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Wetzel 18-04-2009 15:04

Re: Who do you want to see at IRI this year?
 
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Chris is me 19-04-2009 10:10

Re: Who do you want to see at IRI this year?
 
You mean other than my team ?

Kidding! Some of the robots that I want to see there (other than the godly ones like 67 / 217 / 1625 that we all love) would be 2970 and 2826, simply because they're the best of the best of rookie robots (that I know of well enough to comment on).

clueless newbie 19-04-2009 15:33

Re: Who do you want to see at IRI this year?
 
... a grammar teacher!

swamp_child 19-04-2009 17:11

Re: Who do you want to see at IRI this year?
 
1649
If anyone from 1649 reads this, message me and maybe we can work out a car pool/trailer pool deal?

arnaldo 19-04-2009 17:38

Re: Who do you want to see at IRI this year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by swamp_child (Post 851549)
1649
If anyone from 1649 reads this, message me and maybe we can work out a car pool/trailer pool deal?


Cody, I just sent you a PM. I'll bring this up to the team. I'd love to see our team join you guys, but we need to re-group and figure out where we stand on finances after the championship. Let's talk.

Don Wright 19-04-2009 20:07

Re: Who do you want to see at IRI this year?
 
How about using a new qualification match mechanism which I think has been mentioned on CD before. The matches are generated through the day based on the team's record.

All teams play in a first round. Then, it's broken into groups. 1-0-0 teams, 0-1-0 teams, 0-0-1 teams.

Next round of matches is generated from the groups. The 1-0-0 teams play 1-0-0 teams, 0-1-0 teams play 0-1-0 teams, etc...

After that round...the matches are generated again based on win-loss-tie record with the RS as the tiebreaker to get the groups.

This would produce a team ranking at the end of the qualifications where the best teams that have really beat the other best teams are at the top where they deserve to be... I also think it helps group the teams so everyone is playing robots in about equal strength so all matches should be even more exciting...

Oh...I would also like to see more than 7 qualification matches at IRI...

Chris Fultz 19-04-2009 20:09

Re: Who do you want to see at IRI this year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Wright (Post 851644)
Oh...I would also like to see more than 7 qualification matches at IRI...

Guaranteed ....

swamp_child 19-04-2009 21:09

Re: Who do you want to see at IRI this year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Wright (Post 851644)
How about using a new qualification match mechanism which I think has been mentioned on CD before. The matches are generated through the day based on the team's record.

All teams play in a first round. Then, it's broken into groups. 1-0-0 teams, 0-1-0 teams, 0-0-1 teams.

Next round of matches is generated from the groups. The 1-0-0 teams play 1-0-0 teams, 0-1-0 teams play 0-1-0 teams, etc...

After that round...the matches are generated again based on win-loss-tie record with the RS as the tiebreaker to get the groups.

This would produce a team ranking at the end of the qualifications where the best teams that have really beat the other best teams are at the top where they deserve to be... I also think it helps group the teams so everyone is playing robots in about equal strength so all matches should be even more exciting...

Oh...I would also like to see more than 7 qualification matches at IRI...

This system is very complicated but I like it a lot

Aren_Hill 19-04-2009 21:21

Re: Who do you want to see at IRI this year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Wright (Post 851644)
How about using a new qualification match mechanism which I think has been mentioned on CD before. The matches are generated through the day based on the team's record.

All teams play in a first round. Then, it's broken into groups. 1-0-0 teams, 0-1-0 teams, 0-0-1 teams.

Next round of matches is generated from the groups. The 1-0-0 teams play 1-0-0 teams, 0-1-0 teams play 0-1-0 teams, etc...

After that round...the matches are generated again based on win-loss-tie record with the RS as the tiebreaker to get the groups.

This would produce a team ranking at the end of the qualifications where the best teams that have really beat the other best teams are at the top where they deserve to be... I also think it helps group the teams so everyone is playing robots in about equal strength so all matches should be even more exciting...

Oh...I would also like to see more than 7 qualification matches at IRI...

kind of crazy when you face 16, then 469, then 148, then 365, then 2970 at least we had a good last qualifier with 234

jblay 19-04-2009 22:07

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it would be awesome to see the rookie sensation 2753 out there

Magnechu 19-04-2009 22:54

Re: Who do you want to see at IRI this year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Wright (Post 851644)
How about using a new qualification match mechanism which I think has been mentioned on CD before. The matches are generated through the day based on the team's record.

All teams play in a first round. Then, it's broken into groups. 1-0-0 teams, 0-1-0 teams, 0-0-1 teams.

Next round of matches is generated from the groups. The 1-0-0 teams play 1-0-0 teams, 0-1-0 teams play 0-1-0 teams, etc...

