Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Exactly when AB and CF get around to it on May 12th.
(they're a bit more dependable than Billfred with his caption contest)

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

I hope its in the morning lol.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

It would be really cool if it was 12:01 Indiana time (1 hour!) but somehow I doubt that. I'll be stalking CD to see if we get in, maybe it'll make up for the final I have tomorrow morning if we do.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Everything should be posted before noon on 12 May.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

1507 did this with our drivetrain. We swapped a pair of sprockets out for slightly larger ones (25%) and it really helped.Highly recommended!

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

AHHHHHHH!!!!!! WE MADE IT IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

^_^ ^_^ ^_^

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Okay now what's the fastest way to send money to Indiana? ^_^

Congratulations to all of the great Wisconsin teams who made it in! Let's go!

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Here is what is being sent out to the teams:

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We have invited 82 teams to the 2009 Indiana Robotics Invitational. Below are the teams, in team number order. Please doublecheck the list for your team number. The first 72 teams to complete the registration process and send payment will be accepted. The IRI invitation acceptance form will be avalable online at 11:59pm on May 12. If there are several invitation acceptances completed on the same day, the field may be expanded slightly above 72.

Please mail your check to: **Note this is a different name than 2008**

Indiana Robotics Invitational
Attn: Lloyd Gough
Perry Meridian High School
401 West Meridian School Road
Indianapolis, IN 46217

Checks should made payable to Perry Meridian High School
Credit cards will NOT be accepted

16 Bomb Squad
27 Team RUSH
33 Killer Bees
39 The 39th Aero Squadron
45 TechnoKats
47 Chief Delphi
48 Delphi E.L.I.T.E.
67 Heroes of Tomorrow
68 Truck Town Thunder
70 More Martians
71 Team Hammond
79 Krunch
101 Striker
107 Team R.O.B.O.T.I.C.S
111 Wildstang
116 Epsilon Delta
118 The Robonauts
135 Black Knights
148 Robowranglers
179 Children of the Swamp
217 ThunderChickens
222 Tigertrons
233 The Pink Team
234 Cyber Blue
245 Adambots
254 The Cheesy Poofs
269 CooneyTech Robotics
292 PantherTech
330 Beach Bots
341 Miss Daisy
365 Miracle Workerz/MOE
393 Full Metal Jackets
399 Eagle Robotics
447 Team Roboto
461 Westside Boiler Invasion
469 Las Guerrillas
503 Frog Force
829 The Digital Goats
830 Rat Pack
832 Chimera
868 TechHOUNDS
888 Robotiators
910 The Foley Freeze
973 Greyhound Robotics
980 ThunderBots
1000 Cybearcats
1008 Team Lugnut
1018 RoboDevils
1024 Kil-A-Bytes
1038 Thunderhawks
1108 Panther Robotics
1114 Simbotics
1155 Sciborgs
1327 SBotz
1501 Team THRUST
1503 Spartonics
1507 Warlocks
1529 CyberCards
1538 The Holy Cows
1622 Team Spyder
1625 Winnovation
1646 Boiler Precision Guessworks
1649 EMS
1675 Ultimate Protection Squad
1714 More Robotics
1720 PhyXTGears
1741 Red Alert Robotics
1747 HBR
1760 Robo-Titans
1771 North Gwinnett Robotics
1884 The Griffins
1902 Exploding Bacon
1923 The MidKnight Inventors
2039 Rockford Robotics
2056 OP Robotics
2194 Fondy Fire
2199 Robo-Lions
2753 Team Overdrive
2775 Liberty-DeWALT Robotics
2826 Wave Robotics
2970 eSchool eBots
3119 The Rockets


Please contact us if you have any questions at pc-at-indianaroboticsinvitational.org.


Thank you,
IRI Planning Committee

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

All right, we made it in! I am really looking forward to this since this will be our first time.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

1923 is looking forward to the IRI. I've gone, personally, every year, but this is the first time for the team. Can't wait! :)

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Predictions, go. :P

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Fun,fun and more fun

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

1) 1625 67 217 1714
2) 111 1114 45 1024
3) 234 2753 68 179
4) 148 254 222 233
5) 71 399 2056 503
6) 1771 973 33 1902
7) 118 16 27 2775
8) 1155 2970 365 330


I know I missed some good teams but I did this quick. If I have time I'll do a more in depth predicition.

