All the FRC Teams That Ever Were
 

Here's one of those side projects that occasionally crop up when I should be doing spring cleaning around the house.

I extracted as complete a list as I could from our various spreadsheets and databases of all the FRC teams that have existed.
http://www.team358.org/files/frc_rec...Teams_Ever.xls

The list still needs vetting so I imagine it'll change a bit, especially if some of you old veterans feed comments back to me. I don't expect I'll hear much, especially in the off-season, but every insight is appreciated.

This spreadsheet has three tabs:

• Unnumbered Teams are those early teams who couldn't be associated with a later numbered team
• Numbered teams are just everybody from 1998 on
• All FRC Teams Ever is a combined list

The combined list has an additional column where I need the most help.
It relates current teams with other numbers they have had in the past, teams they have split off from/to, or combined with, what have you.

Raw numbers are 2623 teams, but 50 to 100 of these might be essentially multiple numbers that represent a single team.

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One omission I noticed: 803 out of South Carolina. (But man, I didn't realize how many teams used to exist around here!)

Also, some notes on the all-ever sheet: 91 (who I'd never heard of) would eventually lead to 507 (Carolina Academy) and 281 (JL Mann). 392 (Clover HS) would eventually field 1539.

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Awesome.

862 used to be 465 before the 2002 season.

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Team 279 is now officially out of Toledo, Ohio and I think its Dana Holding Corporation now. excellent work though =)

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This is an in depth chart! Good job :cool: ! However, one flaw I noticed is that you list as 1351 Archbishop Mitty High School and Gunn High School. It is just Mitty and Meadows Manufacturing.

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I'm 90% sure that 330, Hope Chapel Academy, was also on 164, at least for the 1997 season. Also, the team designated as A1 would probably be 164 in that year. (Not sure if that was their number, though... I'll let one of the people that was actually on the team around that time answer that one. Unless 164 was formed the same year as 82/330 from the other teams that had been on that alliance of schools...)

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226 is Troy High School AND Troy Athens High School.

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Awesome list!

Just one thing, Team 340 is sponsored by Bausch & Lomb Incorporated. Nortel Networks is a little outdated.

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Team 2374 is only sponsored by Jesuit High School now,

School policy :(

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Team 166 is no longer sponsored by Texas Instruments/RS Machines and is now (and has been) sponsored by BAE Systems.

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I believe the Thunderchickens, 217, are out of Sterling Heights, Michigan.

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One thing I actually noticed was the 1455 and 487 were the past numbers of the team that combined to make team 423... I'm not sure how the "past team numbers" column in this actually works, but just in case those 2 teams don't actually exist anymore since they combined into 1 team a few years back

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Team 488 was founded at Redmond High School and sponsored by Microsoft, but after the first year the team moved (with their number) to Franklin High in Seattle, where it is still registered. Exothermic Robotics is now the resident robot team for Redmond High, but competes in VRC and FTC instead of FRC. The Microsoft sponsorship moved to Franklin, and is no longer available to Redmond High (we asked).

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The team numbers are the teams that are related to a given team. So if 1455 and 487 are listed next to 423, it means that they are somehow related. Either they're "parent" teams, or they're "child" teams. See 64/39. (Also, for Mark, 1013 spun off of 64 at the same time 39 did, and 64 no longer exists as one team.)

This sheet is all the teams that have ever existed in FRC, regardless of current status, so any combined teams or split teams will be listed as individual teams and together.

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Nice list! Our NUWC sponsor (lead mentor) is now with 2348, another Hawaii team.

Thanks Mark!

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Hmm either I phrased that weird or I didn't understand your post properly
I meant that 1455 and 487 are past team numbers of 423, but are not listed as such. I meant that I wasn't sure if they would be lisited as past numbers since the 2 teams combined to make 423.

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Think it was the phrasing... Mark, I'm looking forward to revision 1.

22 and 4 have the same situation, and are linked in the sheet.

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1 minor change... 38 was from woodbury ct =D

and 2836 was team 38... just 2 years removed...

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Thank you for sharing this, I think it is really interesting to read through.

