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DustinWyke 19-04-2009 22:14

Top Scoring Robots?
 
ok so i was wondering if anyone had a list of the top scoring teams as far as scoring averages go. I do believe 973 was up there, but I was just wondering. It would be interesting to see what teams came out on top.

DustinWyke 19-04-2009 22:21

Re: Top Scoring Robots?
 
makes sense. does anyone know what teams had the top scoring average in Galileo?

Karthik 19-04-2009 22:39

Re: Top Scoring Robots?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Lawrence (Post 851740)
In Archimedes, according to our scouting data the top scoring robots were;

1114
1649
1503
1538
2753

Interesting, according to our scouting data the top moon rock scoring robots were:

1114
2753
2056
1538
1649

Regardless, it was bordering on ridiculous that two of the top 5 scoring robots were not drafted until the 12th (2753) and 15th (1649) picks in the draft.

AlexD744 19-04-2009 22:45

Re: Top Scoring Robots?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DustinWyke (Post 851746)
makes sense. does anyone know what teams had the top scoring average in Galileo?

We never made a list after Friday due to a non recoverable ranking (bad alliance pairings), but from what I saw 111 was at the top because they could easily put up 70 points a match, 67 and 71 were close seconds. Not sure for actuality, however, these are my best guesses.

DustinWyke 19-04-2009 23:01

Re: Top Scoring Robots?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Lawrence (Post 851765)
Yes, I was rather confused that I hadn't crossed 2753 off the available list immediately after we picked 1538.

Also, to the data, it is hard to scout this game, it sometimes is hard to get an exact count of balls scored. Everybody will have different, yet similar data.

I agree that it is hard to scout this game.

Jimmy K 19-04-2009 23:40

Re: Top Scoring Robots?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Lawrence (Post 851765)

Quote:
Regardless, it was bordering on ridiculous that two of the top 5 scoring robots were not drafted until the 12th (2753) and 15th (1649) picks in the draft.

Yes, I was rather confused that I hadn't crossed 2753 off the available list immediately after we picked 1538.

Also, to the data, it is hard to scout this game, it sometimes is hard to get an exact count of balls scored. Everybody will have different, yet similar data.

For some reason, neither 2753 nor 1649 were on my list when I went on the field, despite the fact that I knew that both were good robots. Our team (1002) had never been in a position to pick, and we were very unprepared to pick, yet alone go up against the #1 Alliance.

But nonetheless, thanks to 107 and 2415 for putting up a decent fight.

kE7JLM 19-04-2009 23:43

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I was wondering if anyone was considering defense in there scouting and if so, did you use it to pick your alliances?

I know a lot of people think any robot that can simply drive can be defensive but there are more factors than that. Drive train, robot frame, driver's defensive experiences, speed, acceleration, traction control, wheel base, and driving style, to name a few immediate ones. At the AZ regional and Nationals I saw a huge lack interest in defensive robots. This disappointed me because our bot was, for the most part, was defensive and I think we did a good job at it. I want to know what everyone else thought about it and if you saw it same way?

Zyik 19-04-2009 23:49

Re: Top Scoring Robots?
 
If wanted I can post some of the scouting data gathered by 973. We have a purely data oriented scouting system. Any questions about it can be asked in a PM or IM to me. :)

Danny McC 19-04-2009 23:55

Re: Top Scoring Robots?
 
Well we all saw how being the top scoring bots turned out for most of these teams.

Jimmy K 19-04-2009 23:57

Re: Top Scoring Robots?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kE7JLM (Post 851803)
At the AZ regional and Nationals I saw a huge lack interest in defensive robots. This disappointed me because our bot was, for the most part, was defensive and I think we did a good job at it. I want to know what everyone else thought about it and if you saw it same way?

Our team designed a purely defensive/emptycell robot. We laughed when Xbot's team coach showed their team's scouting data which said that our robot scored 1 moon rock in our 3rd match.

My guess is that most alliance captains thought that an offensive bot could easily switch into pure defense/emptycell if needed, while a pure defense/emptycell bot could not score if needed.

DustinWyke 20-04-2009 00:03

Re: Top Scoring Robots?
 
Well, as far as i know we used defense in our scouting choices. Our scouts look at whether the base is narrow or wide but more on just how the team does in the matches and how they play defense. During the elim. alliance selections in Galileo we used that to choose 25 as the 3rd bot. Our scouts told us that they were a good defense bot.


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