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dodar 01-04-2010 10:42
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
i think we should go by divisions

Akash Rastogi 01-04-2010 11:53
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Divisional

Koko Ed 01-04-2010 18:25
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I want four divisional drafts please.
I think it'll be so cool!

Dargel1625 01-04-2010 18:49
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I think divisional drafts would be much better than one big draft.

bobwrit 01-04-2010 20:20
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
All of the data for Colorado is now up on FIRST's website.

EricH 01-04-2010 20:55
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobwrit (Post 946873)
All of the data for Colorado is now up on FIRST's website.
Yeah, I got it. Should have that one scored in a couple of hours.


Consensus: 4 divisional drafts, 3-4 rounds apiece.

Next question: How many days do we want this to take? We can do 2/day for 2 days, all of them on the same day, or spread them out at 1/day for 4 days, or some other combination. Anybody want to comment on a preferred method?

Jamie Kalb 01-04-2010 21:40
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 946883)
Next question: How many days do we want this to take? We can do 2/day for 2 days, all of them on the same day, or spread them out at 1/day for 4 days, or some other combination. Anybody want to comment on a preferred method?
I kind of like spacing them out and having 1 per day for 4 days, but I'm fine with the other options, too.

dodar 01-04-2010 23:45
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
anything but all 4 in one day lol

Koko Ed 04-04-2010 12:41
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
If the divisions are up I say do a draft on Friday. Two on Saturday and one on Sunday next week and get them over with. Divisions are nothing more than large regionals anyways. It's no big deal.
All we need to do before then is establish the final rankings for the Elgin Clock award and draft order and also rank the teams going to Atlanta before the drafts.

EricH 04-04-2010 13:25
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 947786)
All we need to do before then is establish the final rankings for the Elgin Clock award and draft order and also rank the teams going to Atlanta before the drafts.
And to do that, we'll need the following teams: St. Louis WFFA and 1 Dean's List; Buckeye, 1 Dean's List (WFFA is 379); Oklahoma WFFA and Dean's List; Connecticut, 1 Dean's List.

(St. Louis, 931 has 1 Dean's List; Buckeye, 1014 has 1 Dean's List; CT, 230 has 1 Dean's List).

If anyone knows any of those, please share!

Chris is me 04-04-2010 13:34
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 947798)
And to do that, we'll need the following teams: St. Louis WFFA and Dean's List; Buckeye Dean's List (WFFA is 379); Oklahoma WFFA and Dean's List; Connecticut Dean's List.

If anyone knows any of those, please share!
CT's Dean's List winners were announced, but the teams the students were from were not announced.

EricH 04-04-2010 13:37
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 947806)
CT's Dean's List winners were announced, but the teams the students were from were not announced.
Can you ask around a bit and find the other one? I found the one from 230 just by poking around CD (ditto for the WFFA at that event).

Jamie Kalb 04-04-2010 16:29
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 947798)
And to do that, we'll need the following teams: St. Louis WFFA and 1 Dean's List; Buckeye, 1 Dean's List (WFFA is 379); Oklahoma WFFA and Dean's List; Connecticut, 1 Dean's List.
I believe OKC WFFA went to 1750. Still trying to confirm that...

Vikesrock 04-04-2010 21:43
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamie Kalb (Post 947875)
I believe OKC WFFA went to 1750. Still trying to confirm that...
Not sure if this is where you got it from, but this post seems to link Ron to 1750:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...8&postcount=24

Sheet for this week will be up very shortly.

Missing info for all weeks is what Eric posted a few posts above.

Jamie Kalb 04-04-2010 23:26
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 948055)
Not sure if this is where you got it from, but this post seems to link Ron to 1750:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...8&postcount=24
I asked some people who were there, who gave me Ron Markum's name and thought he was with 1750. I then tried the CD member search for 1750, hoping to find someone who listed team awards in their signature. Instead, I found a certain "ronmarkum." :)

I can now confirm:
OKC WFFA: Ron Markum team 1750

OKC Deans list: Ty Prather team 1750, Johnathan Yarbrough team 2431

EricH 04-04-2010 23:30
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Thanks, Jamie.

I'm working on St. Louis through a 931 alumnus at my college. We'll see what he comes up with in a couple of days.

EricH 05-04-2010 17:22
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
All right, so here's the deal.

I have yet to score St. Louis (1 Dean's List and the WFFA missing) and Buckeye (1 Dean's list missing). If you've got any answers for those, I'd like to know them.

However, some folks are so far ahead of (or behind) the pack that their places aren't gonna change too much.