A thought on:

I think that the column on linked teams is what many will be most interested to see and I think that differentiating between teams "split into" or "old team" would be a great place to start. It may cause a lot of confusion to do otherwise (I do realize this is a work in progress, just sharing my thoughts). For example, I wouldn't say that team 4 was ever team 22's past team number. As Eric pointed out 22 is the "parent" and a way to distinguish parent-child / former team # would be a great revision.

Something else I would like to suggest is a way to make it so you know which team numbers were reassigned. i.e. Team 4 was assigned the number in 2006, and something some people aware of this might want to know is whether or not there was a team with that number before(Sorry for using team 4 as a constant example but its the only one I'm completely knowledgeable about)?

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Mark, I love this type of information that you put together, it has influenced me to do a lot of different things in the past few months. Thank you.

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Team 1714's name is a little out of date; we're no longer sponsored by NASA nor Team 1675.

(and it would be so fun to say "We're sponsored by UPS" :( )

Our current name should read: Quad Tech / Rockwell Automation / Siemens / Ladish Co. / Milwaukee SPE / Marquette University / American Nuclear Society RRSD / MSOE / GE Volunteers / ABB / American Acrylics USA LLC & Thomas More High School

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341 no longer has any association with Ortho-McNeil Pharmaceutical (and we haven't for several years).

Thanks for the list!

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nice!! although, our team is now based out of DePere High school, WI and all of our sponsors have changed to

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It appears that several team names were gleaned from older versions of FIRST data, and sponsorships and/or HS names have changed.

ThunderChickens are indeed usually listed as being from Utica, as that is the school system. However their physical address may be Sterling Hts.

Team 264 would have been from Shelby Twp, not Shelby (two different communities in MI).

Mark, do you want information on the missing numbers? For instance, 2331 was the original number assigned to 1025 before it was determined that 1025 was not a rookie.

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A1 in '97 became 82 and 164 in '98. 82 became 330 in '99, and 164 became 207 and 294 in '99.

I believe the team right below A1 became 100.

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Thanks for the inputs!
Some of what you've mentioned has jogged my memory about other similar circumstances, so I've gone back looking for those missing links too.

I'm adding in the team relationships you've all provided. I'll keep updating the file linked to in the original post and add a revision number to the Notes. I'll post an update this evening if you want to grab a new version tomorrow.

Some of you have noted that your team name, sponsor, school, etc. are incorrect. What I did was pull the name of your team as it was first incorporated (or the earliest data I could find), not what it may be today. Teams know where they are today, but may not know where they came from.:) Some of you will be surprised to learn of other schools that started along with your team. That may also be why the location is different than today's. Some Team Leaders obviously entered the information incorrectly in TIMS (a couple of teams had full mailing addresses in there :ahh: ).
I do want to hear about school changes though.

I will expand the list of original un-numbered teams because they aren't all here. I was doing something else and started removing them if they could be associated with a later school, but I should have left them all alone and give them A1 kind of designations.

• I have a separate spreadsheet that contains rosters for every year and you can track team sponsors and school changes over the years there. Every un-numbered team and numbered team is listed.
• I have yet another spreadsheet that tracks the teams through the years, from un-numbered in 1992 to temporary numbers in 1997 and permanent ones starting in 1998.

If anyone wants to see those let me know and I'll link them. I don't want to overload people though. We actually have a webpage dedicated to this stuff, but all the spreadsheets are changing.

Our webmaster is designing an updated database structure to let us add more of this information to make it searchable. That's a summer project.

Nica:

I'll think of a way to reflect team relationships in that extra column. Maybe color coded - 1)parent, 2)child, 3)same team/new number.

FYI, No team number has ever been reassigned. Numbers have followed schools or primary sponsors.

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Oh, I was actually wondering about cases in which newer teams were assigned low numbers. Like my example from my previous post: HTHLA got the team number 4 in 2006, was there another team with that number before that just retired or was it just a dead number? (I hope I'm making sense?)

I know that I've read of a few more of these cases of teams splitting and "child" teams getting lownumber yyy in opposed to getting rookie number xxxx. I can't really name any at the top of my head at the current moment though.