Winnovation seeds first and selects the clear two best teams in Lunacy, HOT and Thunderchickens. Fellow champion Wildstang moves up to #2 (Chickens were #2 originally) and selects Simboticss and Technokats: a good defense and offense mix. These two alliances go to three matches in every single playoff match, but meet in the finals, with the #2 alliance winning by 20 points in match 3.

:P this is fun

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

What a field.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

I have been waiting for three years for my team to be on this list.:yikes: It should be an awesome experience.:)

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Congratulations to your team, Dwayne. It has been fun but also knuckle-biting, reading your excited and anxious posts. Good luck at IRI!

Jane

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Wow, what an unbelievable list! I'm excited for my first IRI... too bad my team won't be coming with me since we didn't make the cut. :( There's always next year I guess.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Although the information is usually duplicated on the IRI website, a reminder to all invitees to check your spam email filters for IRI communications - our invite email was devoured by my work spam filter. :yikes:

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Thanks! Ive been sitting here in class just waiting for the announcement. Since we were not able to pay for atl in time, we really wanted to compete at IRI to really show what we are made of and show how gracious our team is toward others and more. I gave it all i had in that application and it turned out to be a winner!!

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

The alliance selection is 1-8,1-8 not 1,1 2,2 3,3 4,4 5,5 6,6 7,7 8,8 lol
I mean id absolutely love to be with 217 and 67 but im doubting itll happen

ya never know though...

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Not going to happen but this made me smile just thinking about it. I wanna be along for THAT ride.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

I want to confirm the acceptance form will be available tonight @ 11:59pm, not this afternoon at 11:59am....correct.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Since I don't know enough (yet!) about all 82 teams to make my own prediction I modified this somewhat. I'll have a proper prediction (as well as a scouting book with every team there in it) sometime in a few weeks.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

????

isn't that still morning?

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Although I see a lot of top notch teams in the eliminations, I would find it hard to believe that 910 would not be picked if not one of the alliance captains.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Correct. 11:59 PM on May 12th.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Fearless prediction for IRI: 45-234-1024 will be an elimination alliance.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Ah :P My fault. Will do a revised predictions list(s) later then. Haha, silly me.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

just wondering....can a rookie team participating in the competition also participate in the early career challenge?

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

From the IRI website: Early Career / Pre-Rookie Teams are not part of the 72 Team IRI field of teams.

It seems likely that a rookie team competing in the field of 72 will be excluded from participating in the Early Career Challenge.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Although I'm disapointed we didn't make it, I feel a little better when looking at some of the other teams that were not invited. When you have two teams playing Saturday afternoon at the Championship, the top pick at one of the tougher regionals, and many finalist and semifinalists, not get invited, you know you have a strong field of teams. I'm glad I'm not in the position of choosing which teams to invite.

Anyway, my prediction (or teams I would like to see win) is 111-68-469-910.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

It's this evening because I haven't made the registration page yet. :yikes:

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

LOL you're telling me.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Looks like CA gets a strong presence (8 West Coast teams, 7 of which are CA) this year. A few years ago for dodgeball you guys were complaining that the "West" was all "Midwest". Now, do you still have the Poof balls, so you can really have an East vs. West matchup?:D

This is probably the strongest showing that the West Coast has yet sent to IRI.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

What is the timing of "sent payment". Is it date received, or date postmarked?

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

We are also dissapointed we didn't make the cut after a great performance at North Star, even though it wasn't one of the tougher regionals. Good luck to all the teams! (especially 2970 and 79, great job in MN!)

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

I was pretty shocked at 1816's missing of the cut as well. You guys, along with Krunch and eBots were among the best at Northstar.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

11:59 pm...


Which timezone... ? =p

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

I see you guys making out all these alliance predictions and i find myself wondering why you left team 79 out of the elimination teams. I would find it strange indeed if they weren't chosen at IRI. Team 2970 is really looking forward to IRI. This should be one heck of a competition!!!

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Look at the team list again please. IRI is one place where extremely competent teams get left out. That's the way this field works. Either you fit into a strategy or you don't. There's also plenty of teams who applied and didn't get in when they could be argued to replace some on the list. Its just tough.