As such, I've removed the players that have a good chance of changing rankings for now:

Code:
Player          Week 1  Week 2  Week 3  Week 4    Week 5    Grand total
1. Bethany Mc.    1009    853    1246    1230    1302    5640
2. Barry Bonzack    912    891    991    1352    1135    5281
3. Vikesrock      1155    1178    599    1260    814    5006
4. RMiller        1076    818    872    1194    902    4862
5. Akash Rastogi  1199    868    937    950    808    4762
6. hill            950    1083    806    850    935    4624
7.                1121    864    819    786    968    4558
8.                1150    873    796    935    787    4541
9.                1118    826    792    1009    760    4505
10.                903    948    708    1185    710    4454
11.                919    1143    791    1022    536    4411
12.                1025    761    729    1047    735    4297
13.                1013    834    785    932    689    4253
14.                1012    724    898    938    676    4248
15.                986    835    726    962    735    4244
16.                918    861    545    897    953    4174
17.                868    933    656    1016    626    4099
18.                1001    882    560    914    720    4077
19.                943    630    636    1143    644    3996
20.                1048    628    635    1014    669    3994
21. rocketperson44  915    595    467    811    578    3366
22. jmanela        707    547    834    738    447    3273
I think that it is not too early to declare Bethany the winner of the Elgin Clock Award by somewhere in the neighborhood of 330 points.

Remember, your position in this list determines your position in the Championship draft in all four divisions, so we really want to get it right. You can see for yourselves how close some of the players are.

Also, I found the lowest-scoring team of the year. One of the teams in Vegas scored zero points. Two people had them...

Edit: Scoring CT produced little to no change in rankings. 2 drafts left...

Chris is me 05-04-2010 17:26
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
The other CT Dean's List winner was from 177.

dodar 05-04-2010 17:34
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
so does that mean that only those 7 people are doing the Atlanta divisional drafts or is everyone still getting to do them?

Vikesrock 05-04-2010 17:37
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dodar (Post 948650)
so does that mean that only those 7 people are doing the Atlanta divisional drafts or is everyone still getting to do them?
Everyone is still part of the Champs drafts, the removed names are the ones that Eric thinks are likely to shift up or down in the rankings when the last 3 events are added in.

Chris is me 05-04-2010 17:40
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dodar (Post 948650)
so does that mean that only those 7 people are doing the Atlanta divisional drafts or is everyone still getting to do them?
The others are "too close to call".

Koko Ed 05-04-2010 17:44
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 948644)
All right, so here's the deal.

I have yet to score St. Louis (1 Dean's List and the WFFA missing), Buckeye (1 Dean's list missing), and Connecticut (1 Dean's List missing). If you've got any answers for those, I'd like to know them.

However, some folks are so far ahead of (or behind) the pack that their places aren't gonna change too much.

As such, I've removed the players that have a good chance of changing rankings for now:

Code:
Player          Week 1  Week 2  Week 3  Week 4    Week 5    Grand total
1. Bethany Mc.    1009    853    1246    1230    1175    5513
2. Barry Bonzack    912    891    991    1352    1039    5185
3. Vikesrock      1155    1178    599    1260    762    4954
4. RMiller        1076    818    872    1194    814    4774
5. Akash Rastogi  1199    868    937    950    731    4685
6.                  950    1083    806    850    779    4468
7.                1150    873    796    935    696    4450
8.                1118    826    792    1009    702    4447
9.                1121    864    819    786    846    4436
10.                903    948    708    1185    661    4405
11.                919    1143    791    1022    454    4329
12.                1025    761    729    1047    681    4243
13.                1012    724    898    938    633    4205
14.                1013    834    785    932    542    4106
15.                986    835    726    962    594    4103
16.                868    933    656    1016    579    4052
17.                1001    882    560    914    667    4024
18.                918    861    545    897    789    4010
19.                1048    628    635    1014    625    3950
20.                943    630    636    1143    579    3931
21. rocketperson44  915    595    467    811    509    3297
22. jmanela        707    547    834    738    393    3219
I think that it is not too early to declare Bethany the winner of the Elgin Clock Award by somewhere in the neighborhood of 330 points.

Remember, your position in this list determines your position in the Championship draft in all four divisions, so we really want to get it right. You can see for yourselves how close some of the players are.

Also, I found the lowest-scoring team of the year. One of the teams in Vegas scored zero points. Two people had them...
Congrats to Bethy!
I think we may now know who the real brains of the outfit are between Barry and Bethy though Barry closed in fast after a slow start as I had predicted. Who knows what would have happened if there was a sixth week of regionals?

EricH 05-04-2010 17:46
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 948657)
Who knows what would have happened if there was a sixth week of regionals?
Bethany by 300 or more, still. That's my guess. Her low lead over him was 60 points after Week 2...

Also, confirming that everyone participates in the Championship draft, but exact order varies by as little as 2 points. 2 points is easy to gain or lose...

The rankings have been updated to reflect CT.

RMiller 06-04-2010 11:24
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 948644)
All right, so here's the deal.

I have yet to score St. Louis (1 Dean's List and the WFFA missing) and Buckeye (1 Dean's list missing). If you've got any answers for those, I'd like to know them.

