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EricH 04-03-2010 01:03

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Week 1 drafts are locked at this point in time. Random teams are being issued.

Week 2 has a lot of holes, especially in WPI and Chesapeake. A full listing will some when I have some time. Meanwhile, check your picks on the list and see if you have any issues. Week 2 locks at this time next Wednesday...

Koko Ed 04-03-2010 03:27

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 931252)
Week 1 drafts are locked at this point in time. Random teams are being issued.

Week 2 has a lot of holes, especially in WPI and Chesapeake. A full listing will some when I have some time. Meanwhile, check your picks on the list and see if you have any issues. Week 2 locks at this time next Wednesday...

Thanks for all the hard work you've done, Eric.

EricH 05-03-2010 11:02

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
After combing through the sheet for Week 2, I find that the following events have missing teams selected:

Cass Tech: dodar, 3095; jblay, 3095
Ann Arbor: XaulZan11, 1015
Arizona: Koko Ed, 597; Alex Cormier, 2254; bobwrit, 580; XaulZan11, 580
Florida: jmanela, 1341; Barry Bonzack, 3025
WPI: Alex Cormier, 353; sunger92, 177; RMiller, 2626; TheLoneAsian, 177; Bethany Mc., 353
Chesapeake: Chris is me, 379; Alex Cormier, 3340; Barry Bonzack, 339; XaulZan11, 339; TheLoneAsian, entire alliance
New York City: Barry Bonzack, 3304
Israel: Sunbun, 3420; RMiller, 2231 double-pick

Yes, we do have someone who had his entire alliance drop out of an event. Not good. Chesapeake and WPI are the hardest hit.

dodar 05-03-2010 20:53

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
give me a random for Cass Tech

Vikesrock 06-03-2010 00:37

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
So the easiest way to find winners and losers is by using the final match score. This is what TBA does and I was hoping to just take the win/loss data from there.

The problem with this is DQs. DQs are not directly reported by FIRST so they will still show up as a win using this method. Do we want to do anything about this? Can we?

Koko Ed 06-03-2010 03:37

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 932038)
So the easiest way to find winners and losers is by using the final match score. This is what TBA does and I was hoping to just take the win/loss data from there.

The problem with this is DQs. DQs are not directly reported by FIRST so they will still show up as a win using this method. Do we want to do anything about this? Can we?

Unless someone does top notch searching on the subject I don't think there's anything we can do.

Vikesrock 06-03-2010 23:10

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I'm currently working on getting team scores done for this week's events. I've got 9 done so far, 2 more to go.

Here are the issues I've run into so far:

GA standings are missing.
SD is missing team for WFFA and Dean's List
KC is missing team for WFFA
NJ will wait 'till tomorrow.
ROC is missing team for WFFA and Dean's List
OR is missing team for WFFA

High score is a pain to determine as it is no longer listed as part of the standings.

Jamie Kalb 07-03-2010 00:07

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 932436)
I'm currently working on getting team scores done for this week's events. I've got 5 done so far, 6 more to go.

Thanks Kevin!

And darn you for calling 2 district winners at Kettering. :mad:

Vikesrock 07-03-2010 00:33

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I just posted a paper in CD-Media with the scores done for all events except Peachtree (missing standings) and New Jersey (not done yet) with the WFFA and Dean's List exceptions above (they are highlighted in red in the sheet).

This should allow people to have fun calculating their own scores and guessing where they will shake out.

I'm at 1043 so far this week I believe.

dodar 07-03-2010 07:48

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
OMG! going into the final day of NJ my 3 picks are ranked 1, 2, 3!!!

and in my league, im the only one right now with alliance captains lol

Chris is me 07-03-2010 08:28

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I want to change the win / loss point system now that we've got the serious possibility of teams playing 6v0 matches.

Can the alliance with the most seeding points get the "win"? Tie is still 1 point? Or should I not pick colluders?

*shrugs*

Koko Ed 07-03-2010 08:39

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 932593)
I want to change the win / loss point system now that we've got the serious possibility of teams playing 6v0 matches.

Can the alliance with the most seeding points get the "win"? Tie is still 1 point? Or should I not pick colluders?

*shrugs*

I thought we already agreed to dump the W-L system because it wouldn't work this year.

Koko Ed 07-03-2010 09:09

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 932436)
I'm currently working on getting team scores done for this week's events. I've got 9 done so far, 2 more to go.

Here are the issues I've run into so far:

GA standings are missing.
SD is missing team for WFFA and Dean's List
KC is missing team for WFFA
NJ will wait 'till tomorrow.
ROC is missing team for WFFA and Dean's List
OR is missing team for WFFA

High score is a pain to determine as it is no longer listed as part of the standings.

At FLR the WFA was from 1241
The two Dean's List winners were from 578 and 3015.

Chris is me 07-03-2010 09:46

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 932598)
I thought we already agreed to dump the W-L system because it wouldn't work this year.

Well, I thought we were giving 2 points to whoever gets the Coopertition Bonus. Since there are 6v0 matches galore, the CB winner doesn't matter iether anymore. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Koko Ed 07-03-2010 10:00

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 932615)
Well, I thought we were giving 2 points to whoever gets the Coopertition Bonus. Since there are 6v0 matches galore, the CB winner doesn't matter iether anymore. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Yeah, we may have to change that.
You're most likely gonna see more 6 vs. 0 matches as the season goes on.

