2010 Finger Lakes Regional
 

Here we go again! 6th Annual Finger Lakes Regional @ RIT's Gordon Field House

Week 1 Regional. Team 340 is really excited to build off of our success last year and keep it going this year. Last year had a lot of Canadian flavor which was awesome. What will FLR bring this year? Only one way to start finding out!!

Who's Coming!?!?!

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mmmmm the big D will always make an appearance at the Finger Lakes Regional. Count me in. I'm "Looking Forward" to it.

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I will be there, probably just volunteering this year. I'm Looking Forward as well.

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team 2228 will be there cant wait

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Team 1640 (sab-BOT-age) will pick this event in our second round. We are going to Philly, since that's our "home" regional, so we snag it first.

Looking forward to playing in the snow!

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Ya Know, you guys can still sign up for the Rochester Off-season competition! http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...threadid=77682

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hey alex how come flr has only 30 teams this year

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Team 188, Woburn Robotics, will once again come south of the border and find out if history repeats its self with Blizzard 11.

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174 will be looking for not only their third FLR win, but their third FLR win, in a row!

And I'll be there volunteeing for something, not sure what yet, but it will be fun.

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That will be fun to have 1640 come to our home turf, since we've been coming to yours for the past two years!

And if you want to come up for Ruckus, I'm sure we can arrange some cheap housing for a small contingent! :)

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Looks like I'll be at my very first FLR as a mentor for team 229. I'm very excited!

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Hmm can you say repeat? That would be awesome. But just working with you guys is awesome too. Looking forward to seeing all of you again.

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I will be there in one form or another. I love the enthusiasm and friendliness of the Rochester regional.

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FLR's capacity just went up to 40 teams.

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Strange, just yesterday I e-mailed the regional director to see if there was a waitlist situation setup because some FLR "regulars" hadn't made the list.

cool.

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I see that FLR has topped out at 40 teams already!

Some out of townees are 63, 188, 217, 291, 316, 610, 843, 1640. Looks like we lost our Canadian influence for the most part, some are still coming. Great to see 217 make the trip back to the Roc!

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Team 1640 (sab-BOT-age) was able to snag one of the few open slots. Sorry to miss Ruckus this weekend but I'm looking forward to coming to the frozen tundra of Central NY in March!

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Looks like another classic FLR is coming up. Lots of pro teams mixed with skilled rookies with great mentors backing them up. FLR is easily the most exciting regional of the early weeks.

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I wouldn't be surprised if they made more room for more teams.
We had 49 teams last year.

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I'm really excited that 217 is coming back to FLR.
I hope you guys have a safe trip up and have a blast!

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Team 610 will be there!

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Go get them team 188

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Team 354 really wants to go!

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You can count me in! I'm looking forward to another awesome year at FLR!

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Wahoo I can't wait either!

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316 the LuNaTeCs are coming and soooo pysched!!!!
Any information about a team social yet? We are thinking of hosting a dance at our hotel! =)

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217 the Thunderchickens are looking forward to a great competition at FLR!! Sounds like Rochester is a lot of fun, even outside the competition! See you all there! :D

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Omg, I'm starting to get really excited for FLR this year. The competition is going to be insane. Start with some good ol' NY teams, throw in plenty of Canadian flavor, mix it with other northeastern powers, and it's gonna be a blast. So many good teams! 191, 1126, 340, 188, 1511, and 217!? (Apologies to all the teams not mentioned here, theses are only the few I can remember off the top of my head). Two teams that captained an alliance to Einstein!?!?!? (1507 and 217). Whoa. It's mind-bottling.

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Team 639 will be there! I am totally stoked for it too!

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Does anyone know if there will be a Webcast?

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Make that 3 teams that captained an alliance to Einstein. 1126 did it in 2004 and in 2006 we were picked in the top 8 and made it to Einstein.

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Team 3157 will be there. We are all very excited for it.

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Nah, because 522 didn't make it to Einstein with the Thunderchickens in 2006.. ;)

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So excited for Finger Lakes Regional!
Just a short safety note…my mom is deaf and at the competitions we all look out for her. Someone will say “Robot coming through” and because she doesn’t hear, she often gets jostled about. Last year we finally pinned a button to her back that states “I am Deaf” and it did seem to help.
In doing my pre-scouting, I see that we are welcoming rookie Team 3162, RoBoComm-X, to the Fingerlakes Regional and they are from a deaf school. Please take a moment and discuss with your teams the importance of not assuming you are being heard when you ask someone to step aside. Thanks and see ya there! :)

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Anyone up for laser tag on Thursday the 4th?