However, some folks are so far ahead of (or behind) the pack that their places aren't gonna change too much.

As such, I've removed the players that have a good chance of changing rankings for now:

Code:
Player          Week 1  Week 2  Week 3  Week 4    Week 5    Grand total
1. Bethany Mc.    1009    853    1246    1230    1302    5640
2. Barry Bonzack    912    891    991    1352    1135    5281
3. Vikesrock      1155    1178    599    1260    814    5006
4. RMiller        1076    818    872    1194    902    4862
5. Akash Rastogi  1199    868    937    950    808    4762
6. hill            950    1083    806    850    935    4624
7.                1121    864    819    786    968    4558
8.                1150    873    796    935    787    4541
9.                1118    826    792    1009    760    4505
10.                903    948    708    1185    710    4454
11.                919    1143    791    1022    536    4411
12.                1025    761    729    1047    735    4297
13.                1013    834    785    932    689    4253
14.                1012    724    898    938    676    4248
15.                986    835    726    962    735    4244
16.                918    861    545    897    953    4174
17.                868    933    656    1016    626    4099
18.                1001    882    560    914    720    4077
19.                943    630    636    1143    644    3996
20.                1048    628    635    1014    669    3994
21. rocketperson44  915    595    467    811    578    3366
22. jmanela        707    547    834    738    447    3273
I think that it is not too early to declare Bethany the winner of the Elgin Clock Award by somewhere in the neighborhood of 330 points.

Remember, your position in this list determines your position in the Championship draft in all four divisions, so we really want to get it right. You can see for yourselves how close some of the players are.

Also, I found the lowest-scoring team of the year. One of the teams in Vegas scored zero points. Two people had them...

Edit: Scoring CT produced little to no change in rankings. 2 drafts left...
St Louis WFFA looks to be team 1444. See team website/google search of "Roger Seifert" robotics.

Which Dean's List winners are you unsure of? At St. Louis, Elena Wylie is from team 931 and Andrew Amburgey is from team 1094.

EricH 06-04-2010 13:27
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RMiller (Post 949149)
St Louis WFFA looks to be team 1444. See team website/google search of "Roger Seifert" robotics.

Which Dean's List winners are you unsure of? At St. Louis, Elena Wylie is from team 931 and Andrew Amburgey is from team 1094.
I knew about Elena from a 931 alumnus at my college. Didn't know which team Andrew was from, though.

Off to score the event...

RMiller 06-04-2010 14:10
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Still missing who from Ohio? Mr. Bliss?

EricH 06-04-2010 14:16
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RMiller (Post 949250)
Still missing who from Ohio? Mr. Bliss?
I've got WFFA (Joe Jeswald, 379) and team 1014 having one of the Dean's List finalists. I don't have the other team.

Barry Bonzack 06-04-2010 14:18
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Worst to (almost) first!

Congrats Bethany, why on earth did I convince you to play?

Just had a thought. Does this mean there is no MVP Rookie award this year?


Does everyone feel that letting the top scorers pick first for all 4 championship divisions is fair? What if one division was reverse order, this division could be decided by Bethany.

RMiller 06-04-2010 14:18
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 949256)
I've got WFFA (Joe Jeswald, 379) and team 1014 having one of the Dean's List finalists. I don't have the other team.
Hmm... I am not finding anything at the moment. More looking later. Can you score the event without that Dean's List finalist and see if it could potentially change anything?

EricH 06-04-2010 14:23
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RMiller (Post 949258)
Hmm... I am not finding anything at the moment. More looking later. Can you score the event without that Dean's List finalist and see if it could potentially change anything?
I'll give it a runthrough in a little while and we'll see how the scores fall.

Kellen Hill 06-04-2010 15:22
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I also kinda think it's goofy to have one person get the top choice for every single division. Bethany deserves some sort of advantage for kicking butt during the regional season, but I feel like the top 4 choices might be a little much.

Of course, I won't complain too much if it does work that way since I am somewhat towards the top of the rankings...

EricH 06-04-2010 16:26
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
All right, still missing that Dean's List in Buckeye, but it isn't going to make a difference--nobody's within 4 points of anybody else.