Chris is me 07-03-2010 10:19

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I'm trying to think of "creative" ways to preserve the current amount of points for "winners". Right now, 10 matches will get you a #1 seed with around 110 SP. Perhaps divide the SP by 11, multiply result by 2 to assign points? Or some similar algorithm for seed...

Koko Ed 07-03-2010 10:25

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 932633)
I'm trying to think of "creative" ways to preserve the current amount of points for "winners". Right now, 10 matches will get you a #1 seed with around 110 SP. Perhaps divide the SP by 11, multiply result by 2 to assign points? Or some similar algorithm for seed...

Oh geez your using math.
I never touched the stuff myself.:o

Sunbun 07-03-2010 12:21

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SD WFFA is from 696, if I recall.

Dargel1625 07-03-2010 18:47

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WFFA for KC was from 1777 if I remember correctly..

Kpchem 07-03-2010 19:19

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WFFA for OR was given to a mentor who works with both 1510 and their sister team 2898

EricH 08-03-2010 23:01

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kpchem (Post 933076)
WFFA for OR was given to a mentor who works with both 1510 and their sister team 2898

Do you know which team wrote the essay?

Vikesrock 09-03-2010 00:31

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I've added scores for NJ and the WFFA's posted int his thread and fixed a few errors I found.

Right now the Oregon WFFA is listed for both teams.

San Diego is still missing Dean's List

EricH 09-03-2010 00:55

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 934195)
I've added scores for NJ and the WFFA's posted int his thread and fixed a few errors I found.

Did you catch the double EI in Kansas City?

Vikesrock 09-03-2010 00:59

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 934207)
Did you catch the double EI in Kansas City?

Yep, that was one that I noticed. I added a "totals" column at the bottom of each sheet that makes that type of error easy to catch.

GA is still empty and I'm pretty busy the rest of tonight and tomorrow, plus with no standings I'm not sure what we want to do with that one at the moment anyway.

EricH 09-03-2010 01:19

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I'm sure the standings will go up in a few days. We can hold off until then.

Without San Diego (Dean's List), Peachtree (standings), and Oregon (late and I need to be alert tomorrow morning), the current rankings are:

TheLoneAsian 921
Vikesrock 889
Jamie Kalb 854
RMiller 843
Akash Rastogi 818
Koko Ed 805
EricH 783
jblay 763
rocketperson44 753
Bethany Mc. 745
XaulZan11 735
hill 733
Chris is me 724
Alex Cormier 721
Dargel1625 721
dodar 709
Sunbun 664
bobwrit 661
rtfgnow 652
sunger92 620
jmanela 606
Barry Bonzack 557

Someone go tell Barry to get his missing teams figured out--and tell TheLoneAsian to fix that absent Chesapeake alliance, as well as reminding all the folks on that last list I posted that they've got missing teams.

I'll put the full spreadsheet up after I get back to school from the Arizona Regional.

Koko Ed 09-03-2010 06:28

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 934220)
I'm sure the standings will go up in a few days. We can hold off until then.

Without San Diego (Dean's List), Peachtree (standings), and Oregon (late and I need to be alert tomorrow morning), the current rankings are:

TheLoneAsian 921
Vikesrock 889
Jamie Kalb 854
RMiller 843
Akash Rastogi 818
Koko Ed 805
EricH 783
jblay 763
rocketperson44 753
Bethany Mc. 745
XaulZan11 735
hill 733
Chris is me 724
Alex Cormier 721
Dargel1625 721
dodar 709
Sunbun 664
bobwrit 661
rtfgnow 652
sunger92 620
jmanela 606
Barry Bonzack 557

Someone go tell Barry to get his missing teams figured out--and tell TheLoneAsian to fix that absent Chesapeake alliance, as well as reminding all the folks on that last list I posted that they've got missing teams.

I'll put the full spreadsheet up after I get back to school from the Arizona Regional.

Everybody better enjoy the view of Barry at the bottom of the standings.
He won't be there very long.

EricH 09-03-2010 23:49

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
You're right about that, Ed. He's now 2nd from the bottom after I got Oregon scored.

Also, some folks are going to be hurting if they don't change teams out for Week 2.

TheLoneAsian 945
Vikesrock 937
RMiller 934
EricH 930
Jamie Kalb 906
Akash Rastogi 869
Koko Ed 856
Dargel1625 836
jblay 817
hill 815
Bethany Mc. 815
Alex Cormier 809
XaulZan11 791
bobwrit 782
rocketperson44 779
Chris is me 776
dodar 740
Sunbun 729
sunger92 708
rtfgnow 700
Barry Bonzack 653
jmanela 639

Jamie Kalb 09-03-2010 23:51

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Dang. If I had picked 100 when I had the chance and not dropped my last-round pick 2543 at SD, I'd be 109 points higher right now and solidly in 1st place. :mad: 100 and 2543 went for 62 and 85 points, respectively, and my replacements only brought in 38 points total.