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You sure about that, Mark? I seem to remember a member of one team saying on CD that they'd gotten the number of another team (reassigned) after that team folded. I don't think they shared the same school or the same sponsor.

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These teams have all received earlier numbers than their starting year would warrant. None of these numbers had an earlier team associated with them. They are all "holes" in the team number assignments, or "dead numbers" as you call them. Back in 1997 it looks like FIRST allocated the numbers based on who they expected would play that year, but for whatever reason those teams never showed up. Since 1998 when the age of permanent team numbers began, no one else has ever competed as team number 4.
Now in 1997 permanent team #6 (Washburn High School, Hopkins, MN) used the temporary number 4, but I wasn't counting that. That only confuses things. ;)

2006: 4,39,423,744,1013
2007: 424,425,1535,1711,1728
2008: 509,1025,1988
2009: 216,1729



As far as I can tell from database searches and perusing old competition lists. I started checking for that in 2005, because one of my students was first developing our database on all the teams back then. He was concerned about how to handle duplicate team numbers, but that problem has never actually materialized.

P.S. That could have been a post talking about old temporary team numbers, so the folks from 1996 and 1997 may be saying they used to have such-and-such a number. I treat those like the temporary number you hang on your chest for running the marathon.

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I'm impressed by this list. I've always wanted to do something like this, but I don't think I know the appropriate resources (nor would it be the best use of my time at this point in my life). This is really interesting, thanks for putting it together.

As others have mentioned, some of the team information is outdated- 1124 is sponsored by UTC Fire & Security and Avon High School (as opposed to cheetahlearning.com). Still, I'm incredibly impressed by the list, and will probably spend a great deal of time looking at it once finals have passed. I just learned that there was a team founded in 1997 in my hometown, which outdates the current team whose rookie year was in 2003. I don't know if anyone connected to the current team had any idea that another school in our town ever had a team. This is fascinating. Thank you so much for your work on this resource.

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Team 578 is now sponsored by The Gleason Works, not Eastman Kodak. I also think that our team was number 36 in our rookie year, and then 52 in '98 and '99.

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93 was 107 before they went to the permanent team #'s

and 857 was 221 but switched #'s when Anthony Lapp graduated from Mich. Tech.

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84, 222, and 284 were originally part of the same team, The Littles, from 7 (:ahh: ) small school districts in the northern tier of PA. I don't remember their number, but their only competition was Toroid Terror (Check spelliing!) in NJ.

84 broke away first to become SWATT, then WATTNESS, finally settling on Chuck 84.

222 broke away next, becoming The Tigertrons.

284 was the final core of the original and is based at Elk Lake High School.

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Mark for official FIRST historian!
You are amazing. Make sure this gets sent to HQ.
There used to be another Team 7 (they won CA in the early years) but don't know if they are now another team.

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tisk tisk....you don't remember ;) We started out all together as 118 (yes FIRST recycles numbers) then when 84 broke away the team number was 143. The final split formed 222 and 284 in 1999. All three teams remain close. The splits were mainly due logistics and getting more students from each small school district involved.

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Strictly speaking, the Microsoft sponsorship exists only in that we use their facilities and we do so at the behest of just one man. Also, for what it's worth, the team did not compete in 2001 -- the season after its first at Redmond HS.

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Team 143 had these the schools and played in Torrid Terror and Ladder Logic.

• Northeastern Educational IU19
• Elk Lake HS
• Lackawanna County Area Vocational Technical School
• Lackawanna Trail HS
• Tunkhannock Area HS
• Troy Area HS
• Susquehanna County AVTS

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Team "7" - “The Labsters” - AT&T Bell Labs & Science High School, Newark, NJ

P.S.
I have to modify my answer a bit.
That team followed the sponsor, AT&T Bell Laboratories, around to a couple of different schools for only a couple of years ('93 & '94).

The closest team in the modern era of numbers would be Team 752.
Or as close as can be.