That said, here are the rankings, weekly scores, and total score:

Code:
Player      Week 1  Week 2  Week 3  Week 4  Week 5    Grand total
Bethany Mc.    1009    853    1402    1278    1302    5844
Barry Bonzack    912    891    1159    1380    1135    5477
Vikesrock      1155    1178    712    1388    814    5247
RMiller        1076    818    977    1353    902    5126
Akash Rastogi  1199    868    1007    1071    808    4953
hill            950    1083    920    970    935    4858
EricH          1150    873    981    1023    787    4814
TheLoneAsian    1121      864    908    810    968    4671
Jamie Kalb      1118    826    882    1070    760    4656
Chris is me      919    1143    967    1051    536    4616
rtfgnow        1013    834    927    1101    689    4564
dodar            903    948    765    1217    710    4543
XaulZan11      1025    761    869    1144    735    4534
Koko Ed        1012    724    969    1064    676    4445
Dargel1625      986    835    802    995    735    4353
bobwrit          918    861    638    953    953    4323
jblay          1048    628    810    1157    669    4312
sunger92        868    933    819    1059    626    4305
Sunbun          1001    882    650    983    720    4236
Alex Cormier    943    630    680    1173    644    4070
rocketperson44  915    595    545    893    578    3526
jmanela          707    547    936    770    447    3407
Now, the discussion of what advantage the regular-season winner gets: How about a top-5 pick in every division, except a reverse-order division determined by said winner?

Koko Ed 06-04-2010 16:37
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 949312)
All right, still missing that Dean's List in Buckeye, but it isn't going to make a difference--nobody's within 4 points of anybody else.

That said, here are the rankings, weekly scores, and total score:

Code:
Player      Week 1  Week 2  Week 3  Week 4  Week 5    Grand total
Bethany Mc.    1009    853    1402    1278    1302    5844
Barry Bonzack    912    891    1159    1380    1135    5477
Vikesrock      1155    1178    712    1388    814    5247
RMiller        1076    818    977    1353    902    5126
Akash Rastogi  1199    868    1007    1071    808    4953
hill            950    1083    920    970    935    4858
EricH          1150    873    981    1023    787    4814
TheLoneAsian    1121      864    908    810    968    4671
Jamie Kalb      1118    826    882    1070    760    4656
Chris is me      919    1143    967    1051    536    4616
rtfgnow        1013    834    927    1101    689    4564
dodar            903    948    765    1217    710    4543
XaulZan11      1025    761    869    1144    735    4534
Koko Ed        1012    724    969    1064    676    4445
Dargel1625      986    835    802    995    735    4353
bobwrit          918    861    638    953    953    4323
jblay          1048    628    810    1157    669    4312
sunger92        868    933    819    1059    626    4305
Sunbun          1001    882    650    983    720    4236
Alex Cormier    943    630    680    1173    644    4070
rocketperson44  915    595    545    893    578    3526
jmanela          707    547    936    770    447    3407
Now, the discussion of what advantage the regular-season winner gets: How about a top-5 pick in every division, except a reverse-order division determined by said winner?
I say number one all the way.
She earned it. Why take it away?

RMiller 06-04-2010 16:43
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 949314)
I say number one all the way.
She earned it. Why take it away?
Agreed.

dodar 06-04-2010 21:14
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
How about she gets a 1, 2, 3, 4 vote like that in the 4 divisions but she can pick 1 division to switch the picking fofrom 1-8,8-1 to 1-8, 1-8

and the 1, 2, 3, 4 i mean like: Arch=1, Curie=2 Newton=3 Gal=4 or whatever

Kellen Hill 07-04-2010 00:49
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
It would be odd to have anyone else have a first pick for any of the divisions I suppose, because Bethany was the only one to earn it. I agree with her getting first pick for each division. I am just scared of some of the picks the top players will get.

Bethany Mc. 08-04-2010 07:05
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Thank you thank you! I now feel justified in all those hours and late nights in front of the computer figuring out my pick list was going to be, and all the times I blew my family off for drafts.

Barry I do believe you asked me to join, so that we both did not have lives together. It was a way for us to have fun together. Score!

As for the draft picks I am down with one being in reverse ordr, and I can tell you which one I wouldnt mind switching. I know I earned it, but I would like to share my earnings with you all. I do not mind it one bit!

As this being my first season, I really enjoyed it! Thank you to everyone who has put in countless hours to make this event possible. I am sad to say I will not be in Atlanta, I recieved an award called the New Century Scholar, and I will be recieving the scholarship during Championships. Might I add, it is almost on the complete opposite side of the nation in Seattle, Washington.

I can not wait for next year!

Koko Ed 08-04-2010 17:08
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Divisions are up!
Time to do a draft tomorrow night.
Archimedes looks like a good choice!

RMiller 08-04-2010 17:33
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 950290)
Divisions are up!
Time to do a draft tomorrow night.
Archimedes looks like a good choice!
From Bill's Blog

Quote:
THESE ASSIGNMENTS ARE NOT FINAL. Teams are still dropping out and signing up which continues to cause last minute changes. When the website goes live, you will be able to see the unofficial list here.
For those going to championships (I am not) when do you leave?

From past years, how fluid are the assignments? I guess that is an advantage for not doing all four divisions and rather one entire group.

I really don't want to pick 469 (well, really Bethany or Barry, but I can dream, right?) and then find out they got swapped divisions when someone else picks them up.

EricH 08-04-2010 17:40
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I'm not going to CMP.