EricH 10-03-2010 00:00

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie Kalb (Post 934957)
Dang. If I had picked 100 when I had the chance and not dropped my last-round pick 2543 at SD, I'd be 109 higher right now and solidly in 1st place. :mad: 100 and 2543 went for 62 and 85 points, respectively, and my replacements only brought in 38 points total.

I still haven't gone through SD yet--we're missing the Dean's List teams. If someone was there, and knows which teams the students were on, we'd kind of appreciate it if they could post the teams.

And I've got 1538, 1622, and 668, better known as 146 points.:D

Jamie Kalb 10-03-2010 00:19

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 934960)
And I've got 1538, 1622, and 668, better known as 146 points.:D

Um, I have 668 ... and you're in my league. http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...238#post931238

But I'd be glad to take your 115 instead - they scored 37 points to 668's 24. :rolleyes:

EricH 10-03-2010 00:21

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie Kalb (Post 934970)
Um, I have 668 ... and you're in my league. http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...238#post931238

But I'd be glad to take your 115 instead - they scored 37 points to 668's 24. :rolleyes:

Doggone it, you're right. Means that I've got about 13 more points than I thought in SD...

Vikesrock 10-03-2010 00:25

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 934220)
I'm sure the standings will go up in a few days. We can hold off until then.

I wouldn't hold my breath. The standings from Peachtree last year were never reposted after they disappeared at the end of the event. We managed to get them because SOAP Gameday had them cached (they were up when the event was happening each year).

Jamie Kalb 10-03-2010 00:27

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 934972)
Doggone it, you're right. Means that I've got about 13 more points than I thought in SD...

Does this move you up into 2nd place? Wow... and you're only trailing by 2 points? Me and my big mouth... :rolleyes:

EricH 10-03-2010 00:28

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 934976)
I wouldn't hold my breath. The standings from Peachtree last year were never reposted after they disappeared at the end of the event. We managed to get them because SOAP Gameday had them cached (they were up when the event was happening each year).

If we have to, we might be able to recreate them from TBA. Or put the word out to the folks who were there to see if they can get us the info. (Makes note to self to get someone to note the stuff for Arizona.)

Alex Cormier 10-03-2010 08:39

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
If I have a problem with my lists, I'll take a random from here on out.

XaulZan11 10-03-2010 14:31

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Cormier (Post 935071)
If I have a problem with my lists, I'll take a random from here on out.

Me too, unless I post something (which is doubtful).

Kpchem 11-03-2010 02:47

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 934145)
Do you know which team wrote the essay?

I do not know off the top of my head, but I will try to figure that out in the next couple of days and pass the information on once I know.

Carrington 11-03-2010 15:53

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Unless I post anything i'll take random.

Bethany Mc. 14-03-2010 12:01

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I would also like to take a random team if I am missing one.

ATannahill 14-03-2010 17:00

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Whoever is sorting out the points, I don't think the Rookie Inspiration Award at Cass Tech went to 1718. Do we have any better information?

Vikesrock 15-03-2010 00:46

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 936907)
Whoever is sorting out the points, I don't think the Rookie Inspiration Award at Cass Tech went to 1718. Do we have any better information?

Imagery is also wrong for Cass Tech, for now I've guessed that Imagery was supposed to be 3119.

I've posted the sheet for this week with Israel missing and the two issues listed above.

RMiller 15-03-2010 01:02

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 937190)
Imagery is also wrong for Cass Tech, for now I've guessed that Imagery was supposed to be 3119.

I've posted the sheet for this week with Israel missing and the two issues listed above.

Kevin, 3362 was a finalist, not winner at Wisconsin and 2506 was a finalist as well (they subbed in for 3362 when they broke down).

Vikesrock 15-03-2010 01:07

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RMiller (Post 937194)
Kevin, 3362 was a finalist, not winner at Wisconsin and 2506 was a finalist as well (they subbed in for 3362 when they broke down).

Whoops! Fixed that, I'll post the update sheet now.

Akash Rastogi 15-03-2010 01:11

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 937196)
Whoops! Fixed that, I'll post the update sheet now.

Does the sheet include the total score of each player?

Vikesrock 15-03-2010 01:13

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 937198)
Does the sheet include the total score of each player?

Nope, all I did (and what I did last year as well) was go through each event and tabulate scores for each team.

Eric has been the one taking that data and calculating scores for each player. I plan on adding up my score for the week shortly, I can edit into this post if you want to add up yours and have something to compare it to (note that I was way off when I calculated my score last week)

EDIT: I get 1178 for my score this week with every event but Israel

EricH 15-03-2010 01:14

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 937198)
Does the sheet include the total score of each player?

That's my job... I'll have that up tomorrow, hopefully. Along with the current crop of who has stuff to replace in Week 3... (Like your third St. Louis pick, Akash.)

Akash Rastogi 15-03-2010 01:17

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 937200)
That's my job... I'll have that up tomorrow, hopefully. Along with the current crop of who has stuff to replace in Week 3... (Like your third St. Louis pick, Akash.)

Ah thanks.

EricH 15-03-2010 01:26

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I think the reason you were way off last week was that I didn't run the numbers for the regionals that we're missing data in. That results in everyone's score being lower.

