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Mr.G 12-10-2009 09:34

Re: Registration 2010
 
That sucks that all the Michigan events are full.....We were hoping to get a third event for $500....Looks like no one is going to have a chance at that.

Mark McLeod 12-10-2009 09:42

Re: Registration 2010
 
It's not as bad as it looks for the District events. The initial capacity they've opened up for registration has been filled, but each district has held back 15 slots to allow rookie teams, who typically register later, to get in too.
Unused slots will be turned back to general registration later and you'll have an opportunity to register for a third district event.

Finger Lakes, as an example, looked like it had reserved 20 slots for some reason, before releasing 10 more a few days ago. But based on last year's final registration of 50, they still have 10 slots held back.

Mark McLeod 14-10-2009 22:47

Re: Registration 2010
 
Seattle has finally listed 39 teams registered there.

Up to 1250 teams registered now, about a week ahead of last year's pace.
Already at 75% of the total teams last year.

Mark McLeod 19-10-2009 15:09

Re: Registration 2010
 
The Utah Regional upped their open capacity by 10 more teams.
Similar to what happen with Finger Lakes.

I imagine we'll see more of those capacity increases pretty soon.

Just about at the 80% mark of teams registered last year.
1337 leet!

Mark McLeod 21-10-2009 10:13

Re: Registration 2010
 
DC is now at published capacity.
(3:30pm - Midwest has filled too)
(9am,Oct 22 - Peachtree is full)
(Oklahoma has just one initial slot open)
All three have probably at least 10 slots held in reserve for late registering rookies and waitlist teams that may add on after today, so don't be shy about signing up, even though it looks full right now.

Waitlist teams in Michigan have been moved off the district waitlists.
Expect to see these top out at 40 teams each.
Kettering: 33
Traverse: 33
Ann Arbor: 29
Cass Tech: 26
W. Mi.: 37
Detroit: 28
Troy: 32

Boilermaker add one team off the waitlist.
Boston dropped one, then added one.


Over 1400 teams now (1402).

Registration is ahead of last year at this same time (~9%), but not by last year's margin over the year before that (~15%).

Should have a healthy increase before 2nd regional registration opens tomorrow. Of course after 2nd registration, open capacity will quickly fill up and we won't be able to see where the waitlists stand.

Here are some stats on the eve of the second registration rush.
Some region codes are left to the reader to figure out what country they belong to. :p
Code:

                        Missing from the 2009 Season
  TX          43
  IS          37
  CA          29
  NY          26
  ON          24
  MN          19
  MI          18
  MO          17
  AZ          15
  OH          14
  CO          12
  MA          12
  PA          11
  HI          10
  FL          9
  LA          9
  VA          9
  DC          8
  NV          8
  OK          7
  WA          7
  GA          6
  KS          6
  NJ          6
  NH          5
  OR          5
  IL          4
  MD          4
  CT          3
  IN          3
  SC          3
  AL          2
  BC          2
  ID          2
  ME          2
  NC          2
  ND          2
  NM          2
  QC          2
  WI          2
  AB          1
  AK          1
  IA          1
  KY          1
  MS          1
  MT          1
  MX          1
  PL          1
  RI          1
  TN          1
  UK          1
  UT          1
  VT          1
  WV          1
  WY          1

Code:

            New Teams Gained
  Australia 1
  DC          1
  KS          1
  LA          1
  MT          1
  MX          1
  ON          1
  QC          1
  WI          1
  AL          2
  CO          2
  GA          2
  ID          2
  IS          2
  MD          2
  NH          2
  NV          2
  PA          2
  TX          2
  MO          3
  NC          3
  AZ          4
  FL          4
  IL          4
  MA          4
  NJ          4
  TN          4
  VA          4
  IN          5
  MI          5
  OR          5
  CT          6
  MN          6
  NY          7
  CA          8
  OH          8
  UT          8
  OK          9
  WA          9

Code:

                        Currently Registered
  CA          125
  MI          121
  NY          103
  MN          68
  NJ          59
  VA          54
  WA          51
  OK          50
  TX          50
  IL          46
  MA          44
  PA          39
  FL          37
  MO          37
  CT          36
  OH          35
  ON          34
  IN          32
  OR          28
  WI          28
  AZ          26
  GA          24
  MD          24
  NH          24
  CO          23
  SC          20
  KS          16
  HI          14
  IS          12
  NC          12
  UT          12
  MS          10
  TN          10
  ID          9
  DC          8
  LA          8
  NV          8
  AL          7
  PR          7
  BR          6
  ME          5
  MT          5
  KY          3
  ND          3
  WV          3
  AK          2
  DE          2
  IA          2
  MX          2
  NM          2
  QC          2
  RI          2
  UK          2
  VT          2
  AR          1
  Australia 1
  Brazil      1
  Chile        1
  GE          1
  Netherlands 1
  TK            1
  WY          1