By the way, I so wish 968 could've applied and gone :(

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

It's up as of now... so UTC-2? :)

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

I think if you were to put a pin in the map for each of the teams that have been listed, you would allow yourself to see a broader view. If you step back away from the actual robot competition possibilities and look at some of these teams such as the Hall of Fame teams that have been extended invitations, you will see a broader picture still. If you look at some of the mentors that support and have continued to support these teams, you have an increasingly broader picture. I'm sure if you could read the essay submissions, they would offer insight to the growth and development of each of these teams, casting a brighter light and illuminating the solid opportunities that await everyone who participates, who watches, and who learns from the IRI 2009 event.

The event planners go to great lengths to provide a well-rounded event, including the opportunities for the newly forming teams. They also value and support the very real importance of giving back, of charity, of doing what you can to improve circumstances.

Making predictions is a great deal of fun and I'm sure teams are over the moon with that aspect of the IRI event, but there is so much more to this competition. I think it was planned to be that way. I also think it was very very difficult for the selection committee to make the final cuts, leaving teams off. These folks have bigger hearts than most. I think they grow them that way in Indiana.

Just an .02. :)

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Our check is in the mail (next day delivery) and we've formally accepted our invitation!

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Psst... Don't tell anyone, but Devastator, their twin, is coming, or rather, on the list.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Yea yea, I know.. but still....

=/

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Assuming that a team has accepted the invitation on time to be in the first 72 teams completing the process, when would you be notiifed that you are officially on the list?
I saw from the registration info that the acceptance phase ends on May 22nd and that the list is frozen in July, but it does not say when you will be notified of your final status.

I just don't want to tell the kids we are in and then be wrong.

Thanks in advance to anyone answering this question. :)

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Man, I was going to wait until our team meeting tonight to get the information to fill out the acceptance form, but I'm super nervous that by waiting 18 hours all of the spots will be taken :(. What's a troubled IRI rookie to do?

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

The thing that really matters is when your check gets in. Accepting the form right now doesn't get you into the top 72-it's only half the equation.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

ditto

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

to answer a few questions -

1. it is postmark date and time.

2. you cannot do the early career and IRI comp both

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

48 has accepted, and payment is on its way. FedEx Priority Overnight.

Since I was one of the "early adopters", I want to make sure - did anyone who filled out the form after 11:59 receive any email response other than "Thank you for your submission! Please contact us for any questions"?

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

That was the response I received this morning when I submitted at ~4:45AM.

I dropped it regular mail, hope it gets there in time.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Application complete and check sent overnight as of 11:30am. Cant wait!!!!

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

I hate to say it, but previous posts indicate they're going by postmark rather than date of receipt.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Speaking of twins any idea what happened with the Martian Twins?

In the first post quoted 494 applied but not 70 as of May 7th. In the invitation post, 70 is invited but not 494. 70 was the more accomplished twin in terms of FiM points but obviously they have the same robot and both teams were at IRI 08.

I am wondering:
A. Did both teams apply? (seems likely)
B. Is this a trend where IRI is getting more selective and can't take both twin robots of the collaborating teams? (not necessarily a bad thing, as Jane says, IRI covers a broad scope of FIRST)

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

1923 filled out the acceptance form at midnight, and according to UPS our check should be in tomorrow morning at 10:30. :)

As excited as I am for competition, the emotion running through my head is pride. I'm extremely proud of the students on 1923 (as captain, and the one who does all the organizational work, I'm referred to more often as 'team mommy' than a student) for all the hard work they put in this season. I hope the mentors, teachers, and students on all the other invited teams are just as proud to be recognized for their efforts. Y'all did it! Congratulations.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Payment hand delivered first thing this morning ... :D

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Wow so many teams have already sent their payment. I really hope that my administrator can pay in time. I put so much into this not for my team to go.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

I have to say that I am in the same boat as you. This is one of our most successful years of competition in this program. Getting invited to IRI is just the cherry on top, a very big cherry :P Needless to say I am proud of our team's efforts this year and as you mentioned I am sure many others are proud of their respective teams. Ditto on the congrats!

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

It's still worth it for reliability and tracking sake.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

We will post an update of teams that are fully registered on Monday night (18th).