When I get time, I'll try to run down some of that data (SD Dean's List teams; Peachtree standings), unless someone beats me to it.

Edit: With Pitt, Wisconsin, and NYC scored (as the only events without missing teams that I'll have to replace), the scores are:

Code:

Player    Grand total
Vikesrock 1227
Koko Ed    1212
EricH    1203
TheLoneAsian    1203
Chris is me    1177
dodar    1158
Jamie Kalb    1149
Akash Rastogi    1143
jblay    1137
Dargel1625    1125
RMiller    1108
Bethany Mc.    1106
XaulZan11    1077
Sunbun    1044
Alex Cormier    1019
Barry Bonzack    1018
rocketperson44    1012
sunger92    1007
hill    1002
rtfgnow    975
bobwrit    972
jmanela    784

Also, I forgot to tell Vikesrock that the Arizona Regional had 2 12-point matches, both involving 359. The qual match is counted right now (Q42, 12-4, 359, 1798, 3194); QF1-2 ended up 12-4 with 330, 359, and 2403 on the high end, and will be counted for the teams on that alliance that don't already have it as well.

Edit 2: 359 won RCA at Arizona, not 3170. This makes 359 worth 140 for that event...

Vikesrock 15-03-2010 12:40

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 937208)
Also, I forgot to tell Vikesrock that the Arizona Regional had 2 12-point matches, both involving 359. The qual match is counted right now (Q42, 12-4, 359, 1798, 3194); QF1-2 ended up 12-4 with 330, 359, and 2403 on the high end, and will be counted for the teams on that alliance that don't already have it as well.

Edit 2: 359 won RCA at Arizona, not 3170. This makes 359 worth 140 for that event...

I have been counting High Score as quals only, that is the way it was done last year as well as it was taken directly off the standings last year.

I can go back and redo things if we want to include elims for figuring out the high score.

Also, Peachtree standings reappeared at some point so I will score that up and post back when I have the sheet updated.

EricH 15-03-2010 13:04

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Nah, let's leave eliminations out of it if you've been leaving them out. It's only 5 points/team.

Looking forward to getting more events scored...

Vikesrock 15-03-2010 13:17

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Peachtree scoring is done and posted. I posted in the SD regional thread to see if anyone can help with the Dean's List teams, other than that all we are missing is Rookie Inspiration and a confirmation on Imagery from Cass Tech.

EricH 15-03-2010 16:47

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I've seen the teams for SD Dean's List, so I'll put those into the sheet I have downloaded and finish up (other than Cass Tech) ASAP. Probably later tonight, hopefully not too late.

Week 2 scores without Israel and Cass Tech:
Code:

  Player    Week 1    Week 2      Grand total 
Vikesrock    1151    1112      2263   
Akash Rastogi    1199    782    1981 
Chris is me    919    1040    1959   
TheLoneAsian    1121    810      1931 
EricH    1150    743    1893 
hill    950    940      1890 
Sunbun    1001    835    1836   
Jamie Kalb    1116    715    1831
rtfgnow    1013    775    1788
Dargel1625    986    758    1744
bobwrit    918    817      1735
RMiller    1074    661    1735
dodar    903    822    1725
Barry Bonzack    912    809      1721
sunger92    868    846      1714
Bethany Mc.    1009    698    1707
XaulZan11    1025    626    1651
Koko Ed    1010    612      1622
jblay    1048    567      1615
Alex Cormier    943    588    1531
rocketperson44    915    486      1401
jmanela    707    508    1215


Vikesrock 15-03-2010 20:00

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I just caught some errors in at least one event this week. I'll be looking through the others to make sure there aren't more.

At Chesapeake I accidentally marked both 1626 and 1748 as quarterfinalists.

At Wisconsin, I didn't credit 1018 as 13th seed.

At Cass Tech, 2851 was not credited as a semifinalist.

I apologize for the large number of errors this week, I implemented the totals row last week to help me check for things like this, but neglected to actually use it for many of the events as I scored them this week.

EricH 15-03-2010 20:57

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I've removed the errors from scoring. Have you found out the Cass Tech Imagery and Rookie Inspiration winners yet?

Vikesrock 15-03-2010 21:04

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 937602)
I've removed the errors from scoring. Have you found out the Cass Tech Imagery and Rookie Inspiration winners yet?

I haven't even asked anyone/posted anywhere about that one yet.

EricH 15-03-2010 21:23

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Week 3 issues, which y'all have 2 days and a bit to fix:

Detroit: 2145 is not attending (rocketperson44, jblay)
Midwest: 1725 (jmanela) and 3032 (Jamie Kalb, Alex Cormier) are not attending
Boilermaker: 3127 is not attending (Sunbun, Chris is me)
St. Louis: The mess of the week. 1826 (rtfgnow), 1488 (dodar), 1658 (hill, rocketperson44), and 1805 (Alex Cormier) are not attending.
Dallas: 3417 (Ed), 2583 (rocketperson44), and 1642 (Alex Cormier) are not attending
Utah: dodar has a missing 2nd pick, the result of a double-pick.