I would guess that the absolute latest a draft could be held would be Tuesday night, though--most teams/volunteers travel Wednesday. A few travel Tuesday.

If we run as late as possible, we'd be running two drafts on Sunday, one on Monday, and one on Tuesday. Still doesn't buy us much time.

Let's just go for it, with players checking their own teams on Tuesday night or Wednesday. If a team switches divisions, they'll have time to trade. All trades final Thursday AM when pits open (8:00 AM). (I'd say Thursday at noon, but that gives those that are there a slight advantage.)

Koko Ed 08-04-2010 17:44
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RMiller (Post 950310)
From Bill's Blog



For those going to championships (I am not) when do you leave?

From past years, how fluid are the assignments? I guess that is an advantage for not doing all four divisions and rather one entire group.

I really don't want to pick 469 (well, really Bethany or Barry, but I can dream, right?) and then find out they got swapped divisions when someone else picks them up.
They're on the official site.
That's good enough for me.

Koko Ed 08-04-2010 17:47
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 950315)
I'm not going to CMP.

I would guess that the absolute latest a draft could be held would be Tuesday night, though--most teams/volunteers travel Wednesday. A few travel Tuesday.

If we run as late as possible, we'd be running two drafts on Sunday, one on Monday, and one on Tuesday. Still doesn't buy us much time.

Let's just go for it, with players checking their own teams on Tuesday night or Wednesday. If a team switches divisions, they'll have time to trade. All trades final Thursday AM when pits open (8:00 AM). (I'd say Thursday at noon, but that gives those that are there a slight advantage.)
I'm ;eaving Saturday morning and stopping for the night outside of Cincy then continuing to Atlanta Sunday morning.
I would like the drafts tackled during the weekend to give people time to trade or adjust their rosters as needed.

Vikesrock 08-04-2010 17:47
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RMiller (Post 950310)
I really don't want to pick 469 (well, really Bethany or Barry, but I can dream, right?) and then find out they got swapped divisions when someone else picks them up.
How about if a team switches divisions, the player that owned them in the previous tier has 1st shot at them?

Maybe after one person posts a "claim" of the team, give the owner in the other division 24 hours or until teams lock, whichever comes first to "contest the claim". If the claim is contested the player that owned them in their original division gets the team?

EricH 08-04-2010 18:27
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 950327)
How about if a team switches divisions, the player that owned them in the previous tier has 1st shot at them?

Maybe after one person posts a "claim" of the team, give the owner in the other division 24 hours or until teams lock, whichever comes first to "contest the claim". If the claim is contested the player that owned them in their original division gets the team?
I was thinking the same thing--owner gets shot #1 in the new tier, but if they decline to take it, the team is up for grabs.

Also, the CMP scoring is as follows:


Co-op bonus, 2 points
Loss, 0 points
Tie, 1 point

1st seed, 20 points
2nd-3rd seed, 12 points
4th-8th seed, 6 points
9th-12th seed, 3 points
13th-16th seed, 2 points

5......Quarter finalists - Division
10....Semifinalists - Division
15....Finalists - Division
25....Divisional Winners

40.....Finalists - Einstein Field
50.....Winners - Einstein Field

80.....Chairmans - Nationals
45.....Engineering Inspiration Award - Nationals
25.....Rookie All-Star
20.....Rookie Inspiration
15......Woodie Flowers/Judges
Dean's List: Unknown (at 10 winners, let's not do the WFFA / # recipients routine here.) Suggestion: 8 points

10.......Highest score / Highest Rookie Seed
25 points for a robot based award
10.......for every non-placement award, except previously mentioned
Coopertition Award: Unknown Suggestion: 15 points

Koko Ed 08-04-2010 18:45
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 950365)
I was thinking the same thing--owner gets shot #1 in the new tier, but if they decline to take it, the team is up for grabs.

Also, the CMP scoring is as follows:


Co-op bonus, 2 points
Loss, 0 points
Tie, 1 point

1st seed, 20 points
2nd-3rd seed, 12 points
4th-8th seed, 6 points
9th-12th seed, 3 points
13th-16th seed, 2 points

5......Quarter finalists - Division
10....Semifinalists - Division
15....Finalists - Division
25....Divisional Winners

40.....Finalists - Einstein Field
50.....Winners - Einstein Field

80.....Chairmans - Nationals
45.....Engineering Inspiration Award - Nationals
25.....Rookie All-Star
20.....Rookie Inspiration
15......Woodie Flowers/Judges
Dean's List: Unknown (at 10 winners, let's not do the WFFA / # recipients routine here.) Suggestion: 8 points

10.......Highest score / Highest Rookie Seed
25 points for a robot based award
10.......for every non-placement award, except previously mentioned
Coopertition Award: Unknown Suggestion: 15 points
Sounds good.
Can someone do me a favor and rank the Archimedes teams according to their FF scores this season?

