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So I was thinking about how I have gone through 3 upgrades on my computer in order to run CAD decently. This last upgrade should makes everything run smoothly. :D
But that got me thinking about what everyone else uses to run CAD and how well that works for them. The computer specs for the computer I will be using (when the parts come in...) Windows Pro 64-bit Nvidia Geforce 9800GT Graphics Card 6 gigs DDR3 RAM Quad Core 2.8 Ghz Processor This should run quiet well see as its quiet the step up from the last computer. What does everyone else use, and how well does it work? |
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Similar specs on 3 of my CAD computers:
Pentium 4 Northwood OC'd at 3.6ghz (3.7 isn't fully stable even with my water cooling) Abit ic7 mobo 3 gigs DDR2 Ati 1600xt XP Pro AMD Opteron X2 OC'd at 2.2ghz DFI LanParty mobo 2 gigs DDR2 EVGA GeForce 6800gt XP Pro Most used: Intel i7 at 2.66ghz (just replaced my C2 Quad) Intel dx58s0 mobo 6gigs DDR3 Waiting on my new upgrade card- GeForce 9800gt Booting XP 64x, Vista Ultimate 64x, and Windows 7 (yea yea yea calm down) Sadly, I need a better laptop with a legit graphics card to run any modern software. Pentium M 1.6ghz with 512 ddr. The desktops work great, obviously the quad core is best. |
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At the risk of embarrassing myself, I've been continually upgrading a P4-based computer for the last six years, replacing pieces as they fail, or as technology threatens to pass me by....
Intel Pentium 4 @ 2.8 GHz (Northwood, SL78Y, 130 nm)For anything processor-limited, it will get crushed (especially when pitting its primitive HyperThreading against modern multicore systems in multithreaded tasks). But the rest of the computer is reasonably competitive with modern systems. (Stripped down, the system can boot at up to 3.7 GHz, but it's definitely not stable at that speed.) But despite that, it can handle just about anything CAD-related, at least in Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire 4.0. (However, Inventor 2009 just makes it angry.) To put this in perspective, I've got 5 FIRST robots open in Pro/E, 4 of which are complex sheetmetal designs with hundreds of parts, with 3 being native Pro/E assemblies and 2 being Pro/E assemblies composed of STEP import features. It's using about 727 MB of RAM, and all of the windows are responding normally, and the views render cleanly and animate at a full-motion framerate. In Inventor, I have one robot open; it's using 763 MB on its own, and the views are sluggish, normal view manipulation is occuring at around 10 frames per second, and the UI isn't responding properly. When it comes to CAD in Pro/E my computer shows its age only when regenerating or doing things like structural and thermal analyses (which are processor-bound). The video subsystem is relatively modern, and plenty fast enough for CAD work (though the drivers are probably suboptimal). The main hard drive is fast and reasonably large (a 596 GB, 7 200 rev/min unit). More RAM would be a convenience for multitasking, but isn't a big deal here; in non-CAD use, my RAM usage is often around 1.8 GB—or exactly where it ought to be. Despite that, I'm going to have to replace this computer reasonably soon, mainly to maintain my credibility, but also because I'm leaning toward something that's actually portable. At the moment, I'm looking out for the mobile Core i7s that are due in late September. |
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Win7 RC1 (I havent bothered to upgrade to the actual copy I have through school but will be doing that shortly)
1-TB Drives x2 2 GB DDR2 Ram x4 ATI FirePro 3750 Intel Core2Quad 2.4Ghz 22" Dell Monitor 700W Power Supply Total cost of system: <$1400 shipped including OS Planned upgrades, 3rd HDD to use as the OS drive (meaning OS reinstalls will take 30 minutes TOPS) |
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Heath-Zenith Z51, with an 8086 at 4.77 MHz (with 8087 Math Co-processor), Paradise EGA video, 1 MB RAM using QEMM, 20 MB full height HD, mouse. OS is DOS 6.0 with Norton Commander.