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"118" wasn't a recycled number in the modern era. It was from 1997 when all team numbers were temporary. Nobody kept those pre-1998 numbers year-to-year. I treat those like the temporary number you hang on your chest for running the marathon.
I'm staying away from using any of those pre-1998 numbers or we'll never figure out who begat who. :eek:

FIRST actually logs team 143 as the team number for both 1997 and 1998. None of the temporary numbers are preserved in the FIRST Team database.
I have the 1997 list of temporary team numbers, but I don't think I have the list used in 1996. Does anyone else?

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Pretty close...that's the list for team 118 the LITTLES. 143 didn't have Troy Area HS. It's very interesting to hear the histories of team numbers!

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What's the story on the Beachbots, 330?
I heard they started in the late 90's but the no. is "higher" than it should be, if................team #s became permanents in 1998 or 1999.
Example:
If the Poofs started in 1999 as 254 (252), how did the BeachBots start before, if their no. is higher and the nos. already became permanent?

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Joe gave a timeline in post 25.
Why did FIRST made them change their team number from 82 to 330 in 1999?

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Sponsor change caused the switch from 82 to 330.

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Now that makes sense.
Its just that when I read nos. became permanent in 1998, it got confusing.
It actually should be the 1999 season then, and maybe the decision to do this was in 1998, at the beginning of the school year?

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Actually, it's even better... Numbers were originally assigned by primary sponsor. So when a primary sponsor changed names, the team changed numbers. Annoying... But the team name didn't change, so we were still recognizable. Afterwards, it changed to registration order, if you were a rookie.

The 82/330 number change came right before the '99 season. 82 competed in Ladder Logic, the last of the pre-alliance games. 330 has competed in every game since.

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You have Team 144 listed as "Cincinnati, OH; Procter & Gamble Company & Northwest High School Career Center"

In 1994, they were in Cincinnati, OH, with Walnut Hills HS. Later (not sure when, but not in 1995) they moved to Colerain Township, OH and Northwest High School.

www.firstwiki.net has a list of teams, as does www.thebluealliance.net; it would be great if, once completed, your data could be used to update both of those sites.

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team 1918 isn't just Fremont MI. anymore its all of Newaygo county

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Team 75 was originally Team 56 in 1996 and Team 105 in 1997 before becoming Team 75 in 1998. They are located in Hillsborough, NJ.

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We got our present day permanent team numbers for the 1998 season, so they began assigning them during registration in the Fall of 1997.

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Currently, 68 is officially Oakland County Schools, and we only have students from 2 schools, Holly and Brandon. (10 from Holly, 2 from Brandon)

looks right now like we are going to be moving to Brandon High next year because our building is being shut down by the end of June... :(

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team 451 is not Northview anymore, its Dana Corporation & Sylvania City Schools (not sure if it is just Dana or Dana Holding however, we moved from the same location as 279)

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They switched schools from Walnut Hills to Northwest in 1998
But they didn't change their declared location from Cincinnati to Colerain Township until 2002 (sponsor location?)

Team 482 took over at Walnut Hills HS but only for 2000.

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I'm a little torn. I started adding those numbers but it may just confuse things, since they all need an explaination to make sense. Your extra number number, for instance, was only for a month during registration shakeout.
I have another couple in there that registered, but dropped out before the competitions, so never played.

I was thinking of removing those "never played" numbers from this list.
I do have them preserved elsewhere. It's more something that should be added to a footnotes column.

What do you think?

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Actually 91 (which is no longer in existence) gets credit for parenting many teams in SC. 281 was created from 91 when more schools were added to the mix. Later as things grew bigger for 281, groups of other schools and mentors decided it was time to start there own teams. A mentor on 281 broke off and started 343, other mentors broke off and started 415 (also no longer in existence). Later one of the founding mentors of 91 along with some of the mentors that were on 281 started 507 (also no longer in existence) which was one of the original schools involved with 91. Then some of the mentors on 507 started team 1319. Then 1319 started team 2751. So long story short team 91 takes the credit for bringing FIRST to the upstate of SC.

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Team 162 should be removed and placed as a past team number for team 308.

Also, 162 is from Farmington Hills, MI - I don't think I've even heard of Berrien Springs, MI. Anyway, since 308 and 162 is the same team, it makes sense that they're both from Farmington Hills. The reason for the team number change is because TRW changed their sponsorship from Farmington Hills Harrison High School to Walled Lake Schools and back then FIRST required a new team number due to the school change.