Chris is me 08-04-2010 18:55
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Can we pretend the Coopertition Award doesn't exist? It's pretty redundant / stupid / not very different than #1 seed.

EricH 08-04-2010 18:57
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 950373)
Sounds good.
Can someone do me a favor and rank the Archimedes teams according to their FF scores this season?
Average, total, or high?

Koko Ed 08-04-2010 18:58
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 950381)
Can we pretend the Coopertition Award doesn't exist? It's pretty redundant / stupid / not very different than #1 seed.
It's an award given out.
We'll keep it.
There's four number one seeds to choose from in Atlanta so someone will be the true number one seed.

Akash Rastogi 08-04-2010 19:01
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I can't remember, but were there any changes made to what awards will and won't be given out per division?

EricH 08-04-2010 19:03
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 950384)
I can't remember, but were there any changes made to what awards will and won't be given out per division?
Pretty sure Co-opertition is divisional. That's it.

Vikesrock 08-04-2010 19:03
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 950384)
I can't remember, but were there any changes made to what awards will and won't be given out per division?
Rookie Seed, Finalist and Winner are the only Division Awards listed in the Awards section of the manual

EricH 08-04-2010 19:12
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Ed, would you like that Archimedes team list sorted by average FF score, high FF score, or total FF score?

Koko Ed 08-04-2010 19:14
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 950392)
Ed, would you like that Archimedes team list sorted by average FF score, high FF score, or total FF score?
Average score please.

EricH 08-04-2010 19:16
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
25
341
148
359
604
375
1987
1918
330
33
1124
254
1583
86
1519
118
71
997
1540
1629
1683
1772
3280
1612
2574
234
3256
1515
1111
45
3008
122
3411
3403
3157
1418
1730
1547
3357
2403
3360
190
103
70
1768
1647
1218
358
2062
1
3389
1503
201
3059
1817
180
176
3172
1622
3160
159
2753
1319
1153
2751
155
3196
233
326
527
2854
876
555
41
3025
329
236
1506
1596
2725
269
108
967
540
2420

Koko Ed 08-04-2010 19:25
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 950399)
25
341
148
359
604
375
1987
1918
330
33
1124
254
1583
86
1519
118
71
997
1540
1629
1683
1772
3280
1612
2574
234
3256
1515
1111
45
3008
122
3411
3403
3157
1418
1730
1547
3357
2403
3360
190
103
70
1768
1647
1218
358
2062
1
3389
1503
201
3059
1817
180
176
3172
1622
3160
159
2753
1319
1153
2751
155
3196
233
326
527
2854
876
555
41
3025
329
236
1506
1596
2725
269
108
967
540
2420
Thanks Eric!

EricH 09-04-2010 17:25
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Change in teams: Archimedes: 1241 in at #55 on the random list. 2725 not in any more (was #82). All other teams present and ready.

Akash Rastogi 09-04-2010 17:29
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Any word on finalized dates/times for drafts?

RMiller 09-04-2010 17:30
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 951052)
Any word on finalized dates/times for drafts?
Archimedes is tonight.

Koko Ed 09-04-2010 21:12
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 951052)
Any word on finalized dates/times for drafts?
I'm going to do Curie tomorrow night at 7 which ought to be interesting since I'm starting my trip down to Atlanta but I'm stopping outside of Cincy. Unless my car breaks down in the middle of nowhere, My car or computer crashes or the hotel I booked lied to me and does not provide high speed internet I plan to run Curie tomorrow night.
Anyone care to do Galileo tomorrow and also provide me with the rankings for Curie?

EricH 09-04-2010 21:17
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 951252)
Anyone care to do Galileo tomorrow and also provide me with the rankings for Curie?
Did I hear somebody calling me? I'll go ahead and do Galileo.

Curie rankings:
1114
2345
1732
2775
469
1538
1912
1511
1676
3284
27
624
2992
368
88
2410
171
111
1986
340
291
537
1421
2169
1306
296
931
1398
2612
1251
3186
2667
3405
3230
2557
2252
2337
115
191
573
141
2550
3234
1379
3142
2648
3271
830
3145
597
1764
3207
40
1334
126
138
1033
3299
75
386
832
231
692
816
192
2041
288
48
175
888
1649
2583
440
1126
1747
1980
223
1075
1391
237
388
1350
2865
2449
2630
3339

Note that 2630 and 3339 were in the Israel Regional and therefore had no score.

dodar 09-04-2010 21:23
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
is it the same draft order in all 4 divisions?

EricH 09-04-2010 21:27
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dodar (Post 951264)
is it the same draft order in all 4 divisions?
Yep.