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Team 1094, the River City Robots Channel Cats, and Fish Boy are disappointed about not making the cut this year. We really enjoyed the competition for the last three years. There is always next year.

There are some awsome teams and robots on the list. Good luck to all!

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

832 put in our acceptance at about 1:20am on the 12th and our check is going overnight today. Hopefully it will get there in time:cool:

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Hey, how many teams have put in payment? I really don't want 2970 to be kicked off the list either...

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

As of noon today, we have confirmation and full registration completed for the 56 teams listed below. If you think you are complete, and not listed here, please send an email to: pc@indianaroboticsinvitational.org with details.


1 16 Bomb Squad
2 33 Killer Bees
3 45 TechnoKats
4 47 Chief Delphi
5 48 Delphi E.L.I.T.E.
6 68 Truck Town Thunder
7 70 More Martians
8 71 Team Hammond
9 79 Krunch
10 107 Team R.O.B.O.T.I.C.S
11 148 Robowranglers
12 217 ThunderChickens
13 234 Cyber Blue
14 245 Adambots
15 254 The Cheesy Poofs
16 269 CooneyTech Robotics
17 292 PantherTech
18 341 Miss Daisy
19 365 Miracle Workerz/MOE
20 461 Westside Boiler Invasion
21 469 Las Guerrillas
22 503 Frog Force
23 829 The Digital Goats
24 830 Rat Pack
25 832 Chimera
26 888 Robotiators
27 910 The Foley Freeze
28 980 ThunderBots
29 1000 Cybearcats
30 1008 Team Lugnut
31 1018 RoboDevils
32 1024 Kil-A-Bytes
33 1038 Thunderhawks
34 1108 Panther Robotics
35 1114 Simbotics
36 1501 Team THRUST
37 1503 Spartonics
38 1529 CyberCards
39 1538 The Holy Cows
40 1625 Winnovation
41 1646 Boiler Precision Guessworks
42 1649 EMS
43 1675 Ultimate Protection Squad
44 1714 More Robotics
45 1720 PhyXTGears
46 1741 Red Alert Robotics
47 1747 HBR
48 1760 Robo-Titans
49 1771 North Gwinnett Robotics
50 1902 Exploding Bacon
51 1923 The MidKnight Inventors
52 2056 OP Robotics
53 2194 Fondy Fire
54 2199 Robo-Lions
55 2753 Team Overdrive
56 2970 eSchool eBots

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Thanks Chris! We are really looking forward to playing with the "Big Kids". :)

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

We are also offering the loan of our 2009 twin and full technical support to any pre-rookie team that wants to compete in the early career event.
We will work with the event organizers and follow their lead in selecting a worthy organization. We sincerely hope that organizations take advantage of the nice opportunity that the early career event provides.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Woot! East Coast is SO well repped here. :cool:

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

How long does it take to get from the IRI venue to the Indianapolis airport? Got an, erm, important date early the following day...

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

1884 has made the final decision not to go. We were extremely happy to be accepted, but we did not fully budget for the trip, and with next years funding uncertain, the team decided to roll the money over to next year and plan to raise additional funding from the outset for a second event next year.

That said, I think I will still be there with my wife. :)


Wetzel

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

It's been ~30-45 min for me the last 2 years, depending on traffic.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

there is still a chance for us!!! :) :)

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

New airport terminal open - entrance moved several miles west, PLUS MUCH construction on Indy highways currently. DEFINITELY allow at least 45 minutes travel time from Lawrence North (depending on time of day/traffic).

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Unfortunately, due to unforeseen circumstances team 1155 will not be able to attend.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

When will we get another list of registered teams?

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

I'm getting a little nervous, because none of the world champions are on that list, I hope 111 and 67 still intend to go.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

So as the applications roll in and I suddenly realize I have little better to do with my free time, I'm working on assembling an "IRI Book" of teams chock full of information on them that I've gathered through TBA / FIRST / etc. Here's what I have so far as a sample with my own team's information. Is this a good idea? If I get enough interest, I'll compile it for all 72 teams.

Any suggestions for additional fields of information? If there's enough interest and you've changed something and want it reflected in the book, PM me. (also if stuff like ball capacity isn't easily findable for your team's robot PMing me would be nice, again if there's interest in the thread for this book)

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

In a word, yes. :) Whether you elect to publish the end result or not.