If you think this week is bad, wait until you see Week 4 and Palmetto...where a double-picked team is not attending.

Oh, and to all participants: Please remember that the Michigan State Championship will be drafting the Wednesday between Week 4 and Week 5.

Sunbun 17-03-2010 02:01

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 937626)
Boilermaker: 3127 is not attending (Sunbun, Chris is me)

2856 for 3127.

ATannahill 17-03-2010 19:35

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Did we ever get a list of awards for the Isreal Regional?

ATannahill 17-03-2010 19:40

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 937626)

St. Louis: 1826 (rtfgnow)

Someone messed up somewhere, I have 1806. My picks are good.

Chris is me 17-03-2010 19:41

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I'd like to petition to completely remove the Israel Regional from the draft, considering how it went down.

Vikesrock 17-03-2010 19:44

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 938855)
I'd like to petition to completely remove the Israel Regional from the draft, considering how it went down.

I actually had the same thought. If an accurate Awards list appears it may be usable, but I think seeding and tournament results are junk and W-L-T probably is as well.

EricH 17-03-2010 20:19

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 938858)
I actually had the same thought. If an accurate Awards list appears it may be usable, but I think seeding and tournament results are junk and W-L-T probably is as well.

I think the same thing. Let's ditch the Israel draft for FF points. Unless Ed thinks otherwise, of course. They threw out an entire day of results...

Alex, I've got the pick changed.

Koko Ed 17-03-2010 20:33

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 938878)
I think the same thing. Let's ditch the Israel draft for FF points. Unless Ed thinks otherwise, of course. They threw out an entire day of results...

Alex, I've got the pick changed.

They haven't even listed the awards for Israel yet.
Who knows if they ever will?
I say drop it.

EricH 18-03-2010 01:36

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
This is your announcement that all Week 3 drafts are locked.

Week 4 issues:

Troy: 3175 (Chris is me, rocketperson44) is missing.
Los Angeles: 3395 (Koko Ed) is missing.
Colorado: 945 (sunger92, bobwrit) is missing.
Hawaii: 473 (dodar, jblay) is missing; Bethany Mc. has a double-pick in 2445.
Boston: 888 (Sunbun, Alex Cormier) and 2849 (jmanela, bobwrit) are missing.
Long Island: 806 (sunger92) and 3017 (jmanela, Chris is me) are missing.
Buckeye: 340 (bobwrit) and 2331 (Chris is me, Alex Cormier) are missing.
Philly: 3348 (jmanela) is missing.
Seattle: 3188 (bobwrit) is missing; Bethany Mc. has a double-pick in 2471.
Palmetto: 1563 (Chris is me, bobwrit), 1616 (Sunbun, TheLoneAsian), 1811 (Koko Ed, sunger92), and 2023 (Chris is me, XaulZan11, and TheLoneAsian) are missing.

It's going to be a long week on the randomizer next week, unless some of the above issues are taken care of. (I know who wants random; I'm just giving them time to respond if they want a non-random team.)

dodar 18-03-2010 08:15

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
i cant find my Hawaii league

EricH 18-03-2010 11:19

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dodar (Post 939089)
i cant find my Hawaii league

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=79498


Week 4 issues remaining:

Troy: 3175 (rocketperson44) is missing.
Colorado: 945 (sunger92, bobwrit) is missing.
Hawaii: 473 (dodar) is missing; Bethany Mc. has a double-pick in 2445.
Boston: 888 (Sunbun, Alex Cormier) and 2849 (jmanela, bobwrit) are missing.
Long Island: 806 (sunger92) and 3017 (jmanela) are missing.
Buckeye: 340 (bobwrit) and 2331 (Alex Cormier) are missing.
Philly: 3348 (jmanela) is missing.
Seattle: 3188 (bobwrit) is missing; Bethany Mc. has a double-pick in 2471.
Palmetto: 1563 (Chris is me, bobwrit), 1616 (Sunbun, TheLoneAsian), 1811 (sunger92), and 2023 (Chris is me, XaulZan11, and TheLoneAsian) are missing.

sunger92 19-03-2010 00:15

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
From now on I'll just replace mine with the next team on the randomizer. Thanks.

EricH 19-03-2010 18:49

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Updated list of Week 4 issues remaining:

Troy: 3175 (rocketperson44) is missing.
Colorado: 945 (sunger92) is missing.
Hawaii: 473 (dodar) is missing.
Boston: 888 (Sunbun, Alex Cormier) and 2849 (jmanela) are missing.
Long Island: 334 (jblay), 806 (sunger92), and 3017 (jmanela) are missing.
Buckeye: 2331 (Alex Cormier) is missing.
Philly: 3348 (jmanela) is missing.
Seattle: 2890 (TheLoneAsian) is missing.
Palmetto: 1563 (bobwrit), 1616 (Sunbun, TheLoneAsian), 1811 (sunger92), and 2023 (XaulZan11 and TheLoneAsian) are missing.

Vikesrock 21-03-2010 02:04

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Initial scoring sheet for this week is up.

Here's what's missing right now:

Boilermaker Day 2 awards
St. Louis WFFA and Dean's List teams
Dallas WFFA Team 1108
Utah WFFA

In Detroit I assumed that the Excellence in Design listed for 67 was supposed to be the Industrial Design. The MI Districts don't give out the Excellence in Design and Industrial Design is blank.