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I think that might be what we're doing. :D I've heard that the laser tag arena is huge. Anyone know around how large it is?

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Laser tag? Did someone say Laser tag??????

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You are not allowed to come and you know why.
Doctors orders!

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Apologies to teams 1126 and 522, I was only involved last year so I didn't know you guys were there too. Either way, the point I was trying to make was the the level of competition is going to be insane. And it will be. Lol.

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Thanks for the Reminder! :)

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I would totally be into that. Last year was awesome. My only conflict is that my sister is going to be coming in on Thursday night to volunteer at FLR, and I don't know how late she will be. I hope she gets here at a reasonable time so she can go taggin' with us.

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:p

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Oh Jeff. You know we will be there, cheering like fools.

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174!! SOO PUMPED! :D Looking forward to working with our winning alliance mates 1507 and 188 again! I'm sure we're going to find a bnch of amazing teams to work with as well.

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Not sure about a webcast but I know that it is going to be locally broadcasted on RIT's station.

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Yes RoBoComm-X are an amazing lot of people. We have the pleasure of sharing Bausch and Lomb's facilities with them and I am sure both our robots will do well thanks to Ron Borden and all of the mentors at Bausch and Lomb.

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Having a deaf team there sounds interesting. Some of our team members have talked about it, and it looks like a good opportunity to practice our sign language (at least for those students who know ASL - for the rest of us, it's a good chance to learn). Does anyone know a good website that gives a crash course in sign language? (Or iPhone/Droid app.) I'd also be particularly interested in learning the signs for things related to robots, which might actually be useful at competition. :D
On a sadder note, 217 will no longer be attending laser tag on Thursday night, or so I've heard. Apparently, too many other teams are doing it, and they don't have enough room for us. I can understand, as we have roughly 70 people we're traveling with, but it's still disappointing. :(
I'll just rely on other teams to hear stories of how great it was. :D

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I remember when team 1991 won rookie all star at BAE.
Half of the members on th eteam were hearing impaired and the audience saluted them with a silents standing ovation.
It was quite inspiring to see.

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FLR will be webcasted. Not sure of the website yet but keep your eye on this thread..... http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...threadid=83599

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I am soooooo sad to be missing FL this year---conflict with another regional. (These planners really need to take my plans into consideration!)

I just hope I can be back next season. See y'all then! Have a good time and compete nice!

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Regarding a crash course in ASL- for newcomers I'd suggest checking out the ABC first

For signs there are a ton of resources online, one for example is: ASL Dictionary

the iPhone App Store appears to have a plethora of applications (most which cost $$), not sure if they're any good though. Can't argue with the internet when it's free :)

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That was the coolest moment ever in FIRST!

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:D i cant believe flr is only two days away. I cannot wait there looks to be so many good bots and i cant wait to compete against every one and good luck to all teams

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I definitely think it'd be a great idea to learn some words that would be useful to teams at competitions. I think its great that everyone is willing to learn a little to help out. I just searched some sites and i didnt see anything that really stood out but im gonna try and put together some phrases for my team. Some things like; "you're being cued" and "help?" i hope i can find some other useful phrases but im not sure, maybe my mom will help me. Can't wait!

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I learned all the swear words!
Does that count?:D

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hi i was just wondering if there was any room left in laser tag and if there is and where it is

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The plan was to simply show up at Laserquest and play.
If you got the time and you got the money then you can go play.

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ok thanks

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Team 610 will once again come to Rochester for FLR. We had a great time last year, and we're sure that this year will be no exception.

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I'll be up for Laser Quest as soon as I'm done with inspections (would be up more for Friday night). Have you figured out a time yet?

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Less than 36 hrs to go! First Weekend out of the gate and ThunderChicks is in the hazous. This should be interesting...

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i'm sooooooo excited

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Laser Quest either Thrusday or Friday will be great for both my sister and I. We just need to hitch a ride.

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What team are they? I only kno da Thunderchickens

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Day One pics form FLR!

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Oh wow. It's already after day one and I have a massive headache. Gonna need a long sleep.

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Good luck to everyone at FLR

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Thank you for the pictures, they completed my day. Too bad i couldn't be there myself. Good Luck to all Teams and more importantly enjoy your time there!