Of course, I'm running AutoCad 1.21 here...:ahh: |
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When considering CAD computers remember that CAD is video intensive so that computers that share system RAM for video will bog down. Depending on the CAD platform you are using, they usually spec minimum video card and video RAM. Follow the manufacturer recommendations or forever be waiting for numbers to crunch in the video RAM, especially during zooms and 3D views. |
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Laptop Specs:
Dell XPS M1530 Core 2 Duo T9300 @ 2.5Ghz 4GB RAM GeForce 8600M GT @ 512MB dedicated 15.4" WUXGA LCD Screen with a ridiculous resolution for a laptop 128GB Solid State Drive, 8x DVD R/W Vista x64 320GB Western Digital Passport, where all of my actual files reside It's fast. It's quiet. It's portabl-ish. It was $1700 with a 3 year warranty. I've done CAD, MatLab simulations, and a couple of games with no issues. I originally wanted a laptop that utilizes the NVIDIA Quadro chip, but alas those were ~$300 more on average and you couldn't add the same features/performance in other areas without massive $$$ upgrades as well. Wasn't there a terminal or programming feature in AutoCad at some point? Something triggered a memory where a friend and I were joking about it and he said he CAD'ed his entire mechanical project with the keyboard faster than the pros at his internship could do with a mouse. |
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Laptop:
Lenovo ThinkPad T61p Core 2 Duo T8300 @ 2.40GHz 4GB of RAM (only shows up as 3GB) Quadro FX 570M @ 256MB dedicated (currently shown as having approx. 1500MB of memory, some borrowed from the system) 15.4" LCD screen running 1680x1050 250GB hard drive Vista Business 32-bit 320GB SimpleTech external drive Bought it just over a year ago, $1500 with a 4 year full coverage warranty. Runs everything I can throw at it program wise, Solidworks, Inventor, and some MatLab. |
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Laptop:
Asus 15.6" Core 2 duo 8600 4 gb RAM GT240 m 1 gb dedicated vram 320gb 7200 rpm hd Windows 7 Desktop: Core i7 920 6gb DDR3 1600 1 TB HD GTX 285 1 GB dedicated VRAM Windows 7 |
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Dang! Some of these would destroy mine in a preformance... Most of them actualy.. Gives me high hopes for mine though. :D
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Here's what I do my CAD on:
Model Name: MacBook Pro Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor Speed: 2.5 GHz Number Of Processors: 1 Total Number Of Cores: 2 L2 Cache: 6 MB Memory: 4 GB I just C+P'd that from the system specs... But yeah, I run all of my CAD inside of a virtual OS (A stripped down, brutalized edition), and it runs well enough that I can make a decent paycheck loaning myself out as a drafting consultant. That being said, I do most work in Solidworks, and every now and then I get an odd client who needs Inventor. Edit: After reading this, it appears I'm one of the few who CAD's on a Mac... Am I really that odd? |
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Alrighty:
Laptop of El doomo: -HP -AMD Turion x2 @ 2.66 GHz -4 Gigs of RAM -Nvidia 8400 -500 GB Hardrive -Windows 7 -RC |
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Not only do you do consulting on a pirated copy of Windows, but you post about it on a public forum? |
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I suppose I should have explained that earlier... I get this response a lot when people see the splash screen on it... |
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In a benchmark i found, 2.2ghz turion can calculate 32 million digits of pi as fast as a 1.2ghz core 2 duo Cinebench rendering a 2.2ghz turion is equal to a 1.8ghz version of your processor (same generation) Ghz means very little now in processors, that race is over. As for my specs 15.4" Macbook Pro (classic not unibody) 2.4ghz Core 2 Duo 4GB DDR2 667mhz 4-4-4-12 8600GT 256MB GDDR3 500GB Harddrive Mac OS 10.6 (Snow Leopard) / Windows 7 RC (Win XP Home SP3 Before that) 3dconnexion Space Navigator PE and VX Revolution Heat isn't really a problem. Long battery life is nice. As is thinness =P. Heat is nice in winter actually, makes my room warmer than rest of the house =P In my room it sits on wire and wood rack i built (using a letter tray =D) that is 6" off the ground. I have used it with 100% cpu usage on my lap, burns when it hits my bare legs due to shorts but never uncomfortable. In OSX check out SMC fan control. I have had my processor at 85C for like 1 hour before mac kicked the fans in. Windows is much faster to kick them in but I think its because graphics card gets more use. |
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I'll have to check out building a little rack, as while I'm at my desk the laptop is sitting off to the side driving my monitor/keyboard/mouse. |
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This is what I whipped up
![]() Wood from garage, wire letter tray is meant to be stackable so the wires work quite nicely for keeping my laptop in place. Whats odd is people always complain about heat in windows, in windows my fans kick in at 80 on the dot, on mac it cooks at 80-85 for a bit then it turns em up. Though right now where im sitting with it on my lap its fine at 50C with lowish cpu usage, streaming music from last.fm and such. So its honestly not that bad. |
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Well, I'm in the middle of a build right now.