EricH 09-04-2010 21:49
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Galileo sorted list:

1466
1086
2056
1714
230
1696
1717
2016
3138
188
217
2122
1735
1625
1771
694
78
271
100
63
1058
1305
433
2486
365
2130
503
1002
2036
3364
649
3006
2834
1983
228
79
1584
3352
2467
1517
2283
51
379
2990
2429
3204
263
2077
3164
548
56
1261
107
2437
1403
3158
3318
85
3310
2500
3132
1739
2839
348
3381
292
3335
744
2468
1259
1522
1816
900
648
702
2067
68
752
714
1446
2108
1474
1367
957
1577*
1657*

*Israel Regional--no score recorded

EricH 11-04-2010 03:39
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
And here's the list for the last draft of the 2010 FF season, Newton:

1551
67
971
3123
343
1718
1902
1727
525
2377
706
1208
2465
2614
16
1073
2619
20
1592
2341
868
1922
294
910
2638
932
226
117
399
558
3038
1452
3306
585
2265
2506
2415
842
2771
3125
3161
829
801
461
612
337
342
308
1868
3168
102
125
3176
3231
1311
93
486
2102
647
281
3238
533
2164
177
2137
3128
1296
11
2534
668
151
178
116
772
2023
128
2424
2914
2757
120
2895
166
896
2497
2669*
3083*

*Israel--no recorded score

Koko Ed 11-04-2010 07:30
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Tonight Ii will be in Atlanta at my sisters but I have no idea about their internet situation plus I have my computer killing nephew(if there's a virus to be found he will manage to download it to your computer) lurking about.
So who wants to take the hill?

EricH 11-04-2010 15:43
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I'll go for it, seeing as nobody else has stepped up.

EricH 11-04-2010 21:19
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Now that the last draft is over, this is your reminder: the divisional drafts lock Wednesday at midnight, so you have until then to make trades, figure out that your favorite team switched divisions and trade them, and all that sort of thing. Once the deadline passes, the only thing left is to wait for the scores...and watch the matches, of course!

Koko Ed 12-04-2010 12:23
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I need to make awards for the MVP of Fantasy FIRST and the Rookie of the Year.
Can someone with access to the information let me know who was the top rated team and the highest rated rookie?

EricH 12-04-2010 12:49
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 952689)
I need to make awards for the MVP of Fantasy FIRST and the Rookie of the Year.
Can someone with access to the information let me know who was the top rated team and the highest rated rookie?
1114 had 158 in Waterloo, 113 in Toronto, and 105 in Pittsburgh for the top rating (over 359).

Rookie is 3256, 96 in Sacramento (and another 28 in Silicon Valley), over 3123's 90 in DC.

Koko Ed 12-04-2010 13:07
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 952702)
1114 had 158 in Waterloo, 113 in Toronto, and 105 in Pittsburgh for the top rating (over 359).

Rookie is 3256, 96 in Sacramento (and another 28 in Silicon Valley), over 3123's 90 in DC.
I'm hardly surprised by 1114.
So long as they can get a Chairman's in Waterloo they're probably going to keep winning the FF MVP til they take the championship Chairman's home.
I'll have to look up 3256's website to find out what their logo is so I can get their award to them.

RMiller 16-04-2010 13:54
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Matthew Bliss (missing Buckeye Dean's List winner) is from team 2172.

Koko Ed 19-04-2010 03:32
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I think it's safe to say Barry ran away with the championship (341, 469. 217 and 67) but we should probably get it scored anyways to make sure.

Vikesrock 19-04-2010 06:35
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 955146)
I think it's safe to say Barry ran away with the championship (341, 469. 217 and 67) but we should probably get it scored anyways to make sure.
I've got a ton of stuff going on right now, I will not be able to get this in a prompt manner. If anyone else wants to do it they are welcome to go for it. I've just been brute forcing the W-L-T by looking each team up on TBA and looking at their record for the event.

Vikesrock 26-05-2010 00:00
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Finally got a chance to do team scores for Champs. The new sheet will be posted in the usual place shortly.

EricH 26-05-2010 02:24
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
After scoring Newton, Barry is indeed in first... but only by 20 points. Dargel1625 is in second; Chris is me is in third; nobody else has cracked 100 points.

More scoring to come over the next day or two...

EricH 26-05-2010 15:19
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
FYI--Galileo, 1086 had Coopertition and 1577 picked up the second Judges' Award--neither was reflected in the results sheet.

If you think your teams got shortchanged on awards points, say something and we'll look it up to see if we missed something.

Oh, and with Galileo being scored, Barry's lead is down to 1 point--217, 1517, 1584 couldn't match up to Dargel's 1625, 503, 1403.

Vikesrock 26-05-2010 15:25
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Coopertition Awards were not listed anywhere on the website.

It looks like I did miss the judges award for both 1583 and 1577.

EricH 26-05-2010 15:36
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 964024)
Coopertition Awards were not listed anywhere on the website.
That's weird; according to the Manual Section 5, the Coop Awards are supposed to be given out at the Championship. I'm 90% sure I saw it listed on the divisional awards pages the day of the Championship, too.

