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Orange camo.

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Oh come on!! Thats not fair! now I'm REALLY scared of team 51!! haha congratulations and best of luck to ya!

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Congrats, and welcome. I'm looking forward to 51 creating a new rich tradition and history of its own, while it maintains the best of what 47 and 65 have always stood for.

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*fishes around for improvised latin quote*

Advola Caelum rursus, O quinquaginta, in tuis avis ignis
(Fly again to the sky, 51, on you wings of fire)

Excellent work guys and see you at comps!

Beat me to it.

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According to Mark McLeod's "Every FRC team ever" spreadsheet, 51 has never competed. It might have been assigned to a team in the Great Renumbering that never competed after the number was assigned. As for a "rookie" team getting an "old number" it has happened before. Wasn't 4 a new team created in 2006 from a group of veteran mentors and students? I don't remember the details, but it is not unprecedented for a new team to get a non-rookie number if there is a good reason for it.

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Yes and no. A two-school team split by schools. Also see 64's split.

(Notes 51 for Fantasy FIRST purposes...)

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Team 4 was a split from Team 22. Teams 39 and 1013 were split from Team 64. It's not uncommon for old numbers to be assigned to new teams that result from a split or merger (as in this case) of a veteran team.

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Congratulations Wings of Fire! Both 47 and 65 have done wonderful things with their programs, and I, like the rest of the FIRST community, am very eager to see what comes out of this merge.

(well, for one, I'm rather jealous of 51's alliance partners :P That's a 4-team superalliance right there. Now all you have to do is capture Andy Baker, and you'd probably be able to win a district on your own :P )

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I have had the privilege to see both teams in action both on and off the field. Both of the teams are inspirations that all teams should look up to. Now instead of 2 teams to watch I am sure that we will have to look much higher as their combined assets, abilities, standards and attitudes will make them so much better. I for one am glad that FIRST did not lose out in this unfortunate closing of schools. Team 51 we will be watching. :eek:

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Best of luck the up coming season but doubt you will need luck that much to be great.


Can we see the logo or has it not been produced yet?

And my friend is making it and won't share it with me...

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I hope to see a presentation at the Championship conferences at some point down the road that discusses how these two teams have been able to merge their team philosophies, leadership styles, and histories to forge this new team. It is very exciting and I, for one, would love to learn from it. What they are doing is making a rich and extraordinary contribution to our FIRST culture. They are deepening its history and helping to develop a blueprint to follow for teams that face difficult and daunting circumstances.

Their team name says it all.

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Congratulations and good luck. I can assume that Kettering Kick off will be you first event together and I hope you do well.

51? Wings of fire? … Sounds like a P-51 Mustang fighter plane.

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So...who gets to coach? :ahh:

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Congrats to both teams. Sounds like a great partnership between the 2 schools. Michigan will have a new force arising for 2010.

I would love to see this as well. The combined histories of these 2 teams is very impressive.

Team 1745 might have a say about that...:)

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I'm sure the sum of 47 + 65 should be much more than 51, so maybe there's a change in units of measurement units as well? :D

Or maybe its Area 51 robotics????

Edit: Now that I think about it, you absolutely have to label your pit as "area 51" .