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Collin Fultz 11-05-2009 13:26

Re: Offseason Rule Change Recommendations?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson (Post 858611)
Gracious Professionalism is a compass, not a set of calipers. It should be used to guide what you do rather than to measure it.

Spotlight. Rep. Awesome quote Alan.

dlavery 11-05-2009 16:59

Re: Offseason Rule Change Recommendations?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson (Post 858611)
Gracious Professionalism is a compass, not a set of calipers. It should be used to guide what you do rather than to measure it.

Undoubtedly one of the best characterizations of "gracious professionalism" that I have yet seen. I want this on a t-shirt.

-dave



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thefro526 11-05-2009 18:09

Re: Offseason Rule Change Recommendations?
 
For all of the people complaining about the serpentine, I'd LOVE to see a reverse serpentine. Give the #8 Seed the First and Last Pick, and the #1 Seed the Eighth and Ninth Pick. I'd Much rather have the double pick than the first pick.

Also, another thing I want to see, is the ability to start a robot backwards in a spot (Robot Touching the AirLock). In week 5 I had my prog make a program to start like that just for the sheer awesome of it, and it was well, awesome. Nothing get's people's attention like a robot going backwards and then doing a 180 and driving forward.

Finally, I think we should be able to re-load the Outpost HP. This is just one of those things that always bugged me.

JackN 11-05-2009 19:36

Re: Offseason Rule Change Recommendations?
 
Seeing all of these posts saying that 1-8, 1-8 does not even out the playing field, look at the winners of IRI the past 3 years (I picked IRI because it was the first event off of the top of my head I could think of that had non-serpentine draft in serpentine years). In 2006, the finals were the #5 seed (71, 1625 and 910) defeating the #6 seed (233, 217, and 1272). In 2007, you have the #4 seed (111, 1114, 2056, and 494) defeating the #2 seed (47, 33, 68, and 93). Last season was #2 (330, 67, 987, and 68) defeating the #5 seed (1024, 1625, 1126, and 1731). Since the move into the 1-8, 1-8 draft format we have seen the #1 seed lose in the semi-finals every year. We haven't had a number one alliance win since 04 I believe (Andy or Chris could correct me).

I have no huge offseason rule changes, I would like to see the amount of carpet around the edges increase by a couple inches to lessen pinning. I also would like to see the empty cells a different color or maybe remove their nylon covers. I am mildly color blind and have had a very difficult time this season picking them out of piles of moonrocks (it took me more than a second to do, but it was possible). If they are more visible and different it will be much easier for referees to spot if a team has two in their possesion. One major rule change, how about scoring a empty cell in a trailer is worth 4 points instead of 2 points. This would add a twist and would add to teams scoring.

Magnechu 11-05-2009 20:54

Re: Offseason Rule Change Recommendations?
 
I think IRI is a bad example of showing that 1-8 1-8 is superioer to serpentine. IRI has 72 of the best teams in the nation. Every single other event, even the Championship, if the #1 team picks twice in a row, they will face far weaker alliances from say, #4 and down. #2 and #3 will have solid alliances that could give #1 a run for its money, but they will win the majority of the time. At Regionals? Forget about it. The #1 seed will win 75% of the events, if not more.

FRC4ME 11-05-2009 22:07

Re: Offseason Rule Change Recommendations?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thefro526 (Post 858686)
For all of the people complaining about the serpentine, I'd LOVE to see a reverse serpentine. Give the #8 Seed the First and Last Pick, and the #1 Seed the Eighth and Ninth Pick. I'd Much rather have the double pick than the first pick.

You're forgetting about the ability of the #1 seed to pick others from the top eight; that alone is quite a reward. I rarely see a regional where the #1 or #2 alliance doesn't end up choosing someone further down the line.

The one-decline rule gives the #1 seed yet another reward; the ability to break up an alliance between the #2 seed and another top eight team. Overall, I think the #1 seed gets enough advantages as is.

railerobotics 12-05-2009 10:22

Re: Offseason Rule Change Recommendations?
 
Make sure the head ref has read all of rule updates.

Stu Bloom 12-05-2009 11:59

Re: Offseason Rule Change Recommendations?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by railerobotics (Post 858847)
Make sure the head ref has read all of rule updates.

Well I have IRI covered ... :ahh:

Lemonyfresh 12-05-2009 15:02

Re: Offseason Rule Change Recommendations?
 
A bunch of the seniors had the idea that it the game would be much better if there were only four teams on the field.


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