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JackN 14-06-2009 21:30
[FF]: IRI Auction League
 
I am proposing a 10 owner auction style draft with each member having 7 teams. Scoring will be based on draft position, elimination finish and qualifying record (If available). Each owner will have 100 points to use to buy teams in an auction style. The draft will take place on a day and time agreed upon by the owners after the team list has been formalized for IRI. It will also take place via AOL Instant Messenger in a chat room.

1. JackN

Ericgehrken 14-06-2009 21:32
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
I'm in

1. JackN
2. firstbots195

Alex Cormier 14-06-2009 21:50
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
in.

Joe G. 14-06-2009 21:55
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
in.

Ericgehrken 14-06-2009 21:58
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
2009 FF IRI Auction League Current Roster

1. JackN
2. firstbots195
3. Alex Cormier
4. rocketperson44

IndySam 14-06-2009 22:44
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
Current Roster

1. JackN
2. firstbots195
3. Alex Cormier
4. rocketperson44
5. IndySam

in.

ATannahill 14-06-2009 22:47
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
i'll take a whack at it

1. JackN
2. firstbots195
3. Alex Cormier
4. rocketperson44
5. IndySam
6. rtfgnow

Akash Rastogi 14-06-2009 22:56
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
In.

1. JackN
2. firstbots195
3. Alex Cormier
4. rocketperson44
5. IndySam
6. rtfgnow
7. Akash Rastogi

Travis Hoffman 14-06-2009 23:02
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 863544)

1. JackN
2. firstbots195
3. Alex Cormier
4. rocketperson44
5. IndySam
6. rtfgnow
7. Akash Rastogi
8. Travis Hoffman
Darn it, now I want fantasy football season to start again. :)

Chris is me 14-06-2009 23:29
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
in, if possible ^_^


1. JackN
2. firstbots195
3. Alex Cormier
4. rocketperson44
5. IndySam
6. rtfgnow
7. Akash Rastogi
8. Travis Hoffman
9. Chris is me

XaulZan11 14-06-2009 23:33
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
in.

Love fantasy auction leagues...

Akash Rastogi 14-06-2009 23:36
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman (Post 863545)
Darn it, now I want fantasy football season to start again. :)
My first pick is team 46. :p

I just won.

1. JackN
2. firstbots195
3. Alex Cormier
4. rocketperson44
5. IndySam
6. rtfgnow
7. Akash Rastogi
8. Travis Hoffman
9. Chris is me
10. XaulZan11

Chris is me 14-06-2009 23:40
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
I will offer 100 points for Team 46! Who could let such legends get into your hands!

On a serious note this would make more sense being done in IRC, but AIM works too.

JackN 14-06-2009 23:53
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
1. JackN
2. firstbots195
3. Alex Cormier
4. rocketperson44
5. IndySam
6. rtfgnow
7. Akash Rastogi
8. Travis Hoffman
9. Chris is me
10. XaulZan11

The league is closed

Barry Bonzack 20-06-2009 17:23
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
this sounds like a cool twist to FF. let me know how it pans out, I'm disappointed I've been too busy to be on CD lately

Barry Bonzack 23-06-2009 00:23
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
Sounds like there is an opening afterall. If so, I'm in.

Barry Bonzack 05-07-2009 17:28
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
I would like to make a suggestion, I know we are planning on doing live bidding, but i'm wondering if there is a way to do bidding through posts, and set a final call date.

Example. I bid the following amount of points, for the following teams listed in order by lowest number team.



67--------Barry Bonzack---15
68--------Barry Bonzack---14
71--------Barry Bonzack---14
111-------Barry Bonzack---14
217-------Barry Bonzack---15
1114------Barry Bonzack---14
1625------Barry Bonzack---14

If someone wants them more than I do, they replace their name with mine and the new high bid, and add any other bids in numeric order.

Rules:
You can not bid for more than 7 teams at one time.
You can not bid for more than 100 points at one time.
No decimal points - bid in whole numbers only


This is not kicking off this bidding system, I just wanted to discuss the option. If the point of this league was to involve real-time bidding in a chat room format, then this system will not work. If the goal of the league is to innovate a new way to select teams for FF, then its worth discussion.

Ericgehrken 06-07-2009 17:50
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
Just to let the league know, my CD username has been changed to Ericgehrken.

XaulZan11 06-07-2009 19:11
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
Will we still be drafting tommorrow even though the final team list hasn't been posted?

I would prefer we wait until we get the final team list. I think if the draft is before, the results may be determined by who has insider information or who is faster to snatch up the new team, instead of actually knowing the teams.

