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Andrew Schreiber 23-04-2009 12:35

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Thank you John, the design process is something our students missed out on this year. I am hoping to rectify this mistake over the summer. I am very glad I do not have to start from scratch...

JesseK 23-04-2009 13:01

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Quote:

“At some point in every design process there comes a time when it is necessary to shoot the engineer and just build the thing…”
So who said that?

Andrew Schreiber 23-04-2009 13:24

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Originally Posted by JesseK (Post 854220)
So who said that?

The computer science major who didn't want to be up until 6am the night before ship.

Rick TYler 23-04-2009 13:31

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Originally Posted by JesseK (Post 854220)
So who said that?

A friend who works for a Very Large Aircraft Manufacturer told me this one years ago as, "Eventually you have to shoot the engineers and build the airplane." I imagine that it dates back to the railroad industry in 1830...

Justin Montois 23-04-2009 13:48

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Thanks for posting this John, I wish I could have been there.

AndyB 23-04-2009 14:20

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This is seriously one of the better PP's i've seen in regards to the engineering process. Well done. Had a decent amount of comic relief as well. =)

Loved the quotes:
  • "Steal from the best, invent the rest."
  • "Documentation: Make sure you use the new TPS report cover sheet"
  • "You don’t need to prototype everything, just the things you want to work."
  • "This presentation will DEFINITELY help your performance this weekend… I’ve found that being well rested is important."

DonRotolo 23-04-2009 21:32

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OK, but what is the elevator riddle?

Great presentation, I can tell a lot wasn't visible but audible. Next year, I hope...

Collin Fultz 23-04-2009 21:39

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Originally Posted by Don Rotolo (Post 854401)
OK, but what is the elevator riddle?

Residents of a high rise apartment complex complained their elevators were too slow. The landlord hired three engineering firms to investigate.

Company 1 offered a solution costing millions to speed up the elevator.

Company 2 offered a solution costing slightly less to also speed up the elevator.

Company 3 offered to install mirrors in the elevator, costing much less.

The problem wasn't the speed of the elevators, it was that the residents were bored on the elevator. Mirrors gave them something to do (fix ties, comb hair...)

Sometimes the real problem isn't readily apparent.

Or...something like that.

Nawaid Ladak 23-04-2009 23:02

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Originally Posted by Collin Fultz (Post 854403)
Residents of a high rise apartment complex complained their elevators were too slow. The landlord hired three engineering firms to investigate.

Company 1 offered a solution costing millions to speed up the elevator.

Company 2 offered a solution costing slightly less to also speed up the elevator.

Company 3 offered to install mirrors in the elevator, costing much less.

The problem wasn't the speed of the elevators, it was that the residents were bored on the elevator. Mirrors gave them something to do (fix ties, comb hair...)

Sometimes the real problem isn't readily apparent.

Or...something like that.

That actually very close to what i had written...

i think it was more like

"it's not the complaint that's the problem, it's the people complaining"

Akash Rastogi 23-04-2009 23:47

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A couple of us attended and it was pretty funny and useful.

I'd like to hear a few things or see a powerpoint of 234's design process that was mentioned so often.

Thanks for the great information JVN.

rachakate 24-04-2009 11:54

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John - what type of "rights reserved" would you like on this?

Use for your teams with credit given?

JVN 24-04-2009 12:14

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Originally Posted by rachakate (Post 854557)
John - what type of "rights reserved" would you like on this?

Use for your teams with credit given?

If you want to show me a little love, great.
If not... well, I love you anyways. ;)

I strongly feel that this is powerful material. While it is intuitive for many people, for others it is not. You can apply this stuff in any number of areas, including everyday life. I had a lot of fun giving the presentation, and hopefully had some impact. This is a topic that I hope gets talked about more.

As I said at the beginning, this presentation was more about showing mentors a way to teach this stuff. I want others to spread these same messages I've been pushing on 148. If I've inspired others to give similar presentations, I've accomplished my goal.

-John

Josh Goodman 24-04-2009 23:22

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Thanks again for this great seminar. As always, you kept me laughing and I came out of that room with a ton of great ideas for the team next year. It was awesome to meet you/coach with you and I hope our paths cross again next year! :cool:

Vikesrock 26-04-2009 00:38

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Originally Posted by keehun (Post 855082)
I don't know what his reply would be, but in my opinion, if you don't know and don't get an answer back, credit it as you wanted someone else to credit your work

His reply would probably be exactly what he replied, right below the message you quoted.


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