Also, 139 should be a past team number from the 1997 season. Here is the chronology:

1997: 139
1998: 162
1999 - present: 308

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I don't follow what you mean.

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This is cool! thanks for making it...but our team (247) is sponsored by Ford Motor Company / Comau, Inc. / Azure Dynamics / Terminal Supply / Production Tool Supply / Durst Lumber / Ringside Creative & Berkley High School

we are also out of Berkley MI, not southfield.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berrien_Springs,_Michigan :)
This is all history. That location was where the team was first "incorporated" if you will. At least that's what FIRST recorded. Looking through the records I sometimes suspect the original sponsor, teacher or administrator entered their personal home town. That's the case for at least one early Long Island team.

I added your team chronology.
I'm not removing teams though. This is a list of all team numbers that ever existed with their original incorporation information.

Others:
I have a different spreadsheet that tracks town, school, sponsor changes year-by-year: http://www.team358.org/files/frc_rec...istrations.xls

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Well then, that makes absolutely no sense as to why it was incorporated in Berrien Springs. Farmington Hills is a suburb of Detroit - about 170 miles from Berrien Springs.

As one of the founding mentors of 139/162/308, I don't even know of anyone on the team that had any association to that area. TRW back then was headquartered in Cleveland, the sponsoring division of TRW was in Farmington Hills, and the school was in Farmington Hills. The person that registered the team with FIRST was originally from Calumet, MI, which is probably 350 miles from Berrien Springs. I really have no idea how that could have been registered with FIRST that way.

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Bizarre that one. I'll change it to the correct town,

Here's the original record

Team Number:162
Team Name:TRW & Harrison HS
Location:Berrien Springs, MI, US
Rookie Year:1997
Awards Won:1997N1Rookie All-Star Award1997ILRookie All-Star Award1997ILSpecial Judge's Award
Events Attended:1998MI1998N11997N11997IL
Willing to Mentor:No
Willing to be mentee:No

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232 and 814 are related: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...9&postcount=10

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Cool. All of the events and awards match my memory. Thanks.

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I think A14 is related to A46 and 148, as 148 is now recognized as an "original and sustaining team from 1992". More details here: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...l+sust aining

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I went by the schools in the case of A14 & A46.

I see what you mean.
A14 (Dallas Christian School) started in 1992 (thru 1995), but A46 (Greenville HS) joined in 1994
148 (Greenville HS) gets credit all the way back to 1992 through the E-Systems sponsor of both teams.

I see why FIRST was on again/off again with considering 148 an original and sustaining member, should it follow the school, the school district, the sponsors, the mentors, the students?

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"You have Team 144 listed as "Cincinnati, OH; Procter & Gamble Company & Northwest High School Career Center"

In 1994, they were in Cincinnati, OH, with Walnut Hills HS. Later (not sure when, but not in 1995) they moved to Colerain Township, OH and Northwest High School."

Team 144 was actually the inspiration for 'The Littles'. We started as the result of a video confrence call from that team with the Mehoopany P&G plant. The rest is our history!

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How about if we mark all the defunct teams by putting them in italics?
Or maybe just a separate list (worksheet)?

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When I read this thread title, I want to add, "are Parking Cars and Pumping Gas" but I suspect the utes wouldn't understand me.

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You won a $ :)

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This is really Cool! I cant hink of anyother ones from off the top of my head but good job so far!:)

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Yeah, these are not much different than the numbers between years that never got assigned, or this year when they skipped a whole bunch of even numbers at the beginning of registration.
That might be different. For example, I know Detroit Catholic Central (located in Novi MI) signed up this year and got assigned as Team 2731, but they never played. Perhaps they didn't get funding. You might keep those numbers around; if they come back next year, will FIRST keep them as the same number?

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Looks like someone's done Dean's homework...

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New version is posted.
I italicized the defunct teams. I'm not sure it adds anything. Too much mixing of regular font and italics, it all just sort of blends together.