JackN 06-07-2009 20:16
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
I agree, I would like to postpone the draft until next tuesday (if the list is posted soon). I apologize for the inconveniences this may cause. Either PM me or respond here if that is ok.

@Barry I would like this to be a live draft, to have a more social aspect to this league.

Ericgehrken 06-07-2009 20:29
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
I'm fine with waiting until next week.

IndySam 06-07-2009 20:35
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
I'm easy, next week is fine.

Chris is me 07-07-2009 01:03
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
As long as it's not Wednesday or Thursday (RPI Orientation) I'm good.

Joe G. 13-07-2009 14:29
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
Unfortunately, due to a change in travel plans, I will be unable to participate in the draft this week. My spot is up for grabs

I apologize for the last-minute notice.

Akash Rastogi 13-07-2009 14:45
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rocketperson44 (Post 866536)
Unfortunately, due to a change in travel plans, I will be unable to participate in the draft this week. My spot is up for grabs

I apologize for the last-minute notice.
Can I call dibs?

Joe G. 13-07-2009 15:12
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
Sure, you can have it

Chris is me 13-07-2009 16:25
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
I wish I didn't tell Akash all my favorite picks now ._.

Anyway, correction to the PM: My AIM is actually wikichrisisme .

XaulZan11 14-07-2009 17:46
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
I have one suggestion and one question.

For the suggestion: I've done a couple of auction fantasy football leagues and for those once a person nominates a player/team, an open auction is began. Here anyone can bid at anytime and it ends when no one wants to bid, instead of going in order having each person bid or pass. I fear that by going in order, the draft may take hours and may be overly confusing ("Am I next? I thought I was after...?"). Just a suggestion, I've never done it this way, so it may be easier.

For the question: If we keep it the bidding/passing in order, can you pass one 'round' and then bid the next time around?

Akash Rastogi 14-07-2009 18:17
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
Unfortunately, I'll have to drop for tonight for something important. Sorry.




girl+move>robots

ATannahill 14-07-2009 18:45
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
Does that mean we need a new person or you are going to take from what is left over?

Aren_Hill 14-07-2009 19:02
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 866702)

girl+move>robots
wait im confused....:confused: :eek:


had to

Travis Hoffman 14-07-2009 19:20
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
I would proceed with what we have.

JackN 14-07-2009 19:22
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
I am just planning on going ahead as scheduled.

IndySam 14-07-2009 19:24
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JackN (Post 866711)
I am just planning on going ahead as scheduled.
can I have his 100 points?

JackN 14-07-2009 19:25
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by IndySam (Post 866712)
can I have his 100 points?
Sorry No, instead you have to start with 90 points

ATannahill 14-07-2009 19:33
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
Can I have his 10 points?

Alex Cormier 14-07-2009 19:46
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
All your points is mine.

Chris is me 14-07-2009 19:57
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
All your points are belong to us. I have a pick list and everything ready, no invite yet.

Alex Cormier 14-07-2009 19:59
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
AIM chat room is iriffauctiondraft

Chris is me 14-07-2009 23:23
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
My final pix:

1625
47
1503
1771
461
48

Akash Rastogi 14-07-2009 23:41
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 866745)
My final pix:

1625
47
1503
1771
461
48
That's a great set of teams Chris..wish I hadn't missed out =/

ATannahill 14-07-2009 23:43
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
I got 2970 399 70 1646 2826 and 868.

Barry Bonzack 15-07-2009 01:12
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
1114, 234, 71, 1732, 910, and...errr... was it 1714?

Travis Hoffman 15-07-2009 01:24
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
Here is the final IRI Auction League draft board.

Position is the order in which teams were selected for bidding. Bid is the final winning bid the Owner paid for the team. Each of the 9 owners had a budget of 100 points to spend on 6 teams.

I definitely enjoyed this more than the typical pick your team directly draft. The only caveat is that an auction draft takes more time to complete.

