Re: All the FRC Teams That Ever Were
 

I wonder if 139 and 159 are related. They look like they're from the same high school

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On closer look they are from different high schools, but the same school district.
It doesn't look like one school joined the other in 1999 either.

• 139 Front Range Community College & Poudre School District/Fort Collins High School Fort Collins, CO
• 159 Symbios/Colorado State University & Poudre High School Fort Collins, CO

The FRC database entry for them was incorrect.
I'll fix that. (Well, maybe not the FIRST database, but this spreadsheet at least...)

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I don't mean to add on to other corrections, but it shows a 1996 team from Flanders NJ who I don't think is us. Then shows another Flanders NJ team in 97 that is us. Wonder who team 153 is.

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Should have been Bridgewater, NJ.
I'll fix that.

Team Number: 153
Team Name: Ortho-McNeil Pharmaceutical & Somerset County Vocational & Technical Schools
Location: Bridgewater, NJ, US
Team Motto: TEARIN' IT UP & BURNIN' IT DOWN
Robot Name: Smokey
Rookie Year: 1997
Awards Won:
2000 NJ Best Offensive Round
1999 NJ Outstanding Defense
1999 NJ #1 Seed
Events Attended:
2001 National Championship
2001 J&J Mid-Atlantic Regional
2000 N1
2000 NJ
1999 N1
1999 NJ
1998 NJ
1997 NJ
Willing to Mentor: No
Willing to be mentee: No
Website: http://web.archive.org/web/200108060...153/index.html

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How hard was that??
I noticed that team 33 was down as DaimlerChrysler & Avondale High School & Notre Dame Preparatory. We've changed since then as there is no longer a Daimler Chrysler. It should be The Chrysler Foundation & Notre Dame Preparatory. Thanks and amazing work!! :]

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Team 408 was 132 before 2000. The sponsor "borrowed" the number and paired with Northeast HS at that time.

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153 was known as the Wombats for at least one of their years in FIRST; they were our "twin" team for a while when both 341 and 153 were sponsored by Ortho-McNeil Pharmaceutical. In fact, in 2002 when we were voting on team names, we very nearly selected the Wombats instead of Miss Daisy.

Every year at our off-season event, Ramp Riot, we reserve a spot for pre-rookies to compete with our practice robot; we use number 153 for this entry in honor of our old mentors. In years past, teams like 1712 and 2234 have competed as team 153.

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A small correction. Team 153 was never known as the Wombats during a regular FRC season. Their robot name each year was "Smokey". Also team 153 was our "sister" team, not really a "twin" in the modern FRC understanding of the word. We would sometimes swap mentors around, but we always built independently from each other. 153 did most of their building out of a wonderful company called Universal Machine and we built at the local O-M facility in Springhouse, PA.

153 had some great kids, great machines and great mentors. We still miss them.

Re: All the FRC Teams That Ever Were
 

I just did a filter on *NASA* and got a count of 868 teams.
That's about a third of all FRC teams ever.

One of the advantages of using original team names.


Sponsor "owned" team numbers make it difficult to consistently track teams through the years, especially when primary sponsors themselves change names, e.g., NYNEX= Bell Atlantic.
Team 19 is an odd example of a team being associated with a sponsor not a school. In the FRC Team Database Team 19, Greenwich, CT, gets credit for a rookie year of 1994, although the school didn't actually have a team until 1998, and the sponsor, NYNEX, didn't have a team any closer than 70 miles.

Some schools do change names as well, but it's rare. Teams more often combine multiple schools or split off schools to form their own teams.

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If it helps, team #1535 is a split from #1596. In 2007, when #1596 grew and split, it was an international team (half American, half Canadian), and the team split along the border. Since the team was registered in the US as a Michigan team (no way to register it as an international team), the American half kept the #1596 designation. Team 1535 (the Canadian half), was given an option to fish for dead numbers and picked 1535 so they could belong in the same rookie year grouping. We still post our winnings from our rookie and second year ('05 & '06), and still cheer on the Instigators whenever we can (harder to do this year with MI closed to us Cannucks).

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Thanks for those details.
That's just the kind of information I'm looking to collect.
I remember when you guys were the only true international team :)

I'm sure there are more team splits & mergers out there we don't know about...

I'm continuing to find relationships and have been updating the original spreadsheet each day. At the rate I can dedicate to reviewing it it'll be another several weeks before I finish going through it.
Everyone's additions and corrections have been extremely helpful and I thank you for them. The longer range intent is to wrap these team relationships back into our FRC team database to make it searchable, and we anticipate that'll be done over the summer. We're also waiting for the FIRST database to be updated with 2009 awards data so that can be added as well.

We have a web page now dedicated to this kind of stuff at : http://www.team358.org/files/frc_records/index.php
That page has links to original prime data sources found via the Wayback Machine and on Chief Delphi threads.

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I thought these details from the 2010 Registration thread deserved to be here in this thread.

Anyone have any interesting tidbits about past teams or teams that have been reincarnated under other numbers?

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Everyone knows about:

51 - merger of 47 & 65
78 - from students & mentors of 121 (rights to 121 are retained by the school, but participation by 121 in 2010 is in question.)

Several other schools played before under other numbers.

• 3146: was part of a 1997 pre-number team (I call it A197) (13 years ago)
• 3135: was 1055 (6 years ago)
• 3148 is at a school that was once part of teams 125 & 246
• 3171 was 1019 (3 years ago)
• 3200 was once both teams 1190 & 1338 (last participated 6 years ago)
• 3165 was once both teams 452 & 1433 (6 years ago)
• 3235 was 2431 last season

Other musings:

• 3143 appears to be a sibling team of 1334 out of the same school
• 2167 has generated several sister teams: 2003, 2006, 2020
• 1754 appears to have just changed it's number from 1779
• 2741 looks like it has split into 2704 (now associated with a school, but still with their old sponsor), and 2949 (still independent)
• 3161 is a sibling team of 1334
• 3262 appears to have been 1008 last year, but joined with another high school this year

Also, I missed team 2902's second reincarnation as team 1210, but Richard pointed that out

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This isn't from this year, but the two schools originally part of team 6 are back and playing under new numbers.

Hopkins High School is team 2239
Washburn High School is team 2549

I've heard rumors that the school that was originally team 10 may be coming back this year, but I don't see them registered yet so I'm not sure if they're actually coming back or not.

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I am not sure if you want to make such changes but Team 223-Xtreme Heat has changed sponsors and locations. (A couple of times)

Your database states-

Johnson & Johnson/Rutger's University/Raytheon/State Electric/Turner Construction & New Brunswick High School

While-

After New Brunswick High School Team 223 moved to Middlesex County VoTech in Piscataway, (Central NJ)

and is now located at Lakeland Regional High School in Wanaque, NJ. (Northern NJ)

Our major sponsors are currently Johnson & Johnson, State Electric, Turner Pharmaceutical, and Anadigics. (But might soon change again)

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Is that Benilde St Margaret's?