Each year we get 20 or 30 teams who register, but fail to launch.
Offhand I'd guess that FIRST eventually just purges those unplayed numbers, however, the did maintain all that stuff for years and only began purging it from the public database in the last couple of seasons. BTW this seasons failure-to-launch teams are still there in the public FIRST database (e.g., 2731), but last years aren't (e.g., 2351, Mariner HS, Everett, WA). I don't know if FIRST maintains full data in their private database, but I suspect they must.
None of those teams who have been able to successfully start again later has ever gotten the original never-played number. They always get a new rookie number that matches the year they really do first play in.

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The name listed for team 241 is dated by about 6 or 7 seasons

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That's because I tried to use the name you were originally registered under.

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Wow, I just sorted by state and discovered a team for the first time from 1997 that I had never heard of before from my area!

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I wonder if 139 and 159 are related. They look like they're from the same high school

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On closer look they are from different high schools, but the same school district.
It doesn't look like one school joined the other in 1999 either.

• 139 Front Range Community College & Poudre School District/Fort Collins High School Fort Collins, CO
• 159 Symbios/Colorado State University & Poudre High School Fort Collins, CO

The FRC database entry for them was incorrect.
I'll fix that. (Well, maybe not the FIRST database, but this spreadsheet at least...)

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I don't mean to add on to other corrections, but it shows a 1996 team from Flanders NJ who I don't think is us. Then shows another Flanders NJ team in 97 that is us. Wonder who team 153 is.

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Should have been Bridgewater, NJ.
I'll fix that.

Team Number: 153
Team Name: Ortho-McNeil Pharmaceutical & Somerset County Vocational & Technical Schools
Location: Bridgewater, NJ, US
Team Motto: TEARIN' IT UP & BURNIN' IT DOWN
Robot Name: Smokey
Rookie Year: 1997
Awards Won:
2000 NJ Best Offensive Round
1999 NJ Outstanding Defense
1999 NJ #1 Seed
Events Attended:
2001 National Championship
2001 J&J Mid-Atlantic Regional
2000 N1
2000 NJ
1999 N1
1999 NJ
1998 NJ
1997 NJ
Willing to Mentor: No
Willing to be mentee: No
Website: http://web.archive.org/web/200108060...153/index.html

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How hard was that??
I noticed that team 33 was down as DaimlerChrysler & Avondale High School & Notre Dame Preparatory. We've changed since then as there is no longer a Daimler Chrysler. It should be The Chrysler Foundation & Notre Dame Preparatory. Thanks and amazing work!! :]

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Team 408 was 132 before 2000. The sponsor "borrowed" the number and paired with Northeast HS at that time.

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153 was known as the Wombats for at least one of their years in FIRST; they were our "twin" team for a while when both 341 and 153 were sponsored by Ortho-McNeil Pharmaceutical. In fact, in 2002 when we were voting on team names, we very nearly selected the Wombats instead of Miss Daisy.

Every year at our off-season event, Ramp Riot, we reserve a spot for pre-rookies to compete with our practice robot; we use number 153 for this entry in honor of our old mentors. In years past, teams like 1712 and 2234 have competed as team 153.

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A small correction. Team 153 was never known as the Wombats during a regular FRC season. Their robot name each year was "Smokey". Also team 153 was our "sister" team, not really a "twin" in the modern FRC understanding of the word. We would sometimes swap mentors around, but we always built independently from each other. 153 did most of their building out of a wonderful company called Universal Machine and we built at the local O-M facility in Springhouse, PA.

153 had some great kids, great machines and great mentors. We still miss them.

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I just did a filter on *NASA* and got a count of 868 teams.
That's about a third of all FRC teams ever.

One of the advantages of using original team names.


Sponsor "owned" team numbers make it difficult to consistently track teams through the years, especially when primary sponsors themselves change names, e.g., NYNEX= Bell Atlantic.
Team 19 is an odd example of a team being associated with a sponsor not a school. In the FRC Team Database Team 19, Greenwich, CT, gets credit for a rookie year of 1994, although the school didn't actually have a team until 1998, and the sponsor, NYNEX, didn't have a team any closer than 70 miles.

