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EHaskins 10-04-2009 01:34

Re: Which OS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by squirrel (Post 848428)
Eric, what necessary things can you do with Vista (or 7) that you can't do with XP?

That's the question that drives my upgrade schedule....which is why I din't start using XP until about a year and a half ago!

It depends on your definition of necessary.

Here is my quick list...
  • My #1, the x64 version is actually good. (XP x64 isn't) If you have >4gb of RAM this is enough of a reason to use Vista/7.
  • Find drivers using Windows Update actually works!
  • I prefer the user directory structure over XPs.
  • In general Vista, and 7, have significant security and reliability improvements over XP. I know Vista has a bad rep, but in my experience, and most people I know who have used it, Vista is more stable than XP.
  • There are a huge number of improvements in the business network administration, but I won't go into detail since most people will never be aware of these improvements.
  • While not necessary, I find the search features built into Vista increase my productivity.
  • It's kind of a niche thing, but the tablet PC and touch screen support is must better than XP.
  • IIS 7 for testing before deploying web sites/apps.
  • Security enhancements in remote desktop.
  • In my experience Workgroup networking is faster, easier, more stable, and more reliable.
  • Windows Media Center is great when using a machine as media device.
  • 7 has improved integration of biometric security devices.

EHaskins 10-04-2009 01:50

Re: Which OS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carpenma (Post 848435)
I am to well adapted to the Microsoft world, I ran Ubuntu as a secondary on my laptop a while ago and it was nice but I couldn't survive with any linux distro as my permanent OS.

On another note. Anyone know how many cpu cores different OS's support?

I had a similar experience.


About CPU support. Vista will support 2 physical CPUs (sockets) w/ up to 32 cores each. Ubuntu supports at least that many, but I couldn't find it documented anywhere.

MrForbes 10-04-2009 01:52

Re: Which OS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EHaskins (Post 848445)
It depends on your definition of necessary.

Here is my quick list...

Thanks! nothing in your list is stuff I need (or want), so I guess I'm fine with XP.

ymmv :)

carpenma 10-04-2009 03:12

Re: Which OS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EHaskins (Post 848448)
I had a similar experience.


About CPU support. Vista will support 2 physical CPUs (sockets) w/ up to 32 cores each. Ubuntu supports at least that many, but I couldn't find it documented anywhere.

Sweet, that should do me just fine. Thanks!

lukevanoort 10-04-2009 03:48

Re: Which OS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carpenma (Post 848435)
I am to well adapted to the Microsoft world, I ran Ubuntu as a secondary on my laptop a while ago and it was nice but I couldn't survive with any linux distro as my permanent OS.

I am curious, why can't you survive using Linux alone? Personally, I dual boot Vista and Fedora (+ E17). However, I almost never boot into Fedora because it has issues with my laptop's sound card. Since I listen to a lot of music and watch TV/Movies on my laptop, that is a bit of a deal killer to me (prefer linux for non-audio general use though - report writing, coding, browsing, etc.). So, anyway, what was your problem with Linux: difficulty adapting, hardware issues (like me), software availability, or something else?

Schnabel 10-04-2009 10:12

Re: Which OS?
 
Go to your local Best Buy and you will find in the software section that they probably have a few copies left of win xp both fresh install and upgrade. That's where I got it for bootcamp.

MrForbes 10-04-2009 10:24

Re: Which OS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lukevanoort (Post 848471)
I am curious, why can't you survive using Linux alone?

One of my sons really wants to use only Linux, but he ends up using Windows for some stuff. Inventor is happier running on Windows, and our networked laser printer (at home) was quite a challenge for him, it took him over a year to be able to get the driver and get it working.

It seems to take some real dedication to use only Linux, I applaud those who are able to do it!

ScottOliveira 10-04-2009 10:44

Re: Which OS?
 
Just my 2 cents quick.

I use XP Pro on my Desktop, Vista on my Laptop, OS X at the office, and Red Hat for some classes.

My personal favorite has to be XP, I like the simple design and the freedom it gives. Vista has (imo) far too many restrictions, which can always be bypassed, but can be a hassle. While it is true that if you have lots of RAM, Vista handles it nicely, most things don't require that much. XP just feels a lot more user friendly, especially if you have a reasonable amount of experience with computers.

Perhaps you could post specs on what hardware you're putting into the machine, and what you intend to use it for?

carpenma 10-04-2009 19:21

Re: Which OS?
 
I think the biggest problem for me was software availability. If I looked further into it I could probably find ways to do all the same stuff I do on Windows. The specs are:

4GB of DDR2 RAM
500 GB Hard Drive (Windows)
80 GB Hard Drive (Ubuntu)
Intel 9770 Quad Core

If there are any other specs you want I can give them to you.

EHaskins 10-04-2009 20:08

Re: Which OS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carpenma (Post 848757)
I think the biggest problem for me was software availability. If I looked further into it I could probably find ways to do all the same stuff I do on Windows. The specs are:

4GB of DDR2 RAM
500 GB Hard Drive (Windows)
80 GB Hard Drive (Ubuntu)
Intel 9770 Quad Core

If there are any other specs you want I can give them to you.

Why not buy a larger drive, and just partition space for Ubuntu?

maxoc 11-04-2009 05:35

Re: Which OS?
 
7077 build of win7.

its got 4 7's in the name, how can it run badly?

or win7 RC1
although id have a unix distro of some sort on it as well.

Nate Smith 11-04-2009 06:49

Re: Which OS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EHaskins (Post 848416)
Vista, x64 if >4gb of RAM.
You can install the Windows 7 Beta, then install the RTM version when released, but AFAIK MS hasn't officially stated they will support this, yet. I can't say I recommend doing this, but 7 beta does seem very stable. I know many people who have already made the switch.

The official stance of MS has always been that they do not support upgrading from a beta version to the RTM release, or even from one beta to the next. Basically, they are concerned with fragments of previous versions being left behind that cause problems with the overall performance of the system. However, I was able to find this link that describes a workaround to get the Win7 installer to allow a beta to RC or RTM upgrade to take place.

artdutra04 11-04-2009 07:00

Re: Which OS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carpenma (Post 848757)
I think the biggest problem for me was software availability. If I looked further into it I could probably find ways to do all the same stuff I do on Windows. The specs are:

4GB of DDR2 RAM
500 GB Hard Drive (Windows)
80 GB Hard Drive (Ubuntu)
Intel 9770 Quad Core

If there are any other specs you want I can give them to you.

Use Ubuntu only for a while. Wait until Microsoft announces a deal where if you buy Windows Vista you'll get a free upgrade to Windows 7 (probably for a few months before Win7 is released). Upgrade to Windows 7.

Once you use Windows 7, you will never want (or have a need) to use XP again.

MrForbes 11-04-2009 09:37

Re: Which OS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by artdutra04 (Post 848917)
Once you use Windows 7, you will never want (or have a need) to use XP again.

I tried the 7 Beta, and it made me appreciate XP even more....

I guess OS selection is a very subjective thing!

DonRotolo 11-04-2009 13:41

Re: Which OS?
 
What, no CP/M?


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