Here's where the Regionals stand as of 9am before 2nd Registration opens at noon. I added an estimate of the unpublished full capacity based purely on last year's attendance (and Philly's last time at Drexel). Traditionally, FIRST makes events hold back 10 slots, but that varies if they expect explosive growth in rookies in a particular area. In my experience these capacity totals are not absolute. Some venues can squeeze in a few more if push comes to shove, but that's completely at the discretion of each Regional Director and FIRST HQ and how the event furniture can be rearranged.
Red simply indicates that the event has reached it's initial published capacity.
Code:

Estimated    Estimated    Original                                                                    Teams
Full              Remaining  Advertised    Regional                                              registered
Capacity      Capacity      Capacity                                                          10/22/2009
                                                      Week 1 (Mar 4-6)                                 
44                10                42                San Diego Regional                                34
65                21                44                Washington DC Regional                        44
48                10                38                Peachtree Regional                                38
44                29                38                Bayou Regional                                      15
61                15                54                Greater Kansas City Regional                46
48                10                38                BAE Granite State Regional                    38
50                16                20+10            Finger Lakes Regional                            34
60                23                54                Autodesk Oregon Regional                      37
61                18                53                New Jersey Regional (Mar 5-7)                43
40                7                  25                Traverse City District                              33
40                7                  25                Kettering Univ. District                            33
                                                      Week 2 (Mar 11-13)                             
54                22                54                Arizona Regional                                    32
64                20                54                Florida Regional                                    44
30                10                26                WPI Regional                                        20
64                51                54                Chesapeake Regional                            13
55                23                53                Wisconsin Regional                                32
66                19                54                New York City Regional (Mar 12-14)        47
38                20                29                Pittsburgh Regional (Mar 12-13)              18
40                14                25                Cass Tech District                                  26
40                10                25                Ann Arbor District                                  30
60                47                60                Israel Regional (Mar 14-16)                      13
                                                      Week 3 (Mar 18-20)                             
47                4                  42                Silicon Valley Regional                          43
54                10                44                Midwest Regional                                  44
35                4                  30                Boilermaker Regional                              31
64                52                54                St. Louis Regional                                  12
54                32                40                Dallas Regional                                      22
30                5                  20+10          Utah Regional                                        25
60                21                54                Virginia Regional (formerly NASA/VCU)    39
40                12                25                Detroit District                                        28
40                3                  25                West Michigan District                          37
                                                      Week 4 (Mar 25-27)                             
30                18                20                Waterloo Regional                                  12
61                27                50                Los Angeles Regional                            34
48                25                38                Colorado Regional                                  23
41                29                30                Hawaii Regional                                    12
53                10                43                Boston Regional                                    43
47                10                37                SBPLI Long Island Regional                    37
59                25                50                Buckeye Regional                                  34
56                3                  54                Oklahoma Regional                                53
44                10                34                Philadelphia Regional                            34
44                29                36                Palmetto Regional                                  15
64                14                64                Microsoft Seattle Regional                      50
40                8                  25                Troy District                                          32
                                                      Week 5 (Apr 1-3)                                 
44                28                35                Sacramento Regional (Mar 31-Apr 1)        16
60                44                54                Greater Toronto Regional                        16
60                34                50                Connecticut Regional                              26
60                22                50                Minnesota 10000 Lakes Regional            38
54                18                50                Minnesota North Star Regional                36
40                21                30                North Carolina Regional                          19
49                37                41                Las Vegas Regional                              12
63                33                54                Lone Star Regional                                30
64                64                64        Michigan State Championship                      restricted


Mr.G 22-10-2009 12:02

Re: Registration 2010
 
Figured it out.

Jim Schaddelee 22-10-2009 12:50

Re: Registration 2010
 
What is the date for registration for a third district in Michigan?

Mark McLeod 22-10-2009 12:58

Re: Registration 2010
 
More events filled up quickly as you'd expect.
Championship only had 24 open slots and they were gone in seconds.

San Diego, Finger Lakes, Greater Kansas, New Jersey, NYC, WPI, North Carolina are all at currently released capacity. If you're already on the waitlist by now, then you'll probably get in to those events.

P.S. Oklahoma and Connecticut are now full too (5pm)

P.P.S Buckeye is full (9pm)

Michigan 2nd event registration should be open, but it won't show up on my out-of-state TIMS selections.

Mr.G 22-10-2009 13:02

Re: Registration 2010
 
I called FIRST and they said Michigan 3rd events will be announced at a later date.

waialua359 22-10-2009 17:59

Re: Registration 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 879285)
More events filled up quickly as you'd expect.
Championship only had 24 open slots and they were gone in seconds.

I didnt understand what was happening with signing up for CMP.
At 6:00am Hawaii time, we tried to get in repeatedly. It kept saying ineligible until about 6:10am, it finally said eligible, at which time we got waitlisted.:confused:
I called FIRST about 6:05am and they said it was probably because the official eligibility sign up was tomorrow.:confused:
I didnt believe it still trying.