Some schools do change names as well, but it's rare. Teams more often combine multiple schools or split off schools to form their own teams.

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If it helps, team #1535 is a split from #1596. In 2007, when #1596 grew and split, it was an international team (half American, half Canadian), and the team split along the border. Since the team was registered in the US as a Michigan team (no way to register it as an international team), the American half kept the #1596 designation. Team 1535 (the Canadian half), was given an option to fish for dead numbers and picked 1535 so they could belong in the same rookie year grouping. We still post our winnings from our rookie and second year ('05 & '06), and still cheer on the Instigators whenever we can (harder to do this year with MI closed to us Cannucks).

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Thanks for those details.
That's just the kind of information I'm looking to collect.
I remember when you guys were the only true international team :)

I'm sure there are more team splits & mergers out there we don't know about...

I'm continuing to find relationships and have been updating the original spreadsheet each day. At the rate I can dedicate to reviewing it it'll be another several weeks before I finish going through it.
Everyone's additions and corrections have been extremely helpful and I thank you for them. The longer range intent is to wrap these team relationships back into our FRC team database to make it searchable, and we anticipate that'll be done over the summer. We're also waiting for the FIRST database to be updated with 2009 awards data so that can be added as well.

We have a web page now dedicated to this kind of stuff at : http://www.team358.org/files/frc_records/index.php
That page has links to original prime data sources found via the Wayback Machine and on Chief Delphi threads.

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I thought these details from the 2010 Registration thread deserved to be here in this thread.

Anyone have any interesting tidbits about past teams or teams that have been reincarnated under other numbers?

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Everyone knows about:

51 - merger of 47 & 65
78 - from students & mentors of 121 (rights to 121 are retained by the school, but participation by 121 in 2010 is in question.)

Several other schools played before under other numbers.

• 3146: was part of a 1997 pre-number team (I call it A197) (13 years ago)
• 3135: was 1055 (6 years ago)
• 3148 is at a school that was once part of teams 125 & 246
• 3171 was 1019 (3 years ago)
• 3200 was once both teams 1190 & 1338 (last participated 6 years ago)
• 3165 was once both teams 452 & 1433 (6 years ago)
• 3235 was 2431 last season

Other musings:

• 3143 appears to be a sibling team of 1334 out of the same school
• 2167 has generated several sister teams: 2003, 2006, 2020
• 1754 appears to have just changed it's number from 1779
• 2741 looks like it has split into 2704 (now associated with a school, but still with their old sponsor), and 2949 (still independent)
• 3161 is a sibling team of 1334
• 3262 appears to have been 1008 last year, but joined with another high school this year

Also, I missed team 2902's second reincarnation as team 1210, but Richard pointed that out

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This isn't from this year, but the two schools originally part of team 6 are back and playing under new numbers.

Hopkins High School is team 2239
Washburn High School is team 2549

I've heard rumors that the school that was originally team 10 may be coming back this year, but I don't see them registered yet so I'm not sure if they're actually coming back or not.

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I am not sure if you want to make such changes but Team 223-Xtreme Heat has changed sponsors and locations. (A couple of times)

Your database states-

Johnson & Johnson/Rutger's University/Raytheon/State Electric/Turner Construction & New Brunswick High School

While-

After New Brunswick High School Team 223 moved to Middlesex County VoTech in Piscataway, (Central NJ)

and is now located at Lakeland Regional High School in Wanaque, NJ. (Northern NJ)

Our major sponsors are currently Johnson & Johnson, State Electric, Turner Pharmaceutical, and Anadigics. (But might soon change again)

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Is that Benilde St Margaret's?

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Yes, BSM was originally team 10.

rcoren22,
Mark's database lists the original registration for all teams, as opposed to current information. Current information can be found readily in the FIRST database.

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Yeah...

That makes sense.

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What Kevin said about listing original team names & sponsors was my first intent and holds on the main list of everyone.