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Qualification Schedule:
MATCH 1:639 3181 2053 3162 843 1585
MATCH 2:2228 63 1559 1591 578 1511
MATCH 3:1765 340 1713 1507 1241 1450
MATCH 4:522 291 1640 191 1551 145
MATCH 5:229 188 3044 211 217 378
MATCH 6:1126 73 3157 3015 2852 1405
MATCH 7:250 316 3173 2340 1518 174
MATCH 8:610 3162 1511 3003 145 188
MATCH 9:1585 1450 3015 73 63 191
MATCH 10:639 1405 2228 217 1518 3173
MATCH 11:1507174 211 522 3181 1126
MATCH 12:578 2340 1551 2852 340 378
MATCH 13:610 229 3003 2053 1559 1241
MATCH 14:1713 1591 3044 316 1640 1765
MATCH 15:291 843 211 250 3157 2340
MATCH 16:3173 578 639 1507 3003 73
MATCH 17:3044 522 340 1551 229 1765
MATCH 18:145 250 1585 1126 1559 1405
MATCH 19:1450 63 291 2053 3162 1518
MATCH 20:1591 2228 378 1241 3157 191
MATCH 21:217 3181 316 1640 610 3015
MATCH 22:1713 843 2852 188 174 1511
MATCH 23:191 1518 639 3157 1559 1765
MATCH 24:522 3173 1507 291 1591 73
MATCH 25:316 145 229 843 2228 1551
MATCH 26:3003 164063 188 1241 250
MATCH 27:211 1511 340 3162 378 1405
MATCH 28:174 3181 3015 1450 3044 2053
MATCH 29:1126 578 1585 1713 2340 217
MATCH 30:610 378 1507 2852 522 316
MATCH 31:639 1450 340 250 1640 211
MATCH 32:3162 2340 1241 3015 1551 1559
MATCH 33:843 578 229 1126 145 1591
MATCH 34:610 1765 217 63 1405 211
MATCH 35:191 3173 2053 1713 3157 188
MATCH 36:2228 1585 73 2852 3044 174
MATCH 37:291 1518 1551 3003 3181 211
MATCH 38:3162 316 1126 3173 1765 1241
MATCH 39:145 174 1713 63 378 639
MATCH 40:843 3003 3044 340 3015 191
MATCH 41:2053 2340 1405 1591 217 1640
MATCH 42:3181 1559 188 3157 522 2228
MATCH 43:2852 73 578291 250 610
MATCH 44:1507 1585 2291450 1511 1518
MATCH 45:217 145 1559340 3181 3173
MATCH 46:188 63 31621126 3044 2340
MATCH 47:1713 1450 250 3003 1591 522
MATCH 48:1241 229 1518 639 610 2852
MATCH 49:191 174 1640 1507 578 1405
MATCH 50:2053 3157 1511 73 1551 316
MATCH 51:1765 1585 378 3015 291 2228
MATCH 52:211 2852 1450 843 3173 1559
MATCH 53:3162 1591 174 610 1126 191
MATCH 54:1405 3157 1640 229 291 1713
MATCH 55:1551 188 378 639 250 1765
MATCH 56:3015 1518 3044 578 522 145
MATCH 57:340 3003 2228 211 1585 316
MATCH 58:217 1241 63 843 3181 73
MATCH 59:1511 2340 145 1507 2053 1765
MATCH 60:3015 1591 188 340 291 174
MATCH 61:1126 1551 63 1450 2228 316
MATCH 62:1559 73 1518 1640 378 1713
MATCH 63:250 3181 191 1511 229 3173
MATCH 64:3157 1507 2852 217 3003 3162
MATCH 65:3044 1405 610 2340 843 639
MATCH 66:578 211 1241 1585 2053 174
MATCH 67:3015 3162 250 1713 2228 1507
MATCH 68:2340 1765 3003 229 174 73
MATCH 69:610 843 522 3173 1585 1640
MATCH 70:1511 1559 291 1551 3044 217
MATCH 71:1405 316 1241 188 578 1450
MATCH 72:2852 1591 191 145 639 211
MATCH 73:2053 1126 340 378 1518 3181
MATCH 74:3157 3173 1551 63 1507 3044

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Good luck to all the competitors, especially to the MAK Team 211 which my brother helps mentor & to Sparx Team 1126 which his high school son is a member of. Match 11 looks like it will be interesting! ;)
MATCH 11:1507 174 211 vs. 522 3181 1126

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I haven't been able to watch the webcast, but can someone confirm that there are a _lot_ of penalties?

Q5 appears to have given 217/211/378 1 seeding point and 6 co-opertition points, which implies that the match result was 3-1 for their opponents, but they lost all their points on penalties?

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Yep, tons of penalties in all the events I've been watching. Mostly for 3" incursion, some for Frame Perimeter violations.

1 Robot can easily incur 3+ violations of the 3" rule if not designed to keep the balls out. Not sure how these robots are passing inspection though with <R19>

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yea where are all these penalties coming from? like is it really that hard to not let a ball get 3" into your robot? where are the fram perimeter violations coming from?

kinda sad to see that the blue side at FLR has only scored 1 point in 6 matches (due to penalties..)

