Project PUMA
 

Check it out...
GM+Segway collaboration.

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Color me interested. I'm curious to see how they plan to scale up the Segway's basics to an enclosed vehicle--but put me down as first in line to drive one if it hits the showroom.

Edit: Autoblog has photos: http://www.autoblog.com/photos/gm-se...u-m-a/1475224/

(Full disclosure: I work at a General Motors dealership and am generally already third in line to drive a new car that arrives at the dealership after service and detailing.)

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Interesting... especially if they really can keep the price down.

Not sure how well they're connected to their customer base, though--

"Project P.U.M.A. vehicles will also allow designers ... to focus on the passion and emotion that people express through their vehicles..."

I'm trying to imagine people expressing road rage through this vehicle. (Sorry, but road rage is the first vehicle-related emotion that came to my mind.) :)

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I probably wouldn't get one of these in the near future, as I already have a Segway. Tesla on the other hand has my attention... :D

For vehicles like this to succeed without having insurance through the roof, there needs to be more "car-less pedestrian zones" in urban cities which are basically pedestrian malls that allow Segways or other small personal electric vehicles, along with some kind of public transit (light rail, subway, monorail). Driving these around suburban tracts probably wouldn't be bad, as the 25 mph speed limit in most of their roads would be just fine, but would be brutal on any of the main thoroughfares.

Actually, the best way for Segways or similar vehicles to succeed would be based around using these in collaboration with public transit, much like how you can take a bike onboard many trains. This would greatly expand the serviceable radius around all transit stops without too much extra investment (on high platform lines, all you'd need are train cars without seats) unless the line is already at or over designed capacity.

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This almost certainly varies from state to state, but I know that South Carolina registers low-speed vehicles separately and restricts them to roads with speed limits below X (40, I think). I imagine this would be classified under that, much like the GEM cars I see rolling around USC.

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I saw one of these going up and down the streets of manchester during my lunch break a week or so ago. They look like fun.

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Aside from the Cool Factor, is there any real reason for this vehicle to have 2 wheels? It seems like GM designing this with Segway will really just make it a more expensive vehicle then necessary. wouldn't it be cheaper to produce a more traditional (4 wheel) vehicle with similar range and performance specs?

-James

p.s. Is it just me or do those rear wheels look very familiar?

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All of these electric vehicles are awesome, and I wish I was in a position to try them out. Unfortunately, my commute is about 50 miles each way and 80% of that time is on highways. I need something that will guarantee me 150 miles on a single charge while protecting me from drivers on the Mass Pike.

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If you look at it from the back, it looks like they took two segways, chopped off one wheel from each and bolted them together.

I'm going to guess that it balances because this came from Segway asking "Now what do we do?" However, two wheels is more efficient than four: The iBots most efficient means of locomotion is in balance mode, assuming you keep moving and don't burn power balancing in place. I did notice a small caster wheel, perhaps this deploys at stop lights?

I don't really know, I'm just enjoying the guessing game.

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Now there is a video.

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Are those the same 8" Skyway wheels we received in the KOP a few years back? :-D

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The fronts look like Skyway wheels as well.

And yes, the rears look similar to the Skyway wheels we recieved every year for as long as I can remember (pre Andy Mark).

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The REAL reason I'm selling my Segway ... starting my P.U.M.A. savings account ... :p

While it does look like fun, I see similar obstacles to mainstream acceptance as what the Segway encountered. They still haven't been able (willing?) to lower the price of a Segway after 5+ years ...

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Mass acceptance of any system like this still remains an infastructure problem. When you are done with your 35 mile drive . . where do you plug it in?

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Just my personal opinion, but I really don't like the idea... I love electric vehicles and the idea of the balancing Segway, but not for a vehicle to move people to work and such. I'm sure there is a decent amount of waste energy to keep this thing balanced all the time, which will decrease the distance you can get with one. Why not add a front wheel for steering or just a dummy wheel, that way you don't waste energy keeping it balanced and you can also add more battery packs to increase the distance it can go in one charge.

This is in no way a slap to the face to Dean Kamen or GM, just that I don't particularly like this design for the reasons mentioned above. Dean Kamen should be inspiring to everyone in the world and he's a brilliant man with many successes. Dean Kamen is my favorite celebrity and GM (Chevy) is my favorite brand of truck.

Other than those problems, I think it's pretty neat.

Maybe I just don't understand the purpose of this? And yes... I know it has front wheels, but they aren't supposed to touch the ground.