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MrForbes 17-06-2009 15:39

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Our first color TV was the Heathkit we (kids) built in 1973. Still have it...it still works....

JohnBoucher 17-06-2009 15:46

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Originally Posted by squirrel (Post 863886)
Our first color TV was the Heathkit we (kids) built in 1973. Still have it...it still works....

Ahh Heathkit. What a shame they are gone:(

dtengineering 17-06-2009 16:18

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If you want to watch some analog TV, come up to Canada... we're not switching over until August 2011.

But in the big picture I wonder what format "television" will take in the next five to ten years. The improvement in streaming video over the internet that I have seen over the past five years leaves me wondering how cable, satellite and broadcast TV companies are going to react to the availability of on-demand streaming HDTV... which, if not quite a reality, soon will be.

It will be exciting to see all those TV channels re-purposed to wireless communications, though. It is amazing how much digital data can be packeted down an old NTSC channel.

Jason

Al Skierkiewicz 17-06-2009 19:54

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While I write this, a Heathkit HW101 and matching speaker with HP13B power supply sits on my right and a SB634 Station Console sits on the left with an HW-8 and some test gear is looking down from the shelf behind me.

DonRotolo 17-06-2009 21:21

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Originally Posted by ebarker (Post 863862)
back in the day when we had to 'peak the grids' and 'dip the plates'

Grid? Plates?
Oh, you must mean Hollow State components...
:cool:

Raym 18-06-2009 02:23

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So what is going to hapen to all of the analog transmitters?

Al Skierkiewicz 18-06-2009 07:39

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NTSC analog transmission is still the standard in many other countries so some are being sold to brokers for those markets. Since the FCC had originally proposed that the move to digital was to take place in 1996, many stations had been limping along on their old transmitters waiting for the move so those are being scrapped. Low power UHF channels (local special interest stations) are not required to move/vacate for another four years. Some linear/ultra linear transmitter amplifiers (like ours) are able to transmit digital with relatively few modifications. Some digital stations are returning to their analog frequency now that the move is complete using those transmitters. Current technology allows transmitters to have a low power "exciter" that generates the analog or digital signal which feeds a high powered amplifier. In our analog transmitter, a 10 watt exciter fed into a series of 100 watt intermediate power amps (IPAs) that in turn fed into a series of 2kW amplifier modules. The modules are then summed together into an 18kW output. This transmitter is even capable of summing two amplifiers together for a total of 36 kW. Since digital transmission requires an ultra linear transmitter, automatic distortion/precorrection circuitry takes a sample of the output signal, filters out the distortion and then adds that distortion signal of the opposite phase at the exciter to null out the non linearity. I know, you are saying "It's digital! Why a linear amplifier?". Digital transmission is still an analog signal, modulated and filtered, with an encoded serial digital signal.

Richard Wallace 18-06-2009 08:02

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Originally Posted by Al Skierkiewicz (Post 863948)
/.... I know, you are saying "It's digital! Why a linear amplifier?". Digital transmission is still an analog signal, modulated and filtered, with an encoded serial digital signal.

Thanks for reminding us of this simple, important fact, Al. Analog has not really been killed or scrapped. The systems we nickname 'digital' only look like streams of ones and zeroes when viewed at signal processing time scales. At smaller time scales, which are always of interest when we consider the economics of distributing those signals, they are really analog.

Of course, when a lossless, zero-delay, zero-cost power switching device is invented, linear (analog) power circuits will be obsolete. We are not there yet.

Cynette 18-06-2009 17:32

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Originally Posted by NorviewsVeteran (Post 863884)
...before my mom got a color tv, she didn't understand the big deal with the Wizard of Oz...

What!?! the Wizard of Oz is in color!?! :yikes:

Great photo, Al!

DonRotolo 18-06-2009 21:06

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Originally Posted by Al Skierkiewicz (Post 863948)
Digital transmission is still an analog signal, modulated and filtered, with an encoded serial digital signal.

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Originally Posted by Richard (Post 863949)
Thanks for reminding us of this simple, important fact, Al.

What? :ahh: You mean the world is really....analog? <gasp>

Oh Nooooo:rolleyes:


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