Also, it looks like some teams didn't show up for Detroit that were on the team list.

EricH 21-03-2010 15:50

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
The scores without Utah or St. Louis (missing awards info--WFFA, Dean's List):
Code:

Player          Week 1  Week 2  Week 3  Grand total
Bethany Mc.      1009    853    1110    2972
Akash Rastogi    1199    872    813    2884
Vikesrock        1151    1178    511    2840
Chris is me      919    1163    673    2755
EricH            1150    873    699    2722
TheLoneAsian    1121    864    734    2719
hill              950    1083    652    2685
RMiller          1074    818    770    2662
Barry Bonzack    912    891    845    2648
Jamie Kalb      1116    826    651    2593
rtfgnow          1013    834    687    2534
Koko Ed          1010    724    798    2532
dodar            903    948    618    2469
XaulZan11        1025    761    678    2464
Dargel1625        986    835    571    2392
sunger92          868    933    513    2314
Sunbun          1001    882    426    2309
bobwrit          918    861    510    2289
jblay            1048    632    558    2238
Alex Cormier      943    630    550    2123
jmanela          707    547    677    1931
rocketperson44    915    595    383    1893

List of Week 4 issues remaining:

Troy: 3175 (rocketperson44) is missing.
Hawaii: 473 (dodar) is missing.
Boston: 2849 (jmanela) is missing.
Long Island: 334 (jblay) and 3017 (jmanela) are missing.
Philly: 3348 (jmanela) is missing.
Palmetto: 1563 (bobwrit), and 2023 (XaulZan11) are missing.

The current list is in the usual place at http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2317

Also, as a reminder: The Wednesday after Week 4 has the MI State Championship Draft. Start thinking about who you'd like...

Chris is me 21-03-2010 15:53

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I think we should double the value of Week 2 events. :D

148 saved me this week... Hope my Week 4 picks turned out okay. I forgot what events are going on, and without Looking Forward to tell me what's going on, it's a lot harder to keep up this year!

EricH 21-03-2010 15:59

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 940448)
I think we should double the value of Week 2 events. :D

You don't want me catching you when Utah is scored?:p I've only got 97 points in there, and a pretty devastating 181 in St. Louis...Without the WFFA counted in either, or the St. Louis Dean's List...

BTW, if anybody knows the St. Louis or Utah WFFAs, or the St. Louis Dean's List, say something so I can score those events.

Vikesrock 22-03-2010 00:00

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Utah WFFA was from team 1566

EricH 22-03-2010 12:59

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
One of the Dean's List teams in St. Louis was on 931.

EricH 23-03-2010 19:43

The Issues List
 
List of Week 4 issues remaining:

Troy: 3175 (rocketperson44) is missing.
Hawaii: 473 (dodar) is missing.
Boston: 2849 (jmanela) is missing.
Long Island: 334 (jblay) and 3017 (jmanela) are missing.
Philly: 3348 (jmanela) is missing.
Palmetto: 1563 (bobwrit), and 2023 (XaulZan11) are missing.

Week 4 drafts lock tomorrow night.

Week 5 issues:
Connecticut: 53 (dodar), 594 (sunger92), and 2753 (TheLoneAsian, Bethany Mc.) are missing.
Sacramento: 114 (XaulZan11) is missing.
Toronto: 2200 (Alex Cormier, jblay), 3190 (Chris is me, Dargel1625), 3396 (jblay), and 3161 (sunger92) are missing.
North Star: 525 (jblay, sunger92) will be across the street at 10K Lakes, and therefore, not there.
North Carolina: 2665 (Chris is me) is missing.
Las Vegas: 1251 (dodar), 1836 (Chris is me, Alex Cormier), and 2486 (Bethany Mc.) are missing.
Lone Star: 3745 (Alex Cormier) is missing.

MI State Championship draft: This will be held on Wednesday, March 31, at 7:00 Eastern. Standard format; I'll be running it. Week 5 drafts lock at midnight Eastern that night, so you better make picks you like in that draft. (Hint: Lists are good.)

Vikesrock 24-03-2010 01:04

Re: The Issues List
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 942050)
Toronto: 1310 (Vikesrock)

They still appear on the official team list....

EricH 24-03-2010 01:38

Re: The Issues List
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 942303)
They still appear on the official team list....

Woops! I missed 3190, held by Dargel1625, and got 1310 instead. Editing appropriately.

EricH 25-03-2010 00:07

Re: The Issues List
 
Week 4 drafts are now locked. Not happy with getting random teams? Look at the list below, and see which teams you need to replace.

Week 5 issues:
Connecticut: 53 (dodar), 594 (sunger92), and 2753 (TheLoneAsian, Bethany Mc.) are missing.
Sacramento: 114 (XaulZan11) is missing.
Toronto: 2200 (Alex Cormier, jblay), 3190 (Chris is me, Dargel1625), 3396 (jblay), and 3161 (sunger92) are missing.
North Star: 525 (jblay, sunger92) will be across the street at 10K Lakes, and therefore, not there.
North Carolina: 2665 (Chris is me) is missing.
Las Vegas: 1251 (dodar), 1836 (Chris is me, Alex Cormier), and 2486 (Bethany Mc.) are missing.
Lone Star: 3745 (Alex Cormier) is missing.

