Re: Team 71's 2002 robot
 

Is that 45 shooting the ball straight up to themselves at the top of the hopper :ahh:?? To think, that was only 7 years ago and you'd be hard pressed to find a team that did that this year.

I don't have sound on right now, so the game doesn't look too exciting. I'll have to read the rules later. I too wish I was around in 2002!

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It's furn to see all these names I recognize. :D

If I recall correctly the file cards were on short legs that allowed the file cards to pivot back and up when the carrier was moved forward. They were beautifully constructed.

They were having issues with being turned around at West Michigan. It was a purpose built machine, it could only move forward and couldn't really turn, so if you could turn them around they couldn't move the goals into their home zone. They had added file card material to the rear wheels to prevent this at the championship.

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Yeah, that was us. I think that was the lightest conveyor ever... made of nothing!

This was a typical Mark Koors invention. During brainstorming, he said "let's just throw the balls up into the basket with a wheel". The students and other mentors (me included) just said... "yeah, right". After many weeks of tweaking, this ball thrower was very efficient.

I have the dubious honor of being the coach in this match AND the dreadful F-3 match at Boilermaker this year. Maybe I should remind our alliance before each final-finals match "hey... let's try not to score on ourselves."

Andy B.

Re: Team 71's 2002 robot
 

If I remember right, you got points if any of your robot was in either alliance's endzone. So teams could double up their endzone points. I remember seeing a robot at the LA regional that had a 40 foot ARM that would try to reach the other zone across the field at the end of a match.

Our team had to go up against the Bionic Bulldogs (60) that year in the Finals at SVR - the robot that team 60 built would grab two goals in the first few seconds of each match and your only defense against them was to beat them there. One team rebuilt their gearing to try and basically ram 60 as hard as they could in teh first few moments of the match. During the lunch break on Friday at SVR, team 60 did a demo for a news crew where they grabbed both goals, lifted them, and then spun them at about 60 rpm. Quite a sight, however they never spun them during match play.

Re: Team 71's 2002 robot
 

Pardon my vague recollection of 2002 rules (it looks like you lost 31-30), and not to rub it in, but why didn't 519 release the goal and leave the zone to make the last two balls 111 scored a moot point?

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They spun 'em in L.A., at least.

I do know of at least one team that could have beaten them despite losing the race to the goals, though. 330 was capable (tested in a practice match, both agreeing) of shoving 60 under the right conditions, like with 330's 3rd goal grabber close to the floor. (It was a wedge with a hole cut for pipes, and still has the scratches from that practice match.)

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The good 'ol wayback machine came to the rescue again. From the competition manual in terms of scoringZones were numbered 1-5 with 1 and 2 being on the blue side, 3 being neutral, and 4-5 being red.

Yeah, I think the score was 31-30, and like you said, if 519 got out of the zone, we would have only gotten 20 points. Maybe they couldn't release? Maybe they were preventing us from running away with the goal? Who knows...

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I like thinking about previous years games with LARGE objects that we moved around with the robots and had to interacts with the pieces. The giant "puck", the 3 goals in 02, the tetertotter.... things that were easy but not easy to move.

-Mike AA

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Looking back at how those 180lb goals were handled and how some were able to move around with over 400lbs of total weight. All of this powered by drill motors alone or drill motor/FP combinations.

I wonder what we could have done if we had CIM's, Toughboxes or AM shifters?

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Originally Posted by Brian C (Post 854824) Looking back at how those 180lb goals were handled and how some were able to move around with over 400lbs of total weight. All of this powered by drill motors alone or drill motor/FP combinations.

Actually, I believe that was the first year with CIMs, though they had an integrated pinion, instead of the keyed shaft we're familiar with now.

And there were teams out there with an andymark transmission. (One team at least: 45 ;) ), and there were multispeed transmissions of many varieties (in 2002 45 developed what would become the first iteration of what we now know as the andymark transmission).

Re: Team 71's 2002 robot
 

The walkers on 71 were in fact powered by CIMs. It was one heck of a reduction, but unfortunately, I do not remember off the top of my head what it was.

I wish I could provide more detail on how exactly the feet worked. It was a cam that made the feet move back and forth linearly, but due to the direction of the metal on the file cards, it would only grip when moving one direction. Beyond that, I'm the wrong person to ask.

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The ridiculous capabilities of this robot are what push me ever year to try to think of a game winning strategy.The first thing that goes through my mind after seeing the game each year is "WWBD?" with this particular robot usually in mind.

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Thanks for the correction, I completely forgot about the CIM"S that year. We opted to not use them and went with the drill motors and custom made transmission that year. I actually went out to check our team 311's old 2002 machine just to make sure (it's in our shed out back)

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Expect for 1250 :)

And after seeing 71's 2002 robot, I have been hard pressed to find a robot that achieves the game challenge as well as they did back then.

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I think the only other bot I've ever seen that has been about as powerful and decisive has been 1114 in 2008. I'd like to see some of these older scoring pieces brought back, they seem more impressive than the past couple of years somehow. Not the same exact game but similar scoring devices.