Current top 3: Barry, 221; Dargel, 220; Vikesrock, 187; Archimedes and Curie are unscored at this time.

ATannahill 26-05-2010 16:00
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 964025)
That's weird; according to the Manual Section 5, the Coop Awards are supposed to be given out at the Championship. I'm 90% sure I saw it listed on the divisional awards pages the day of the Championship, too.

Current top 3: Barry, 221; Dargel, 220; Vikesrock, 187; Archimedes and Curie are unscored at this time.
When I looked a few weeks ago there was only one and it was on the championship/einstein page.

Chris is me 27-05-2010 00:41
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 964025)
That's weird; according to the Manual Section 5, the Coop Awards are supposed to be given out at the Championship. I'm 90% sure I saw it listed on the divisional awards pages the day of the Championship, too.
They were definitely given out for each division. 1086, 2612, and then two others.

Vikesrock 27-05-2010 00:51
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 964107)
They were definitely given out for each division. 1086, 2612, and then two others.
Based on the rankings it should be
Archimedes: 254
Curie: 2612
Galileo: 1086
Newton: 294

EricH 27-05-2010 01:05
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 964110)
Based on the rankings it should be
Archimedes: 254
Curie: 2612
Galileo: 1086
Newton: 294
I'll go ahead and give those 4 the Coop Award points.

This also puts Barry in a 14-point hole, as Dargel had 294. But Barry has 469 and 341 still in his bag of tricks...

EricH 27-05-2010 01:26
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Well, that 14-point hole Barry was in has been eliminated; top 4 are now:

Barry, 342
Vikesrock, 334
Dargel1625, 302
Chris is me, 269

Nobody else is even breaking 200 at this point, with Curie scored. Archimedes should be scored tomorrow.

Chris is me 27-05-2010 02:17
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Well, I did pull Poofs and 201... but something tells me 341 gives Barry the lock.

Koko Ed 27-05-2010 04:28
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 964120)
Well, I did pull Poofs and 201... but something tells me 341 gives Barry the lock.
When you have a world champion ahd a Chairman's award winner on our side you're pretty untouchable.

Vikesrock 27-05-2010 12:24
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 964120)
Well, I did pull Poofs and 201... but something tells me 341 gives Barry the lock.
Yep, I quickly ran through scores for the top 4 and if I did it right, I did manage to keep it close though with less than 15 pts, between us for the Champs total.

Chris gained on Barry but not nearly enough.

Dargel got hammered by Archimedes and is in a distant 4th.

EricH 27-05-2010 14:34
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
And the final results are:

Code:
Player        CMP score    After CMP score
Barry Bonzack    460        5937
Vikesrock        446        5693
Chris is me      412        5028
Dargel1625      348        4701
Bethany Mc.      291        6135
EricH            270        5084
dodar            259        4802
Akash Rastogi    247        5200
Jamie Kalb      233        4889
rocketperson44  215        3741
Sunbun          203        4439
TheLoneAsian    202        4873
RMiller          196        5322
rtfgnow          192        4756
jblay            191        4503
Alex Cormier    187        4257
sunger92        173        4478
bobwrit          172        4495
hill            165        5023
XaulZan11        160        4694
Koko Ed          156        4601
jmanela          141        3548
I included the second column to show just how many points each player had through the entire season. Full sheet will be up shortly.

Koko Ed 27-05-2010 14:57
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 964160)
And the final results are:

Code:
Player        CMP score    After CMP score
Barry Bonzack    460        5937
Vikesrock        446        5693
Chris is me      412        5028
Dargel1625      348        4701
Bethany Mc.      291        6135
EricH            270        5084
dodar            259        4802
Akash Rastogi    247        5200
Jamie Kalb      233        4889
rocketperson44  215        3741
Sunbun          203        4439
TheLoneAsian    202        4873
RMiller          196        5322
rtfgnow          192        4756
jblay            191        4503
Alex Cormier    187        4257
sunger92        173        4478
bobwrit          172        4495
hill            165        5023
XaulZan11        160        4694
Koko Ed          156        4601
jmanela          141        3548
I included the second column to show just how many points each player had through the entire season. Full sheet will be up shortly.
Wow.
I scored below rocketperson44 who didn't make a SINGLE PICK.
I am very depressed right now.:(

Chris is me 27-05-2010 15:57
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 964161)
Wow.
I scored below rocketperson44 who didn't make a SINGLE PICK.
I am very depressed right now.:(
He got some shockingly good random picks in at least one of the drafts, most notably 3138. Plus you picked nearly every Chairman's threat who wasn't 341.

Barry Bonzack 29-05-2010 18:04
Re: [FF]: 2010 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Okay. I'm now going to say it. Worst to first!

Thanks everyone for another enjoyable season. Great work Eric and Ed for running the drafts, and Kevin for helping with the scoring.


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