Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Java and Orbit Balls
 

Don't forget that if you buy more than 12 balls you will be contacted by Logo Loc for additional handling charges. http://logoloc.com/first/RNR/2009Gam...ge-purple.html at the bottom.

Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Java and Orbit Balls
 

The massive shipping charge is very much probably assuming that you're buying a truckload of balls.

Paying $36 for 10 balls seems much more reasonable than $100. A full field should cost $390 now instead of a few thousand, very much better deal.

Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Java and Orbit Balls
 

Off season events are going to be very, very interesting this year.

/worried since Ramp Riot isn't until November...

Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Java and Orbit Balls
 

Hey, whatever happened to all those replica balls from preseason? I'm positive that those are cheaper... I believe 980 was making those kits? Talk about a HUGE off season fundraiser now with all the events that need massive amounts of balls.

Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Java and Orbit Balls
 

What a ripoff. They ought to just include a check box for which organ you'd like to sell to cover the cost of your orbit balls.

Seriously? A $6.31 handling fee to put a ball in a box and tape it up? This is a bad joke, right?

You must be doing something wrong. I just googled an Orlando zip code and put it in, and it's $11.45 to ship 12 balls via UPS ground.

Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Java and Orbit Balls
 

Nope, I tried my Zip Code and got a result then a minute later I tried to recalc it and it reported it wasn't valid. Who knows what their system is doing.

Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Java and Orbit Balls
 

http://www.lunacygameballs.com/

They're apparently stiffer and not exact replicas of Orbit balls. Also, they cost $100 for 10, so it's really the same price, albeit less destructible.

Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Java and Orbit Balls *****Orbit Ball Discussion****
 

I split this conversation into 2 threads into a java discussion and an orbit ball one.

Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Java and Orbit Balls *****Orbit Ball Discussion****
 

Wow... I just realized that we are sitting on a gold mine here at AndyMark. :) We have 300-400 of these balls, ready for off-season events.

I would assume that Logo-Loc is going to get this handling fee thing fixed pretty soon. They have been a good partner to FIRST for many years, and I gotta believe that this is a temporary snafu. Hopefully, they'll fix this and people will be happy.

Andy B.

Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Java and Orbit Balls *****Orbit Ball Discussion****
 

It seems to already be fixed.

Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Java and Orbit Balls *****Orbit Ball Discussion****
 

I put a few fake orders together yesterday, and they seem to have their handling charge issue fixed.

Shipping charges are still pricey. The smallest shipping cost as a percentage of total order cost (33-36%) occurs when you order 20 balls.

I also found that shipping to two adjacent ZIP codes resulted in at least a few dollars' difference in shipping charges. Shipping to a commercial address (say, a sponsor's corporate address....or perhaps a high school) also cuts $4.55 off your order.

To Residential 44410, UPS Ground:

5 balls: $15.00 + $15.82
10 balls: $30.00 + $22.24
15 balls: $45.00 + $29.11
20 balls: $60.00 + $34.24
25 balls: $75.00 + $48.78
30 balls: $90.00 + $63.37

To Commercial 44483, UPS Ground:

5 balls: $15.00 + $11.27
10 balls: $30.00 + $17.69
15 balls: $45.00 + $24.56
20 balls: $60.00 + $29.69
25 balls: $75.00 + $44.23
30 balls: $90.00 + $58.82

Update - I just placed an order for 20 balls, and unless they add it after the fact (grr), NO handling charge was applied at all. When all was said and done, it appears I paid $4.48 per ball. 1/2 price is not horrible, presuming the balls are in usable shape.

Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Java and Orbit Balls *****Orbit Ball Discussion****
 

Looks like they are certainly working on it Andy.

Trav, I too saw that no charge was added in the total over the weekend, yet it's still on the screen, so i'm going to see what happens to/with a few of you folks first. The shipping is a little pricey, but not horrid overall.

Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Java and Orbit Balls *****Orbit Ball Discussion****
 

Well, they sent me an order confirmation email, where no handling charge appeared in the total, and I'm holding them to it :cool: :

Date : 18 May 2009 - 12:05
Order ID : blah

Payment by Credit card

Product : Quantity : Price
Empty Cell Orbit Ball - $3 + $6.31 Handling : 20 : 3.00

Subtotal : 60.00
Shipping : 29.69
TOTAL : 89.69

Billing details:

[blah blah blah]

Thank you for your order.

Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Java and Orbit Balls *****Orbit Ball Discussion****
 

Yep yep... FedEx or UPS charges us different rates for commercial (cheaper) versus residential. Up to this point, AndyMark has not made that distinction in what we charge our customers, but we will probably change that this summer. We are looking at automating our shipping charges and actually are running a test right now with current orders. (we don't dare make broad changes like this during the build season)

Andy B.

Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Java and Orbit Balls *****Orbit Ball Discussion****
 

You think that shipping is expensive, our first supply of 6 balls arrived with a $400 shipping bill! Someone got a bit excited and shipped them overnight Texas-London. :ahh:

The shipping option doesn't like my postcode either, I bet the letters really confuse it. If you don't have an option to ship to the UK, don't put it in the drop down menu!

Wetzel