Code:

Team  Name                    Position    Bid  Owner
1625  Winnovation                  1        31  Chris is Me
67    Heroes of Tomorrow          2        40  Alex Cormier
217  ThunderChickens              3        34  IndySam
222  Tigertrons                  4        23  Ericgehrken
148  Robowranglers                5        21  Travis Hoffman
254  The Cheesy Poofs            6        26  Alex Cormier
45    TechnoKats                  7        25  IndySam
365  Miracle Workerz/MOE          8        17  JackN
79    Krunch                      9        20  Alex Cormier
2970  eSchool eBots              10        22  rtfgnow
503  Frog Force                  11        15  Xaulzan11
111  Wildstang                  12        34  IndySam
1114  Simbotics                  13        28  Barry Bonzack
1503  Spartonics                  14        21  Chris is Me
2753  Team Overdrive              15        27  Travis Hoffman
68    Truck Town Thunder          16        32  JackN
2775  Liberty-DeWALT Robotics    17        19  Xaulzan11
47    Chief Delphi                18        19  Chris is Me
2056  OP Robotics                19        33  Xaulzan11
1902  Exploding Bacon            20        16  Ericgehrken
1538  The Holy Cows              21        17  Travis Hoffman
234  Cyber Blue                  22        22  Barry Bonzack
71    Team Hammond                23        31  Barry Bonzack
33    Killer Bees                24        17  Ericgehrken
330  Beach Bots                  25        16  JackN
48    Delphi E.L.I.T.E.          26        4  Chris is Me
399  Eagle Robotics              27        26  rtfgnow
245  Adambots                    28        24  JackN
1923  The MidKnight Inventors    29        12  Ericgehrken
341  Miss Daisy                  30        11  Xaulzan11
16    Bomb Squad                  31        17  Travis Hoffman
179  Children of the Swamp      32        12  Alex Cormier
70    More Martians              33        13  rtfgnow
469  Las Guerrillas              34        12  Xaulzan11
1646  Boiler Precision Guessworks 35        2  rtfgnow
1771  North Gwinnett Robotics    36        19  Chris is Me
2826  Wave Robotics              37        7  rtfgnow
135  Black Knights              38        19  Ericgehrken
1038  Thunderhawks                39        7  Travis Hoffman
1747  HBR                        40        13  Ericgehrken
1649  EMS                        41        11  Travis Hoffman
461  Westside Boiler Invasion    42        6  Chris is Me
1741  Red Alert Robotics          43        1  IndySam
1714  More Robotics              44        2  Barry Bonzack
868  TechHOUNDS                  45        30  rtfgnow
910  The Foley Freeze            46        11  Barry Bonzack
292  PantherTech                47        2  IndySam
832  Chimera                    48        1  Alex Cormier
1675  Ultimate Protection Squad  49        1  Xaulzan11
107  Team R.O.B.O.T.I.C.S        50        6  JackN
1732  Hilltoppers                51        6  Barry Bonzack
1024  Kil-A-Bytes                52        5  JackN
829  The Digital Goats          53        4  IndySam
118  The Robonauts              54        1  Alex Cormier

Akash Rastogi 15-07-2009 01:47
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
Dang some of those were such steals!:yikes:

Chris is me 15-07-2009 05:53
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
I'm still shocked I got the new and improved 47 for only 19 points. And still upset that rtfgnow outbid me on all my favorite rookies. Still can't complain with 6 very solid teams though.

XaulZan11 15-07-2009 12:07
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
Yeah, I agree with Travis. The auction style was a lot more enjoyable. It also gives more freedom to the person: do they want 3 elite teams and 3 scrubs or 6 very solid teams? It does take longer and does require everyone to be at the draft, but I think it is worth it.

I'm fairly pleased with my team. 5/6 of them made eliminations in Atlanta. Only Eric has more, but I don't think he has an elite team, like 2056.

I think Barry and JackN have the two best teams, though.

Barry Bonzack 15-07-2009 20:38
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
I'm giving Indysam the nod on this one.

I'm wishing I would have bitten the bullet and bid for 222. I am very pleased with my team though.

IndySam 15-07-2009 20:55
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
I took the go big or go home approach and spent 93 on my first three picks.
There were a couple of real good teams that I thought would sneak under peoples radar but that didn't happen the way I hoped.

We will see if lack of depth hurts me.

217, 45, 111, 1741, 292 and 829.

Chris is me 16-07-2009 11:41
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
I was going to go for 1 superpower, 3 under the radar, 2 whatever else I can get, and it worked out alright for me. I wish 2970 went for less, but I've got 47 for less than I expected 2970 so I can't complain.

2826 was going to be my sleeper since all they really need to do in order to be competitive at IRI is human load and / or modify their intake (they even have an autonomous that takes them close enough to a human player, so it's literally just a strategy change). But silly rtfgnow had to nab them and 2970 in the Spree of Wisconsin Rookies.

I like the auction style because it allowed for a lot of strategy discussion, closest thing I'll get to FIRST IRC :)

Travis Hoffman 20-07-2009 11:09
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
With 2826's exit from the IRI team list, rtfgnow must make another selection from the remaining list of teams.

ATannahill 20-07-2009 13:23
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
How long can I procrastinate deliberate before choosing?

