IRI Predictions??
 

I don't know about everyone else but I am really excited for IRI and I want to know who everyone thinks is going to win. I would love to see 1114, 217, and 148 take home the title but that might be a little bias and a tad unrealistic, so what does everyone else think??

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Could be possible. I would say that combination would be up to 217. They would likely have to draft 1114 1st round, and then pick up 148 as a second pick.

I am going to throw out a combo I would like to see.

67, 47, 68 this could be a very potent mix.

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1538, 1503, 2753 and back up 2199

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I predict a great time and at least one West Coast team winning.

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Agreed- I predict that no matter what the outcome, my team's gonna have a great time. IRI is a stellar event.

That being said, I totally want one of those trophies...

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I like the way you think.

My picks:

Poofs, Wranglers and Cows.

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Don't forget that 1114 was the #2 seed in Midwest (ahead of 217) and #1 seed in Archimedes. I think either one could seed high enough to pick the other. I do agree that 148 would be the second pick.

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Good point. I need to review my Archimedes history.

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I have to agree with you there. Our team is just excited to be going to the event, particularly since this is our first time going. We'll be sure to give it everything we got and if anything turns up as a result, it will be the cherry on top of the whole experience.

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Much fun will be had by all.

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I definitely agree with you, Jason. Karthik and I were talking about a 2008 reunion at IRI. Can't wait!

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1114 / 217 / 148 as an alliance would all be machines one ball output wide; granted they're three of the fastest and they're all close enough to being on par with any power dumper in speed, but the alliance is beatable; barely. That alliance would be where 148 could really shine as they wouldn't be hampered by defense.

217 seeds high and picks 1625 and then grabs 68 in the second round to win the event with triple human player loading, some of the best floor pickup and ball throughput in Lunacy. This counts on 68 falling inexplicably low for the third or so time this season, which could potentially not happen after their oh-so-close run at Championship. (hopefully 1714 could back that alliance up :D)

I'd bet money that 1625 is walking away with a medal.

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148 is not a 'one ball wide' bot... they can do 2 wide...

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You sir, beat me to the punch.

Who really knows? This IS Lunacy after all, and 1114 + 2056 was beat out on Archimedes by the Overdrive Alliance.

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Whoops. Obviously I didn't get to catch a 148 match on Newton Field when they weren't heavily defended. :/

I predict on top of my real prediction that 2039 will be on the winning alliance. Don't let the fact that they're not going to IRI dissuade you. This is LUNACY! Strange things are happening all the time!

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Would 217 repeat their Michigan picking strategy of, "We can't afford to play against 67?"

I seriously think that none of the powerhouse teams mentioned will end up in the top spot. There are just too many good teams to spread the wealth through the qualifications. Someone is going to end up with a surprise 8-0 or 7-1 record* because they are a good team who got help from some great teams as alliance partners. And other teams will miss a perfect or near perfect run because they came up against tough alliance opponents.

* Or whatever a perfect or one-loss record is - how many rounds of quals?

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1538 /2753 / 1771

-RC

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Me likie. However, I remind people to pick a fourth bot as the back up

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I just didn't have one at the time, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm??? Still thinking.

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1114, 2056, 1771, and 2199.

(I'm still unsure if 1114 would pick 2056 or 217)

I'll bet 2199 will be a 4th pick but won't sit out the whole time, they looked good in both their regionals.

I also wouldn't be surprised to see 330 and 67 back together. 330 may not have been at nationals, but they still looked really good all year.

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I think it will be 111 and 1114. I don't think that two non-human loading bots like 1114 and 217 will be enough. If that where to happen I'd think that a pair like 47 and 111 would be able to beat them. Also I think the third team will be a wide consistant scorer. Someone mentioned 68, and if they are availible that would be a team that can definitly complete the top aliance. Another team that could do it would be 222. Obviously 67 will still be a factor, but there is the question of wether they can get the driving that they got durring the season. If they do, then as long as they get a good alliance, they are probably the favorite.

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Both 1114 and 217 can human load, just not in the traditional method most people think of when they hear 'human loading'. Instead of having a human player shoot ball in over the top of the driver station, they push balls out through the air lock.

Both of them have auto modes that drive to the corners and the human player in that corner can bowl balls into their pick up systems. On Einstein 217 loaded several times from the corner during teleop and auto.

If you think about it, if you want to play starvation that's the most effective way to load... If a ball doesn't make it into the robot, it's not sitting out on the field as potential points against you, you just push it back into the robot.

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Yes, I know but it is a limiting factor, as it can only be done once, at the beginning of a match without risking getting easily pinned and scored on (I'm just going to guess 217 supercell trap wont be a big factor, as i felt good play without supercells as a focus was more effective). Plus it is much easier to shut down that form of human loading by running interference in auto mode.

