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GaryVoshol 29-07-2009 15:18
Re: IRI Predictions??
 
Would 217 repeat their Michigan picking strategy of, "We can't afford to play against 67?"

I seriously think that none of the powerhouse teams mentioned will end up in the top spot. There are just too many good teams to spread the wealth through the qualifications. Someone is going to end up with a surprise 8-0 or 7-1 record* because they are a good team who got help from some great teams as alliance partners. And other teams will miss a perfect or near perfect run because they came up against tough alliance opponents.

* Or whatever a perfect or one-loss record is - how many rounds of quals?

R.C. 29-07-2009 15:44
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1538 /2753 / 1771

-RC

Akash Rastogi 29-07-2009 15:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rc_cola1323 (Post 868334)
1538 /2753 / 1771

-RC
Me likie. However, I remind people to pick a fourth bot as the back up

R.C. 29-07-2009 15:48
Re: IRI Predictions??
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 868335)
Me likie. However, I remind people to pick a fourth bot as the back up
I just didn't have one at the time, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm??? Still thinking.

sgreco 29-07-2009 15:51
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1114, 2056, 1771, and 2199.

(I'm still unsure if 1114 would pick 2056 or 217)

I'll bet 2199 will be a 4th pick but won't sit out the whole time, they looked good in both their regionals.

I also wouldn't be surprised to see 330 and 67 back together. 330 may not have been at nationals, but they still looked really good all year.

EdwardP 29-07-2009 16:00
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I think it will be 111 and 1114. I don't think that two non-human loading bots like 1114 and 217 will be enough. If that where to happen I'd think that a pair like 47 and 111 would be able to beat them. Also I think the third team will be a wide consistant scorer. Someone mentioned 68, and if they are availible that would be a team that can definitly complete the top aliance. Another team that could do it would be 222. Obviously 67 will still be a factor, but there is the question of wether they can get the driving that they got durring the season. If they do, then as long as they get a good alliance, they are probably the favorite.

Jon Jack 29-07-2009 16:23
Re: IRI Predictions??
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardP (Post 868339)
I think it will be 111 and 1114. I don't think that two non-human loading bots like 1114 and 217 will be enough.
Both 1114 and 217 can human load, just not in the traditional method most people think of when they hear 'human loading'. Instead of having a human player shoot ball in over the top of the driver station, they push balls out through the air lock.

Both of them have auto modes that drive to the corners and the human player in that corner can bowl balls into their pick up systems. On Einstein 217 loaded several times from the corner during teleop and auto.

If you think about it, if you want to play starvation that's the most effective way to load... If a ball doesn't make it into the robot, it's not sitting out on the field as potential points against you, you just push it back into the robot.

EdwardP 29-07-2009 16:44
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Yes, I know but it is a limiting factor, as it can only be done once, at the beginning of a match without risking getting easily pinned and scored on (I'm just going to guess 217 supercell trap wont be a big factor, as i felt good play without supercells as a focus was more effective). Plus it is much easier to shut down that form of human loading by running interference in auto mode.

Barry Bonzack 29-07-2009 17:10
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Code:
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4      3
1. 67, 217, 910, 1902
2. 1114, 2056, 245, 79
3. 222, 111, 868, 1649
4. 68, 71, 2970, 1714
5. 234, 45, 135, 2199
6. 1625, 254, 1503, 1771
7. 2753, 1923, 365, 341
8. 399, 148, 2775, 16



Barry Rule: I refuse to listen to how team 33, 179, 1538, 469, 47, 1732 or any of the other amazing teams should be in any of the above teams place until the accuser creates his or her own full prediction bracket. This also applies for comments like "there is no way team X will fall that far in the draft."

EdwardP 29-07-2009 17:17
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If you haven't seen the video of 47's new robot, they could be a top 3 team, they will not go undrafted.

EricLeifermann 29-07-2009 17:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry Bonzack (Post 868359)
Code:
1      2
 \  1  /
  1-|-2
 /    \
4      3
1. 67, 217, 910, 1902
2. 1114, 2056, 245, 79
3. 222, 111, 868, 1649
4. 68, 71, 2970, 1714
5. 234, 45, 135, 2199
6. 1625, 254, 1503, 1771
7. 2753, 1923, 365, 341
8. 399, 148, 2775, 16



Barry Rule: I refuse to listen to how team 33, 179, 1538, 469, 47, 1732 or any of the other amazing teams should be in any of the above teams place until the accuser creates his or her own full prediction bracket. This also applies for comments like "there is no way team X will fall that far in the draft."
easy to say when you put yourself in the #1 winning alliance......

Akash Rastogi 29-07-2009 17:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricLeifermann (Post 868367)
#1 winning alliance......
Who said anything about winning?:rolleyes:

Nick Lawrence 29-07-2009 17:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry Bonzack (Post 868359)
Code:
1      2
 \  1  /
  1-|-2
 /    \
4      3
1. 67, 217, 910, 1902
2. 1114, 2056, 245, 79
3. 222, 111, 868, 1649
4. 68, 71, 2970, 1714
5. 234, 45, 135, 2199
6. 1625, 254, 1503, 1771
7. 2753, 1923, 365, 341
8. 399, 148, 2775, 16



Barry Rule: I refuse to listen to how team 33, 179, 1538, 469, 47, 1732 or any of the other amazing teams should be in any of the above teams place until the accuser creates his or her own full prediction bracket. This also applies for comments like "there is no way team X will fall that far in the draft."

You don't think that Winnovation and Poofs could topple the #3 seeded alliance? And 1114 would pick 2056 over 111? Or 68 would pick 71 over 254, 1625, 148 or even 2753?

Here's my bracket:


1. 217, 67, 330, 245
2. 1114, 111, 469, 1902
3. 1625, 254, 365, 341
4. 47, 1503, 68, 2775
5. 148, 71, 33, 2970
6. 2753, 2056, 79, 222
7. 234, 45, 1649, 16
8. 399, 1538, 2826, 910

Quarters:

1 beats 8,
2 beats 7,
3 beats 6
4 beats 5

Semis:

1 beats 4,
3 beats 2

Finals:

3 beats 1.

Your champs would be 1625, 254, 365, 341. Diverse!

-Nick

wendymom 29-07-2009 18:09
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Dont rule out an all Florida Alliance.

IKE 29-07-2009 18:44
Re: IRI Predictions??
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardP (Post 868363)
If you haven't seen the video of 47's new robot, they could be a top 3 team, they will not go undrafted.
I've seen it in person. It is a great bot. We will see this weekend how it fairs with some of the best of the best.


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