Nice, clean format.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Nice ...

I suggest adding an entry for traction control (Y/N) - maybe to include type?
Also (as part of drivetrain?) steering - tank, crab/swerve, ackerman, etc ...

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

That is awesome. Oh and the Crystal bot is really sweet! I am assuming it is all Polycarb right?

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Yeah, our robot's 100% polycarbonate. We work in a plastics shop so it's just easier that way, and we can laser cut acrylic to use as a template for routing out holes and edges and stuff. And then people think it looks cool ^_^ The only metal is in the gearboxes, motors, shafts, and some chain on the front wheels.

Oh, do you have a picture of your modified robot? I couldn't find any of how it looked in Atlanta.

I could get a traction control field (but then i'd highlight our team's complete lack of it :P ).

The second part will be part of drivetrain. "Drive" is supposed to be "Tank" in this picture. I should probably put "4 [8] wheel tank" for teams that double up on wheels too I guess, but I never found that mattered and it's a lot harder to count from some pictures so I might skip out on that.

So if anyone has any robot pics or information, please PM me so I can save time manually counting Orbit ball fire rates in videos. Stuff like ball capacity / traction control that's hard to find out from a pic would help too, as would pics if you've made mods since the last CD / TBA pic you've posted.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

When is the cut off date for registration? I tried to find it, but didn't. :confused:

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

What if you added a field about the drive team. Experienced vs new drivers?

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

The first 72 teams to accept their invitation and mail a check are in.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Is RAWC and Poofs both attending this year?

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

You could just put a picture of the 67 HOTBOT and call it good ^.^

BUZZ XIV

This is a picture of our team giving the killer bees the most improved peer award in Atlanta, so far as going out of our division to do so :D. I must say their robot 1 ups ours with industrial conveyor belting and crab drive.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

I've been told RAWC is not attending. :(

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Something I'll need from all teams going to IRI that want good information in the IRI Book is their ball capacity, if they have traction control or not, and if you plan to have an autoloading autonomous (driving up to your HP and receiving moon rocks somehow). The rest of the stuff on the sheet I can get from TBA and your robot picture. It would be easier if you got this information to me but it's not a big deal. Some teams that have robot profiles on their website or list info with their pic on CD Media I've managed to find ball capacity information for.

Man, this kind of stuff I find really fun for some reason. I'm glad you guys liked the data sheet, it gives me an excuse to learn about every robot at IRI :D

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

They did not apply.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Aaron....we're registered already..... money in and everything....

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

We will post another update late Tuesday (26th), after the holiday weekend.

Several more teams are now confirmed.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

I'm sorry, but the e-mail address we gave doesn't seem to be receiving the invoices from the application process. Is there any way that we could get direct confirmation of the payment/acceptance for team 2970? Thank you.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

*sigh* 2081 can't wait to be watching the webcast

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

what's your definition of late? :)

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

It's only 2230, give them some time to let it get really late.

Wetzel

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Probably Thursday, due to travel :)

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

As of Tuesday, 26 May, add these to the list -

57 - 116
58 - 135
59 - 222
60 - 330
61 - 868
62 - 67
63 - 111

closing in on 72.
2 teams frrm the invite list have declined.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

this list is so exciting i cant wait for us and 111 to have an epic battle again.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

Woot, we might get a chance to play the world champs 111 and 67. As if I needed another reason to get excited.

After watching a few dozen matches from regionals all around, I've worked up a really cool new strategy for our robot and team at IRI, taking advantage of some capabilities we never used on our robot while making ourselves less vulnerable to common defensive and offensive tactics other teams use.

I'm slowly but surely working on the IRI book. I have most of the data for about 10 teams right now, and I'll pick up the pace when I finish my last class. Should be done sometime in June so there's time for you to tell me I guessed your ball capacity wrong.

Re: 2009 IRI- Who has applied?
 

this will be a great event, 67 and 111 might not even be togeather which would make for some great matches. My favorites here are 33, 67, 71, 111, 148, 254, 330, 469, 503, 1024, 1902, 2753 and of course 68! hopefully the event will be on web cast, because i don't think i'll be able to go