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1. 67, 217, 910, 1902
2. 1114, 2056, 245, 79
3. 222, 111, 868, 1649
4. 68, 71, 2970, 1714
5. 234, 45, 135, 2199
6. 1625, 254, 1503, 1771
7. 2753, 1923, 365, 341
8. 399, 148, 2775, 16



Barry Rule: I refuse to listen to how team 33, 179, 1538, 469, 47, 1732 or any of the other amazing teams should be in any of the above teams place until the accuser creates his or her own full prediction bracket. This also applies for comments like "there is no way team X will fall that far in the draft."

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If you haven't seen the video of 47's new robot, they could be a top 3 team, they will not go undrafted.

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easy to say when you put yourself in the #1 winning alliance......

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Who said anything about winning?:rolleyes:

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You don't think that Winnovation and Poofs could topple the #3 seeded alliance? And 1114 would pick 2056 over 111? Or 68 would pick 71 over 254, 1625, 148 or even 2753?

Here's my bracket:


1. 217, 67, 330, 245
2. 1114, 111, 469, 1902
3. 1625, 254, 365, 341
4. 47, 1503, 68, 2775
5. 148, 71, 33, 2970
6. 2753, 2056, 79, 222
7. 234, 45, 1649, 16
8. 399, 1538, 2826, 910

Quarters:

1 beats 8,
2 beats 7,
3 beats 6
4 beats 5

Semis:

1 beats 4,
3 beats 2

Finals:

3 beats 1.

Your champs would be 1625, 254, 365, 341. Diverse!

-Nick

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Dont rule out an all Florida Alliance.

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I've seen it in person. It is a great bot. We will see this weekend how it fairs with some of the best of the best.

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I will say, the likihood of 234 and 45 hooking up are good, two teams with similar strategies, and they just mesh well together. Will they win, I wish. :rolleyes: But come one folks, it's IRI. The dream alliance could happen with the 4 most winning teams at IRI (I don't know who statistically are the top 4 I would assume 67 is #1). Likewise, it's hard to predict the dark horse who will play outstandingly and earn a win. I would like to see a diverse alliance, west coast, east coast, midwest and south all on the same alliance. Whoever wins will deserve it. IRI doesn't have "lucky" winners, the teams who win are truly the best alliance.

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my Darkhorse: EMS 1649

Still pulling for my teams from the East.:cool: Especially 1771

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Has a team ever gone undefeated at IRI?

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1. Good teams will win
2. Scores will be high
3. Paul will do his best to embarrass Dave by mentioning "stupid rules" at some point.
4. In retaliation, Dave will do his best to embarrass Paul at some point (setting office fires may be a workable theme, but I'm just guessing here)
4. Baker's cult following will reach fever pitch, while Fultz will remain under appreciated ;)
5. Karthik will do something very unique to embarrass himself at some point (and most hope it won't be singing)
6. Raul will look excited at field side at least once (or twice, or ten times)
7. The talent show and Dean Simmons and the Kamen's will be MUCH better attended than the drivers' meeting
8. Fishboy (He'd better be there. For those who disagree, you just don't understand :))
9. MOE will take the field at least once without a battery and/or the robot turned on (sorry Dudek, but that one's for you :))
10. JVN, after a bizarre electrical storm creates an unexplained force filed, will leave the event with a full head of hair.

Carry on, have fun all!!!!

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Quick list. I anticipate a lot of odd pickings.

Alliance 1: 111, 67, 1771, 1649
Alliance 2: 217, 1114, 45, 503
Alliance 3: 2056, 1625, 148, 33
Alliance 4: 68, 47, 868, 2199
Alliance 5: 399, 254, 910, 70
Alliance 6: 71, 1538, 79, 245
Alliance 7: 1714, 2970, 330, 16
Alliance 8: 234, 1503, 222, 1038

Quarterfinals:
1 beats 8, 2 to 0
2 beats 7, 2 to 0
3 beats 6, 2 to 1
4 beats 5, 2 to 1

Semifinals:
1 beats 4, 2 to 1
3 beats 2, 2 to 1

Finals:
3 beats 1, 2 to 1

OP Robotics, Winnovation, Robowranglers, and Killer Bees will take home the gold. Karthik will sing as the sun slips below the horizon and everyone makes their way back home.

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Stop reading my mind about alliances I want D:

The joke I tell people is that 1714 has the most experience as a backup robot of anyone in Lunacy (1st backup bot twice), so people should know that when making Pick number 25-32. Hopefully my team won't fall that far but with this deep of a field it could rather easily be the case. My dream is Alliance Captain; we've made unlikely runs to alliance captainship before, with less-good robots than this one.

Full predictions coming soon from me. 47 is one of my top picks. :D

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Could? Yes. I believe if they played eachother 9 times, it would rubbermatch until one alliance beats the other. At this caliber any team could have a good or bad match, and any alliance could beat any other. That being said, 222 has had matches where they look unbeatable, and 111 is still world champions. I have seen 1649 when a regional in person, and watched 245 score like crazy over webcast. I'll keep the nod to my second seed.