Then I called back and said we got waitlisted (eligible). Two weeks ago, they said getting in was based on who paid first, and so on. When I asked, they said that policy got changed back to who signed up first because people complained about not being able to pay on the spot.
Personally, I think the issue went from one complaint type to another. Now, its about who can get through the system faster than others. Hawaii always had a hard time signing up for these situations due to our location. We tried Florida several years ago and couldnt get in for an hour. By the time we got on, we knew why. Everyone that wanted to sign up, already did and filled the regional.
What about teams that are prepared to pay and do what it takes to raise the funds necessary to participate vs who can get on the fastest? :)

Wayne C. 22-10-2009 18:40

Re: Registration 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by waialua359 (Post 879339)
I didnt understand what was happening with signing up for CMP.
At 6:00am Hawaii time, we tried to get in repeatedly. It kept saying ineligible until about 6:10am, it finally said eligible, at which time we got waitlisted.:confused:
I called FIRST about 6:05am and they said it was probably because the official eligibility sign up was tomorrow.:confused:
I didnt believe it still trying.

Then I called back and said we got waitlisted (eligible). Two weeks ago, they said getting in was based on who paid first, and so on. When I asked, they said that policy got changed back to who signed up first because people complained about not being able to pay on the spot.
Personally, I think the issue went from one complaint type to another. Now, its about who can get through the system faster than others. Hawaii always had a hard time signing up for these situations due to our location. We tried Florida several years ago and couldnt get in for an hour. By the time we got on, we knew why. Everyone that wanted to sign up, already did and filled the regional.
What about teams that are prepared to pay and do what it takes to raise the funds necessary to participate vs who can get on the fastest? :)

Glenn- we got wait listed too. That was at 12:01 EDT after waiting for the site to accept me from the jam at 12. I called the offices to be told "well you should work really hard and make a super robot and win your way in". Gee Thanks. Unfortunately FIRST will not release WHERE on the wait list we are so I don't know if it is even possible to get in as spaces open up, and I don't want to risk not having the funds by registering for another regional. I dont know why the list is a big secret.
And frankly I am not really sure I want to make a high priced, rushed trip expedition at the last minute even if we do get in at some point late in the season. The increase in airfares and last minute rush isn't worth it.
Soo- I am going to the team next meeting to suggest we put the money saved on going to Atlanta into another shot out your way next season ; ). I'll just hate to miss playing with all our friends across the country as we do at Nats and we still havent won the Galileo division- the only win we haven't achieved..
Of course if there are still slots open for the Vegas regional we are playing there and expect to have a great time. They know how to have fun at that event.



WC

waialua359 22-10-2009 19:12

Re: Registration 2010
 
That is a good point about showing the wait list. They did in the past, so why not continue? It gives teams info that show how realistic it is to get in.

Our team is already debating whether to use our funds for a 3rd regional vs Atlanta. We cant wait until possibly as late as the Hawaii regional to see if we qualify and then decide how to pay for a Hawaii-Atlanta trip. In 2009, we had already qualified via the CMP EI award and had ample time to plan, raise funds and prepare. The other 3 Hawaii teams that qualified were scrambling big time! Its not like they could drive there. :) :)
We are hoping that our State ROC and BAE will come through again for Hawaii teams that qualify from Hawaii. BAE has been gracious to give each team 5k to attend Atlanta the last two years (10k when we won the CA award in 2008.)

If you guys go to Vegas, see you there. Brother who lives there is getting married that weekend.

Mark McLeod 22-10-2009 19:13

Re: Registration 2010
 
I much preferred the pay-first/play-first method.
It certainly relieved the pressure of logging in at exactly noon to get a chance to play, and it forced teams to plan and fundraise for the next season instead of surviving hand-to-mouth.
The last person to complain to FIRST wins, but I agree with Glenn, such complaints benefit only oneself and just shifts the problem on to other teams.

Wheedling your waitlist chance out of a Regional Director just causes more aggravation for everyone involved.

If we won two weeks before Atlanta we wouldn't go on such short notice.
The stress of that is too much on everyone, unless it's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

David Brinza 22-10-2009 20:08

Re: Registration 2010
 
Team 980 was on the CMP wait list last year. We went to the Las Vegas Regional thinking we had to win to get in. After we lost in the semi-finals, we thought our season was over...

We got an e-mail from FIRST on the Thursday AFTER the regional (April 2) telling us a spot had opened up for CMP. Fortunately, we had the funds available AND our robot had not yet been picked-up by FedEx in Vegas. It was a mad scramble to get travel arrangements and permissions in place, but we made it there.

This year, we'll need to earn our way to CMP.

Pat Fairbank 22-10-2009 20:50

Re: Registration 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by waialua359 (Post 879339)
I didnt understand what was happening with signing up for CMP.
At 6:00am Hawaii time, we tried to get in repeatedly. It kept saying ineligible until about 6:10am, it finally said eligible, at which time we got waitlisted.:confused:

I got burned by this too. I was sitting on the "Add Event" page, continuously refreshing from 11:57 onwards - then had to watch the Championship capacity dwindle as 12:05 rolled by and we were still marked "ineligible". Turns out what I needed to do was to back all the way out to the main TIMS page, then go back into the add event page in order to be recognized as eligible. Hurrah for storing server information on the client side.


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