Chris is me 20-07-2009 17:07
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
Do it long enough for me to bribe them into going again ?

I don't see why you shouldn't have all the time you need.

Akash Rastogi 20-07-2009 17:14
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 867295)
How long can I procrastinate deliberate before choosing?
May I suggest 2199?

JackN 20-07-2009 17:43
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
You can switch up until the Thursday of IRI, just make sure to post it here or PM me.

ATannahill 20-07-2009 17:48
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
Right now I am going to take 2194.

Barry Bonzack 22-07-2009 01:28
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
I have been wrestling with this since the draft, and I am not sure what the rules are on switching teams in this league, but is it possible to drop 1732 and pick up 2199?

XaulZan11 25-07-2009 21:27
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry Bonzack (Post 867458)
I have been wrestling with this since the draft, and I am not sure what the rules are on switching teams in this league, but is it possible to drop 1732 and pick up 2199?

If it is possible, I would like to drop 1675 and pick up 1732.

JackN 25-07-2009 21:46
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
All these changes are fine, I will update the scoring sheet.

Barry Bonzack 31-07-2009 22:39
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
I uploaded a whitepaper. So far...

Chris 25-10-0
Indysam 23-12-0
Alex 23-13-0
Xaul 19-17-0
Barry 18-17-0
Travis 16-20-0
Eric 16-20-0
rtfgnow 15-19-0
JackN 12-22-0

Chris is me 01-08-2009 00:15
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
I told you guys that 47 for 19 points was a MASSIVE steal. They are absolutely awesome. I'm really happy with all my picks, actually. They're all doing pretty well. Once we get to eliminations I suspect stuff will happen.

JackN 02-08-2009 13:31
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
I'll try to score it this week, expect it up by Wednesday probably. If I had to bet, I would think XaulZan or Chris is Me probably won.

JackN 05-08-2009 01:21
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
And we have scores

Chris Is Me 174
IndySam 153
XaulZan 143
Alex Cormier 138
JackN 133
Barry Bonzack 128
Travis Hoffman 102
ErichGehrken 89
rtfgnow 73

XaulZan11 05-08-2009 14:58
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
Darn, I thought I had a good chance with 5 of my 6 teams making the eliminations (the most by anyone). Congrats to Chris!

Jack, could you post the scoring that you used? I'm doing a season long fantasy FIRST (similar to football where you keep teams throughout the year and choose which ones to start) with some people on my team and working on a fair scoring system for robot preformance only.

Chris is me 05-08-2009 21:35
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
I don't really know the scoring system but I bet I got lucky with a lot of the awards. 1771 getting a Judge's Award, 47 getting Best Scoring Robot, and 461 getting one on top of 1625 winning probably gave me a huge boost. I didn't pick based on awards.

Alex Cormier 07-08-2009 18:14
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
At least I beat Jack...

Koko Ed 08-08-2009 08:59
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Cormier (Post 869587)
At least I beat Jack...
You live for the small victories, don't you?

JaneYoung 08-08-2009 11:31
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 869275)
I didn't pick based on awards.
Just a little food for thought for a moment...

With the depth of the field in so many different areas besides and alongside of the robot competition - it would have given you all a run for your money and an excellent use of your time to think about all of the teams involved in IRI 2009 and what they each brought to the table. It was a cornucopia of talent, expertise, passion, knowledge, commitment, inspiration, attitude, and teamwork. Given the times and realities that we are living in, the teams and everything that they believe in and stand for, made IRI even more significant and powerful in 2009.

.02
Jane

Aren_Hill 08-08-2009 12:50
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
Jane, its alot harder to pinpoint a team which will get a certain award such as the imagery award and so on, than it is to pick out teams you know will perform on the field well. As such it is typically an intelligent choice to pick by robot capability for a small mini competition FF based around such.

JaneYoung 08-08-2009 13:10
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aren_Hill (Post 869668)
Jane, its alot harder to pinpoint a team which will get a certain award such as the imagery award and so on, than it is to pick out teams you know will perform on the field well. As such it is typically an intelligent choice to pick by robot capability for a small mini competition FF based around such.
Yup.

And, congratulations to you and the team on a job well done.

IndySam 08-08-2009 14:04
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
My best ever finish in a FRC fantasy league. I would really like to see how the scoring went, Jack and I have a history together and .........







:)

XaulZan11 08-08-2009 19:49
Re: [FF]: IRI Auction League
 
Actually, scoring was not based on awards--only on the field preformance. But I do agree that trying to predict awards winners (especially in such a deep field where nearly every team is deserving) is very difficult.


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