I do believe 1114 would pick 2056 over 111, both teams are amazing. My simulation drafts include a picking bias that pairs teams up that have been successful in the past. I think it is very likely that 67 could pair with 217, 1114 with 2056, 2970 with 79, so on and so forth. If teams already know they have a relationship with another team and know that their communication can win championships, why risk working with teams you are unfamiliar with? Thinking about it, if 222 were third seed and had the choice between 2753 and 111, I don't know why they wouldn't pick 2753.

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I am in the hotel lobby right now, getting ready to leave for IRI. Dudek has a message for you Rich -

"And what color is the Dawgma flagpole?"

(Is your prediction anyway connected to our improvement of your flag?)

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Best of luck and have fun everyone! All of you are going to have a blast!

Especially those NJ and Philly area teams :yikes:

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Ohhhhhh I even forgot that I had to properly thank Bob and others for our green flagpole. I would have made an even worse prediction had I remembered that. My prediction was merely my sick desire to once again see Bob frantically running around the field like he did in the quarters in DC, "We don't have a battery, we need a battery!" It was perhaps his finest professional moment as a mentor and I would never want to let him forget it.

Maybe we'll make a nice maroon and black pre-match checklist for the 365 drive team for the 2010 season that includes these key items:
1. Be sure you have a battery, preferably charged, along with the robot when leaving the pit
2. Be sure the battery is on the robot
3. Be sure the battery we left the pit with that is most likely charged, that is on the robot, has its leads connected firmly to the corresponding leads on the robot (which is also along with us).
4. Be sure that conditions 1-3 are still satisfied when putting the robot on the filed for the match (oh yeah, and go get the controls in the pit NOW if we forgot them)
5. Ensure Kressly is at field side with extra batteries nearby, just in case we fail miserably at 1-4 above :)

In all seriousness, good luck at your first IRI team 365. As I told my team when we took our first trip out there a few years ago, "It's a pleasure to get your tails kicked by the best." ;)

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Try to make a prediction how it will pan out now!


1-980,111,135,222
2-832,2753,1771,179
3-1625,68,469,16
4-217,1114,399,1732
5-254 47 1503, 45
6- 503 71 234
7- 2081 245, 67, 70
8- 2775, 2056, 1538, 148

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Why are only three teams shown for alliance 6?

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I believe 365 is the alliance's fourth team, according to The Blue Alliance's data.

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Somebody tell us who the 4th team is is and we'll gladly put them up.

BTW, Barry was spot on in the QFs.

Predictions for SFs:

1 and 7 (7 is the only one to win with 2 straight, and 3 is a little tired from a 4-match set.)

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I predict that alliance 3 will take it all! ;)

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Hahahaha!

Time to see who wins the prediction game:

Barry is 4/4 in QF, 1/2 in SF, and 0/1 in F.

Novi Hopper is surprisingly good, with two of the teams in the elims on the right alliances, 3 correct alliances in QFs (though not in the number of matches), both advancing alliances in the SFs, and the right alliance winning. Hey, Looking Forward, I found one of your assistants!:p

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Winnovation seeds 1st, picking the HOT team and nabbing Global Agenda Gamers (1771) for their 3rd pick, and goes on to win the event, beating the Cheesy Poofs and Simbotics in the finals (unsure of their 3rd partner, possibly DeWALT).

(those were my predictions before realizing that IRI was going on as I typed this ahaha)

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well.. i was sure 1529 wasn't going to be in finals.... so i had that prediction correct. haha

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yes we where tired... i was having a bit of a nervous breakdown (i was playing as human player and im usually in pits during the season...)

stressful but fun, that's how i would describe it

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I think that is the beauty of IRI. Students have the opportunity to step outside of the box they put themselves in, mentally, and touch other facets of their abilities/attitudes/hidden-even-from-themselves talents.

Off seasons are a great time to explore, experiment, experience, and express. It is very cool.

Just an .02

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thats my favorite part about the offseason my team (1529) and 829 host. We call it CAGE Match. Cards And Goats Exhibition Match. It is a low key event much lesser than IRI. only around 24 teams. The first CAGE was last october and there is another CAGE Match coming up this october. Whats great about offseason events is you can have fun and try your best with out the stress or worry of trying to win. (there shouldn't be stress at a regional either!) But offseason events make it easy for people new to robotics and FIRST to see what is it about. I have noticed at off season events people are at more ease because of the low tension and therefor open up to people. 1529 is going to mentor a team this upcoming year and a few of their new members came to the IRI. The event gave them a great chance to see what goes on at a FIRST competition.

only downside is, if IRI is your first event, the boiler maker regional is slightly boring :D

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Most of your predictions were spot on. MOE did have a battery for every match (but make sure you ask Dudek about the match where the shooter motor was unplugged), and although I didn't see JVN at the end, there were no electrtical sotrms so hair probably didn't appear.

And on another subject, we really enjoyed having Petra from Dawgma as a temporary MOE member.