After that round...the matches are generated again based on win-loss-tie record with the RS as the tiebreaker to get the groups.

This would produce a team ranking at the end of the qualifications where the best teams that have really beat the other best teams are at the top where they deserve to be... I also think it helps group the teams so everyone is playing robots in about equal strength so all matches should be even more exciting...

Oh...I would also like to see more than 7 qualification matches at IRI...


Not really that hard to do, it's called Swiss pairings. Only problem with swiss rounds at a Robotics competition is that, let's say we start out with 64 teams (for demonstration purposes). Best case scenario you get 4 rounds before you hit a wall (64, 32, 16, 8), then you would need to start pairing up teams that have a loss with teams that don't have a loss and then it gets kind of messy.

I've thought about the idea a bit, not sure how plausible it is for FIRST, but certainly worth someone looking into the idea a bit.

AlexD744 19-04-2009 23:21

Re: Who do you want to see at IRI this year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Wright (Post 851644)
How about using a new qualification match mechanism which I think has been mentioned on CD before. The matches are generated through the day based on the team's record.

All teams play in a first round. Then, it's broken into groups. 1-0-0 teams, 0-1-0 teams, 0-0-1 teams.

Next round of matches is generated from the groups. The 1-0-0 teams play 1-0-0 teams, 0-1-0 teams play 0-1-0 teams, etc...

After that round...the matches are generated again based on win-loss-tie record with the RS as the tiebreaker to get the groups.

This would produce a team ranking at the end of the qualifications where the best teams that have really beat the other best teams are at the top where they deserve to be... I also think it helps group the teams so everyone is playing robots in about equal strength so all matches should be even more exciting...

Oh...I would also like to see more than 7 qualification matches at IRI...

I like it except that in Lunacy it is harder to win with a bad alliance than against a good alliance (if you understand how I worded that). However, there aren't many bad robots at IRI, so that might not be a problem. This happened all day Friday, we lost every match due to hard alliances along with one match against 111 and one match against 67. Anyway, it sounds great for IRI but could still flounder other teams, but flouder them less than the current system.

Nawaid Ladak 19-04-2009 23:47

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I have two west cast teams that i would like to see come to IRI

1318- They did a great job on Galileo this weekend, not to mention winning oregon. and being a semifinalist in Seattle. Their a great robot and a great team,

488- Team X-Bot is one of the most unrecognized teams here, Madison is pretty much the face of the team on CD. I think they deserve a little bit more love after being finalists on Archimedes as the #6 alliance caption (they declined to join the #3 alliance, who they handy defeated in the QF's), they also won the Seattle Regional.

If you haven't seen their robot, it could be a frightful experience if you take your eyes off them for a couple of seconds. you can't really tell how many balls they have in their hopper because it's covered. You can watch them collect balls most of the match.... and next thing you know, they knocked in 18-20 balls into a trailer in less than two seconds.

Im sure both of these teams could come up with something for the talent show too

Quote:

Originally Posted by swamp_child (Post 851684)
This system is very complicated but I like it a lot

The Algorithm that they are speaking of is called Swiss. The system is used for different card tournaments like Magic The Gathering, Pokemon and Yugioh Organized Play. it doesn't use RS as a tiebreaker, but instead it uses your opponents records as tiebreakers (and their opponents, and the opponents there after.)

The only negitive i see with this idea would be that you would have to use a whole new scoring software platform that wouldn't take RS into consideration but instead the Tiebreakers (Levels 1-3) into effect.

(i'd also like to see 945 at IRI, but that's most likely not going to happen.... i know we can put on a funny skit though, since were bananas like that :D )

Personally, i would like to see myself attend IRI for the first time ever. I've always wanted to go but something has always come up. Hopefully this doesn't happen this year.... even if something does, i'll just say i have to go to IRI, and end it right there :)

Andrew Schreiber 20-04-2009 00:31

Re: Who do you want to see at IRI this year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ICanCountTo19 (Post 850185)
Not sure if I'll be there college takes priority...Good luck to all who go. I'm sure it'll be scary as always.

I second this, the downside of school for me is that it starts the week of IRI. So I haven't attended in 2 years and I am sorely missing it. The thing Id like to see most at IRI is me being able to attend. :)

Plus, I don't know if I can go until Kettering without robots...

Nick Orlando 20-04-2009 01:09

Re: Who do you want to see at IRI this year?
 
I would like to see 1114 at IRI this year. Their robot is crazy, I have seen some crappy video of it, but I would definitely like to see it in action in person. Too busy driving in Galileo to make my way over to Archimedes.

I would also like to see a mentor match. There is no better way to explain how slow it is on the regolith, then to let them drive a match themselves. Remember, yelling louder doesn't make the robot any faster.


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