Microsoft XP Pro 32 bit Intel C2D E8200 2.8ghz 2 gb RAM Geforce 8600 - 512 mb 640 GB 7200 rpm HDD 20" Acer lcd monitor I also use my laptop for CAD xp home 32 bit C2D 1.6 ghz 2 gb ram Geforce 8600 160 gb hdd 15.4" screen |
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Right now i do my cad on my laptop.
Specs: Core 2 Quad Q9000 4gb DDR3 500gb 7200 rpm hdd 32 gb SSD 2 x GTX 260-m 17" lcd (1440 X 900) |
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I actually havent had any problem with the screen for the most part. My desktop that I use at home is 1440 x 900 on a 19" screen (granted, its obo 3 yrs old). The upgrade to a better screen was like $300 and I thought the money was better spent on the SLI'd vid cards and a bigger HDD.
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2.8Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo 4Gb PC2-6400 RAM 512Mb Nvidia 8800GS 24" 1920x1200 display 750 Gb HDD with 80 Gb Windows partition Razer DeathAdder mouse (only $20 from Wootoff) These specs work just fine for my use in FIRST or for academic college work. But if was ever going to do any serious CAD work, I'd definitely build a custom PC with the best sub-$300 Intel Quad Core i7, at least 6Gb RAM, and the best sub-$300 Nvidia Quadro graphics card. |
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I find myself wishing my 1680x1050 was 1920x1200 all the time...1440x900 seems massive. |
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3132 here
I'm running 3DS Max 2010 on my personal laptop. No problems, rendering is a breeze! Dell StudioXPS 1645 Intel Core i7 Q720 1.60GHz turboboost 2.10GHz 6GB DDR3 RAM ATI Radeon 4670 1GB 500GB SATA 7200RPM ![]() |
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This year most of the teams CADing is done on my computer
Custom Built Antec Skeleton Biostar Tpower x58 motherboard 12GB DDR3 RAM from OCZ Intel i7 920 running stock speeds (currently) Dual nVidia 9800 GTX+ in SLI 3.5 TB storage space. This is a big step up from what we were running last year with 3 year old tablet PC. |
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Desktop custom built by me
Processor: Pentium D 930 overclock to 4.05 ghz on corsair liquid cooling Memory: 3072 mb of OCZ gold + AMPX ddr2 667 at 5-5-5-12T at 2.3V Hard Drive: 320 gb SATA Video Card: ATI HD5970 overclocked to 850 mhz core Monitor: up to 3x 20-22in LCDs (3 as one big screen in eyefinity mode) Sound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy SE Operating System: Windows 7 Motherboard: MSI P7N Platinum Nvidia 750i sli Computer Case: Antec 1000 w/windows in both sides Picture (lol the 5970 barely fits) ![]() |
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Its really hard to measure because I made quite a few small upgrades and cooling tweaks over time.
The most recent upgrade was the 5970 and liquid cooling. which was $650 for the 5970 and $98 for the liquid cooling ($78 for the liquid cooler and $20 for better fans) Surprisingly most of the parts I was actually able to procure by winning online drawings related to the distributed computing project: Folding@Home I got the case, power supply, some of the RAM, fans, and processor for free. But I believe my best guesstimated total of money that I have put into that machine is: approximately $1100 There is approximately $150 or so of parts included in that that I upgraded that are not in the machine also it is important to note that $700 out of the 1.1k was all from my most recent upgrade. |
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1 GB DDR1, 256 MB Nvdia, and a dual core.
It's a school computer, what can I say? My home compy ain't great either. |
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Your cpu is probably acting as a large bottleneck, so I would look into upgrading it (the original post) Got a 24" monitor about a month ago. Nice screen boost. |
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We use our school's computers. P4s with about 2GB RAM. I think some of them might have been upgraded, but the point is we can have a ton of people working on different parts at once.
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I use stream supported applications which are greatly optimized by the card. I like to do a lot of rendering and most rendering I do is heavily gpu accelerated. |
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It surprises me it isn't bottlenecking given that the Pentium 4/D series wasn't that great, I had a 2.8ghz Pentium 4 and it really chugged in lots of encoding and rendering related tasks. Maybe your D is a later architecture that they improved to catch up t the athlons.
i5/i7 is a good jump, I may have to end up upgrading to a desktop as my laptop feels like it chugs at times in inventor with lots of parts. |
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