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drumfreak 10-06-2009 15:09

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Robot Dance-Off!!!

JM987 10-06-2009 17:52

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you just never know what the game will be:)

Katie_UPS 11-06-2009 14:19

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Hey, I know this is kinda off topic, but for who started this thread, and for all those who are continueing it, it REALLY helps when you are trying to make up a game. (Here in Milwaukee, we have this thing called Milwaukee Mentor Vex Challenge (MMVC). Its part of the Midwest Vex Programs (MVP) and its where the students make a game for the Mentors to play. When we were trying to figure out if our game would be good, we judged according to what you guys said about this years game/criteria for next years' games.) Big Thanks. :)

Katie

Tiffany Bostic 12-06-2009 08:28

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i think next year game should be something off the wall that no one will ever see coming

Robert Cawthon 12-06-2009 10:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Katie_UPS (Post 863179)
Hey, I know this is kinda off topic, but for who started this thread, and for all those who are continueing it, it REALLY helps when you are trying to make up a game. (Here in Milwaukee, we have this thing called Milwaukee Mentor Vex Challenge (MMVC). Its part of the Midwest Vex Programs (MVP) and its where the students make a game for the Mentors to play. When we were trying to figure out if our game would be good, we judged according to what you guys said about this years game/criteria for next years' games.) Big Thanks. :)

Katie

Glad you can make use of it. I started it mainly because I like to see new ideas flowing and keeping people thinking outside of build season. I also like to imagine some of the games that people come up with. Good luck with the Vex games.

ExarKun666 13-06-2009 16:48

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For the FRC game next year, since in Atlanta last year they announced that there was going to be some add-ons like temperature sensors, it should be something where all the robots on one alliance can communicate to each other, since that was an original specification in the control system, and you have to use the camera, and each driver for a team has an individual curtain.

Then you have to use your laptop, connected to the DS, and look through the robot's eyes, and scout out (from the opposite side of the field to tear down your curtain) if done in autonomous you get bonus points of course, and most importantly the curtains would have to be a color the robot can track. Once teleop starts the curtains all are dropped, and then the object is turned into capture the flag, where robots are required to get the opponents curtains (each alliance would have to have a different colored curtain of course). Then robots would have to go and take the opponents curtains to their side, and of course, your alliance could take them back to your own side. Whoever had the most curtains on their side of the field would win.

Side Note: robots would all have to have some kind of tagging thing, like a 'tagging stick', where the robots held it (it wouldn't be long, maybe a 1/2 foot, 6 inches) and if the robot was able to tag the opponent on their side of the field with the stick, some point deduction would be evaluated. So it would require a sense of dodging and tactical driving skill. No human players, other then the drivers of the robots, and the coaches behind the driver would be included. There would also would be a portion of the field called the 'dead zone' where no tagging happens, but your robot couldn't stay their for a long duration without getting a penalty, unless it was deactivated.

~Mike() 13-06-2009 19:13

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I wanna see something totally crazy, I liked the high speed of this years game, and the concept of needing to catch up with your opponent to score, but I feel like FIRST is out of geometric shapes to use, maybe they will turn to a game like the Vex challenge this year, with regular balls and footballs.

gorrilla 13-06-2009 19:19

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I wanna see cylinders....

J93Wagner 14-06-2009 20:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ExarKun666 (Post 863379)
Side Note: robots would all have to have some kind of tagging thing, like a 'tagging stick', where the robots held it (it wouldn't be long, maybe a 1/2 foot, 6 inches) and if the robot was able to tag the opponent on their side of the field with the stick, some point deduction would be evaluated. So it would require a sense of dodging and tactical driving skill. No human players, other then the drivers of the robots, and the coaches behind the driver would be included. There would also would be a portion of the field called the 'dead zone' where no tagging happens, but your robot couldn't stay their for a long duration without getting a penalty, unless it was deactivated.

May I also note that a BIG advantage would be given to those teams with crab or swerve drives.

On the same line, we need a game where nearly all advantages will be stripped except for experience and maybe the drive train. We need something completely crazy with absolutely no prior FIRST connections. Maybe stationary obstacles (Rocks, stairs, no ramps) that need to be driven over to score should be added?

EricH 14-06-2009 22:06

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Originally Posted by J93Wagner (Post 863518)
On the same line, we need a game where nearly all advantages will be stripped except for experience and maybe the drive train. We need something completely crazy with absolutely no prior FIRST connections. Maybe stationary obstacles (Rocks, stairs, no ramps) that need to be driven over to score should be added?

Who said anything about STATIONARY? Make them mobile!

For those of us who were around pre-3v3, stationary is old hat-- the '06 ramps are the closest thing since 3v3 started. I'm talking the 2004, 2003, 2000 games and the like. 2001 and 1999 had mobile places to park for points. The bad news was that in 1999, you also wanted said parking space to be in a given area of the field...

~Mike() 14-06-2009 22:18

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Picture this: The field is divided in two sides one blue and on red. On each side, there is a row of triangular prisms. These are fixed to the floor at their base. There are several free prisms on the field and the game is played by pushing the 'free' prisms towards the fixed ones on the wall, interlocking them. The team with the most interlocked prisms wins.

It's a little too simple, I know, but just throwin around ideas.

EricH 14-06-2009 22:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Mike() (Post 863535)
Picture this: The field is divided in two sides one blue and on red. On each side, there is a row of triangular prisms. These are fixed to the floor at their base. There are several free prisms on the field and the game is played by pushing the 'free' prisms towards the fixed ones on the wall, interlocking them. The team with the most interlocked prisms wins.

It's a little to simple, I know, but just throwin around ideas.

Simple is good...

And this could be a very "interesting" game if done right.

alectronic 14-06-2009 23:04

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I just wanted to let anyone know who is currently proposing ideas that involve the robot relaying video to the DS, or a computer connected to the DS, that it is unlikely this will happen. In order to maintain the speed of the Field Management System, as much of the bandwidth as possible is kept free. 6 robots worth of streaming video is not going to happen. Maybe there is another way to do something similar without the streaming video?

Katie_UPS 15-06-2009 01:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by techalex (Post 863546)
I just wanted to let anyone know who is currently proposing ideas that involve the robot relaying video to the DS, or a computer connected to the DS, that it is unlikely this will happen. In order to maintain the speed of the Field Management System, as much of the bandwidth as possible is kept free. 6 robots worth of streaming video is not going to happen. Maybe there is another way to do something similar without the streaming video?


The problem with that is, not everyteam can afford a laptop to do that. I'm pretty sure our programming lappy has seen dinosaurs, unless we got a new one... and so if that were the only laptop on the team, well... I doubt it could handle video steaming. I'm not saying all we have is a stone-age lappy, but I'm thinking about teams that only have a stone-age lappy. Or no laptop at all.

dbs12693x 15-06-2009 22:27

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How about dodge-ball?


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