MI State Championship draft: This will be held on Wednesday, March 31, at 7:00 Eastern. Standard format; I'll be running it. Week 5 drafts lock at midnight Eastern that night, so you better make picks you like in that draft. (Hint: Lists are good.)

Barry Bonzack 25-03-2010 00:17

Re: The Issues List
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 942952)
MI State Championship draft: This will be held on Wednesday, March 31, at 7:00 Eastern. Standard format; I'll be running it. Week 5 drafts lock at midnight Eastern that night, so you better make picks you like in that draft. (Hint: Lists are good.)

I haven't seen any MI webcasts yet... Should I just assume 67 and 217 are amazing?

Chris is me 25-03-2010 00:56

Re: The Issues List
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry Bonzack (Post 942957)
I haven't seen any MI webcasts yet... Should I just assume 67 and 217 are amazing?

Pick 6-7 and 4-6-9...

EricH 25-03-2010 01:10

Re: The Issues List
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry Bonzack (Post 942957)
I haven't seen any MI webcasts yet... Should I just assume 67 and 217 are amazing?

Is the sky blue? Also see the teams whose strategy raises an uproar: Las Guerrillas and Wings of Fire (469 and 51).

Vikesrock's score sheet is posted at http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2344; I've been using it a LOT for multi-event teams to see if I want to keep them or not. It'll tell you at a glance which team won what...

EricH 28-03-2010 01:43

Re: The Issues List
 
Week 4 is done, so it's time to look forwards to Week 5. I'll be doing the random thing tomorrow or Monday, so if you want a specific replacement, get that in before I go to the lists.

Week 5 issues:
Connecticut: 53 (dodar), 594 (sunger92), and 2753 (TheLoneAsian, Bethany Mc.) are missing.
Sacramento: 114 (XaulZan11) is missing.
Toronto: 2200 (Alex Cormier, jblay), 3190 (Chris is me, Dargel1625), 3396 (jblay), and 3161 (sunger92) are missing.
North Star: 525 (jblay, sunger92) will be across the street at 10K Lakes, and therefore, not there.
North Carolina: 2665 (Chris is me) is missing.
Las Vegas: 1251 (dodar), 1836 (Alex Cormier), and 2486 (Bethany Mc.) are missing.
Lone Star: 3745 (Alex Cormier) is missing.

MI State Championship draft: This will be held on Wednesday, March 31, at 7:00 Eastern. Standard format; I'll be running it. Week 5 drafts lock at midnight Eastern that night, so you better make picks you like in that draft. (Hint: Lists are good.)

Vikesrock 28-03-2010 01:44

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I really don't feel like doing any of the team scoring tonight, I should be able to get it done by tomorrow afternoon sometime.

EricH 28-03-2010 01:48

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 943976)
I really don't feel like doing any of the team scoring tonight, I should be able to get it done by tomorrow afternoon sometime.

Maybe Colorado will be up by then.

I've also found the following missing info: Waterloo Dean's List, Buckeye WFFA and Dean's List, Oklahoma WFFA and Dean's List, Palmetto Dean's List , and we're still missing WFFA and 1 Dean's List from St. Louis.

Vikesrock 28-03-2010 18:57

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I'll be uploading the preliminary sheet for this week in just a moment.

Colorado is missing as final standings and Day 2 awards aren't up. The only other issue that Eric hasn't already pointed out is no Autodesk award for LI, but it may be that is was actually not awarded.

EricH 28-03-2010 19:01

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 944392)
Colorado is missing as final standings and Day 2 awards aren't up. The only other issue that Eric hasn't already pointed out is no Autodesk award for LI, but it may be that is was actually not awarded.

I spotted the LI missing award, but figured the same thing.

CO standings are in the regional thread (unofficial, but close enough), along with some of the selections and results. Not nearly enough to do much with, for now.

EricH 29-03-2010 03:20

Re: The Issues List
 
Week 5 issues remaining:
Connecticut: 53 (dodar), 594 (sunger92), and 2753 (TheLoneAsian) are missing.
Toronto: 3190 (Dargel1625) and 3161 (sunger92) are missing.
North Star: 525 (jblay, sunger92) will be across the street at 10K Lakes, and therefore, not there.
Las Vegas: 1251 (dodar) and 2486 (Bethany Mc.) are missing.

MI State Championship draft: This will be held on Wednesday, March 31, at 7:00 Eastern. Standard format; I'll be running it. Week 5 drafts lock at midnight Eastern that night, so you better make picks you like in that draft. (Hint: Lists are good.)

Scoring status: All the regionals we've got full data on are scored, as is Long Island. We're working on some of the Colorado information.

Palmetto Dean's List: 2430 and 281 are the teams that got that.

Waterloo Dean's List: 1310 and 1535 are the teams for this event.