Enough people commented on the name changes though that I added a tab that lists those kinds of changes. You can sort the lists by team number to find the details you're looking for on the tab "Every Year of Every Team"


Sorting by 223, for example, I see:
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1999 New Brunswick, NJ 223 Johnson & Johnson/Rutger's University/Raytheon/State Electric/Turner Construction & New Brunswick High School

2000 New Brunswick, NJ 223 Johnson & Johnson/Rutger's University/Raytheon/State Electric/Turner Construction & New Brunswick High School

2001 New Brunswick, NJ 223 Johnson and Johnson/State Electric/Fritze Keyspan/Turner Construction & Middlesex County Vocational and Technical High Schools & New Brunswick Health Sciences Technology High School

2002 Piscataway, NJ 223 Johnson & Johnson/State Electrical & Motor Service/Fritze Keyspan/Turner Construction & Middlesex County Vocational and Technical High Schools & New Brunswick Health Sciences Technology High School

2003 Piscataway, NJ 223 Johnson & Johnson/State Electrical & Motor Service/Fritze Keyspan/Turner Construction & Middlesex County Vocational and Technical High Schools & New Brunswick Health Sciences Technology High School

2004 Piscataway, NJ 223 Johnson & Johnson/State Electrical & Motor Service/Fritze Keyspan/Turner Construction & Middlesex County Vocational and Technical High Schools

2005 Piscataway, NJ 223 Johnson & Johnson/State Electric/Turner Construction & middlesexcountyvo-tech

2006 Piscataway, NJ 223 Johnson & Johnson/State Electric & Piscataway Vo-Tech

2007 Piscataway, NJ 223 Johnson & Johnson / State Electric & LakeLand Regional High School & Piscataway Vo-Tech

2008 Piscataway, NJ 223 Johnson & Johnson/State Electric & LakeLand Regional High School & Piscataway Vo-Tech

2009 Wanaque, NJ 223 Johnson & Johnson/State Electric & LakeLand Regional High School & Piscataway Vo-Tech

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You have some pretty solid sponsors there with Johnson & Johnson and State Electric.

I've started adding some info. from this year, e.g., Kevin and Richard's additions, but I'll hold off adding all the 2010 teams until registration settles out around the time competitions begin. Teams are still dropping off the registration roles as well as adding in.

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Yes Mark,

We have been quite fortunate over the years to have some great support!

Thanks for the reply and the pointer to the other tab (which I must have missed).

Great project for all your "spare" time.

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To be honest, this is probably the coolest thing that I have seen in a very long time.

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The way I understand it is that team 250 had a relationship with team 20, but was never located in Clifton Park, NY, but it was rather located in Colonie from the beginning. I am not 100% sure on this, but I can check with team 20 and 250 and give a better understanding of that relationship later. I don't think any relationship exists between them today.

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Hey, just a quick note to thank Team 358 for continuing to update this info - and the monster FRC team excel file - here:
http://team358.org/files/frc_records/index.php
Nice work - it was a valuable tool for me as a FIRST Regional Director finishing up my first year. This past year marked the eighth Pittsburgh Regional, but FRC records that I have only go back to 2006, and this document quickly filled some of the gaps in my records, as well as shedding light on some of the teams' histories. Thanks! Your efforts are appreciated!
Patricia DePra
FIRST Regional Director - Western PA (Pittsburgh)

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that is an awesome list, although team 159 has a sponsorship with AMD and Metal Distributors now instead of with NASA. i think we have a list like this with numbers for all the teams that existed before 1997 then got a permanent number.

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Glad you survived your first year as Regional Director.
We're glad you found the history useful and somewhat surprised you even found it. There's quite a ton of information sources to consume your first year. As you can tell we like to preserve history that was disappearing. Anything you learn about the interrelationship of Pittsburgh teams that can be added to this record would be appreciated in return. It doesn't have to be old. It can be about 201o or 2011 teams. This is only what we've collected so far...

The entry you happened to look at lists your original team sponsors.
You'll find all past and current sponsors listed by year on the "Every Year of Every Team" tab.
Right now your sponsors are listed as:
AMD/Agilent Technologies, Inc./LSI Logic & Poudre High School

Your team's Main Contact needs to update your sponsor list on the FIRST TIMS (Team Information Management System) with changes.