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kapolavery 30-04-2009 03:58

Rookie temas and the Charimans
 
Has there ever been a rookie team that won Chairman's award?

IMO, teams that have won it have usually been competing in FRC for awhile, and have established an impressive resume of awards/wins/community outreach, but Im sure my reasoning has some fault.

btw.. why is it called "Chairman's" award?

waialua359 30-04-2009 05:37

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Rookies aren't eligible to win.
Check the awards sections on usfirst.org and it describes in detail what each award entails.

Collin Fultz 30-04-2009 08:05

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It is called the Chairman's Award because it is given by the Chairman of the Board.

Similarly, the Founder's Award is given by the founder, Dean.

Michelle Celio 30-04-2009 10:15

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Originally Posted by waialua359 (Post 856161)
Rookies aren't eligible to win.
Check the awards sections on usfirst.org and it describes in detail what each award entails.

Rookies are not eligible to win because they are able to be awarded the Rookie All Star Award.

rsisk 30-04-2009 10:42

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Part of the reason Rookies are not eligible to win is one aspect of the RCA is demonstrated sustainability of the team. That's tough to demonstrate in your rookie year.

sgreco 30-04-2009 11:36

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Technically 191 did in 1992. I'm not sure, but I think the criteria is different now, and that is now unofficial. (I don't really know about this, so feel free to correct me).

artdutra04 30-04-2009 13:00

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Originally Posted by Sgreco27 (Post 856212)
Technically 191 did in 1992. I'm not sure, but I think the criteria is different now, and that is now unofficial. (I don't really know about this, so feel free to correct me).

That's because everyone competing in 1992 was a rookie team.

kapolavery 30-04-2009 21:18

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Ok that's what I thinking regarding the Rookie All Star award and the Chairman's award.
But when I say rookie, I mean like 2nd year teams, 3rd year teams, teams that aren't technically rookie, but still in a way are..

jblay 30-04-2009 21:21

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well 2344 won the chairmans award in ny this year it being their second year.

EricH 30-04-2009 21:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kapolavery (Post 856345)
Ok that's what I thinking regarding the Rookie All Star award and the Chairman's award.
But when I say rookie, I mean like 2nd year teams, 3rd year teams, teams that aren't technically rookie, but still in a way are..

I think some have. I don't remember who or when (other than in 1993 :)), but I'm 90% sure it's happened somewhere sometime.

As for the "resume of wins/awards/community outreach", that's not necessarily all of it. Wins almost certainly isn't, as it's possible to win the RCA without winning a single career match. (Though that hasn't been done...) Awards, same thing.

The CA (and RCA) are for the team that best exemplifies the spirit of FIRST. Spreading it helps. Teams win for different reasons--could be reaching minorities, inner city, other nations, or just reaching out. You'd have to ask some of the RCA winning teams how they won.

rsisk 30-04-2009 21:41

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Team 2486 The Coconuts won RCA in Arizona this year. Also a second year team.

Vikesrock 30-04-2009 21:55

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1816 won Chairman's in their third year at MN.

waialua359 01-05-2009 03:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kapolavery (Post 856345)
Ok that's what I thinking regarding the Rookie All Star award and the Chairman's award.
But when I say rookie, I mean like 2nd year teams, 3rd year teams, teams that aren't technically rookie, but still in a way are..

Well that was very possible in Hawaii this year, as I believe, everyone else that entered were 2nd year teams (due to NASA grant) and others from outside the state did not submit theirs in Hawaii also. Last year, most teams were rookies and 7 teams from the mainland entered for the CA here in 2008.

Chris is me 01-05-2009 09:23

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It's really uncommon for teams to win Chairman's their second year. Something extraordinary has to happen. I've seen a few quality teams go from RAS to EI to Chairman's, though. (In addition to those teams, that's the route our team's taken)

LLM 01-05-2009 20:07

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1108 won CA in 2004, our 2nd year. Are you looking for CA advice/mentoring, 2445? We'd be happy to share what we've done and presented if you are interested. Let us know. We run a Chairman's Bootcamp in the Fall, and a Chairman's Dress Rehearsal before competition season begins. As much as I know that you would love to make the trips to Kansas for these (yes, the joy of Kansas in February):) I am sure we can do something long distance! Let us know.


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