EricH 30-03-2010 01:03

Re: The Issues List
 
Week 5 issues remaining after the known random team assignments:
Connecticut: 53 (dodar) is missing.
Toronto: 3190 (Dargel1625) is missing.
10K Lakes: 3197 (XaulZan11) is missing.
Las Vegas: 1251 (dodar) is missing.

MI State Championship draft: Wednesday, 7:00PM Eastern. Team list is on the FIRST site and still being filled. If it's full tomorrow night, I'll get the random list out then. (Last I checked, 49/64 slots were full.)

Scoring status: I've gotten Dean's List info for Palmetto and Waterloo; still waiting on Buckeye and Oklahoma City Dean's List and WFFA. I've also got a request in for that in St. Louis. Will post the sheet when I've got another couple events or so.

Palmetto Dean's List: 2430, 281
Waterloo Dean's List: 1310, 1535

Special Note: Sacramento starts earlier than the other events, so it'll lock tomorrow night at midnight. All other events will lock at the normal time.

Koko Ed 30-03-2010 02:30

Re: The Issues List
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 945523)

MI State Championship draft: Wednesday, 7:00PM Eastern. Team list is on the FIRST site and still being filled. If it's full tomorrow night, I'll get the random list out then. (Last I checked, 49/64 slots were full.)

I think there are only supposed to be 49 teams for the Michigan State championships this time around (much more reasonable in my opinion. There wasn't enough room in that building for 64 teams).

ATannahill 30-03-2010 10:08

Re: The Issues List
 
I'm guessing Colorado is still missing.

EricH 30-03-2010 11:25

Re: The Issues List
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 945609)
I'm guessing Colorado is still missing.

Yep. All we've got is a partial eliminations list, the standings, and the Day 1 awards. (See the Colorado Regional thread.)

Ed, I looked up the number that was supposed to be there according to FiM. It's 64 in their documentation. Unless they're largely operating under last year's, I'll expect 64 teams to be there--49 barely covers winners at the district events. (As in, 42 win-your-way and 7 points qualifiers, if there are no repeats.)

Edit: I just looked, and MSC is up to 59 teams. 5 more, and the tiers and random list get released.

ATannahill 30-03-2010 17:57

Re: The Issues List
 
The Colorado information is now up.

EricH 30-03-2010 18:14

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Unless you count the elimination rounds, that is...

EricH 30-03-2010 23:35

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
All right, folks, here's the lowdown for the rest of the week:

Sacramento locks in half an hour. (Matches start tomorrow.)

Michigan State Championship drafts tomorrow night at 7 PM Eastern. I'll be running it, so get your lists in when you get the time. I'll get the tiers and stuff like that out tomorrow morning sometime. (Currently, only 61/64 teams are signed up.)

All other lists (including Michigan) lock tomorrow night at midnight Eastern. The remaining issues are:

Connecticut: 53 (dodar) is missing.
Toronto: 3190 (Dargel1625) is missing.
10K Lakes: 3197 (XaulZan11) is missing.
Las Vegas: 1251 (dodar) is missing.

Scoring is still waiting on Dean's List and/or WFFA teams from Buckeye, Oklahoma, and St. Louis, and the eliminations/Day 2 match scores from Colorado. If you know someone who was at those events, please see if they remember those kinds of things--we'd like to make sure that all the teams get the points they deserve. (And, for those of you at events this weekend, please note down that info just in case FIRST doesn't.)

Barry Bonzack 31-03-2010 00:03

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
in DT1 2851 is being scored for both Finals and Semi

EricH 31-03-2010 00:07

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Fixed the score.

Sacramento is now locked.

Vikesrock 31-03-2010 00:08

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry Bonzack (Post 946106)
in DT1 2851 is being scored for both Finals and Semi

:ahh:

I'll go through and check scoring for all the events, that was an error I should have caught.

Vikesrock 31-03-2010 01:09

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
So apparently the Totals row works better when I actually use it :rolleyes:

Washington DC: 116 not credited for Autodesk award
Bayou: 364 not credited for Quarterfinals
Wisconsin: 2506 incorrectly credited with Quarterfinals
Dallas: 2864 should be Semifinalist not Quarterfinalist
Detroit: 903 not credited for Quarterfinalist

EricH 31-03-2010 10:40

MI State Random List
 
With 62 teams out of 64, I figure that if someone finds a team they want that isn't shown as attending, link to their team info page to say they're there.

Random list:
70
3234
2145
33
1528
2337
245
815
3302
123
51
2834
2612
2771
217
2075
548
573
397
226
1243
894
85
830
1023
2960
910
288
2048
2137
27
469
2851
2246
703
247
2054
2474

EricH 01-04-2010 01:40

Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Clang. Click.

That was the Week 5 drafts locking. So, we're home free, right?

Wrong. Once the events are done and the last WFFA/Dean's List winner is tracked down, we'll post up the scores and standings. Then it's time for the big one: The Championship. Date/Time: TBD. Stay tuned

Now, I've got a question on format, and some other folks here do too. Are we going to do:
  1. One big 4-round draft, all teams up for grabs, or
  2. 4 divisional drafts, going to 4 rounds (we can do it, provided that there isn't a sub-88-team division).
This obviously has implications on time set aside and how the random teams list is done.


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