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I'm not positive, but I believe most of the ones I have seen are from trying to hang before the finale, then backing up to reposition a hook.

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Did 217 pull off there hanger??

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Double digits!

217, 145 and 1559 just scored 11 in Q45

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I haven't watched any of the webcast but I see 217 has 4 hanging points. I assume this is the finale bonus? If so, did they put their hanger back on or climb on a ramp-bot?

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They've just had some hanging partners:

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Oh, that makes sense. It also explains why so many teams have hanging points.

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The Hanging Mechanism is still not on 217. Unless their hiding in the pits now (I was one of the last people out of the pits and it was still empty). FLR has been good so far and can't wait to see how tomorrow plays out for all of us. Good Luck to Everyone.

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Qualifications are really fun. Other then the first issue and the last issue, I'd say the entire day went swimmingly.

It is anybody's game. This year's eliminations are going to be the most unpredictable. Even the best alliances can be defeated by good blocking or a bad start to the game. Every second you waste trying to get balls into the goals, the less time you score the second. And it's your next score thats so important.

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A lot of penalties. Tons of robots were getting the ball stuck under them. Even our robot, which was designed to never have that happen, got a couple under in one match when we tried to score along the side wall.
The seeding system is also a little wonky. I know of at least one team that's ahead of us in the rankings, but has only 1 win. They were blown out by so many teams, they had a higher seeding score than others.

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The most common penalty at FLR today was in fact G46 - Ball Penetration. As well as G30s for exceeding the frame perimeter for more than two seconds. Teams have been getting penalties and cards left and right for very simple things written plainly in the manual that shouldn't be a problem. I know it may seem redundant...but MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THE RULES!! :ahh:

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Penalties have been very common this year, kinda like in 08

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Is it just me or does the webcast look like it's being fed from a security camery?? :confused:

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Fun outcome in match 63... someone finally pulled off a six vs zero match.

Match 63
Red final: 0
Blue final: 11

Red seeding points: 12 (blue had a penalty)
Blue seeding points: 11


same thing for me... only tuning in during the matches I really want to see. Kansas has a beautiful feed.

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To all who saw match 63, great match from the alliance of 191, 229, 250, 1511, 3173, & 3181. What a great way to incorporate the weakness of the seeding into a legitimate strategy that helps all teams involved.


Thanks again to all teams involved in the ultimate co-operation match

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I thought last year was the tribute to the moon landing. It feels like we're watching Neil Armstrong take his first steps out there :p

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what happened to the color on the webcast?

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Steve's hair is far less effective in black and white :D

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indeed it is not

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good to see 188 and 610 together again. should be an interesting eliminations. Whats up with the black and white feed??

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:) Excellent idea huh... :P

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During our scouting meeting last night, the idea for the 6v0 match kept coming up. We knew that it wouldn't be the most popular idea, so we made sure to choose a match in which we were playing with some good friends, and the college mentors past teams.
Before the start of the match, all six teams sat down to discuss if we really wanted to try this.
This idea behind this match was not to show off, or to try and be rebelious.
The six teams just wanted to play one match that every team would come away with a great ranking score.

-Andrew Morrison

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This is really turning into a good final: 217, 1551, 174 vs. 188, 610, 191

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Even though I've been out this season building my little 10 month old robot I can't stay way from all the friend in FIRST.

What a great set of Elimination Rounds. Congratulations to 1551,217,174 on the FLR Regional Win.

To 1551 - it was a long time coming and with all the hardships in the past few years you deserved it.

Congratulations to 610,188,191 for a great show and great teamwork shown during all the Elimination rounds- great strategies seen as more than worthy FLR Finalists!

Great job to all the teams and volunteers who attended and made this year's event exciting as always!

Ellery

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First of all, I would like to say good game to 217, 1551, and 174 on their victory at FLR today. It was fun and a good learning experience for Atlanta, such as, don't recycle the wheels from last year by adding tread over the top of them and then trying to use wood screws to attach the gears to them unless you want them to fail (with just the darnedest timing) during the finals.

To be honest, I was surprised that we went as far as we did. I was more surprised when 188 and 610 picked us for an alliance partner during the eliminations, though.

Ahh whatever, onto Atlanta, I say!

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That particular match the highlight of the preliminary matches for me, as well as the rest of the drives team.

It was a good feeling to be working with all of the teams on the field.

Thanks 229, 1511, 250, 3173, and 3181 for a great match!

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Jason, a team like 188 doesn't pick partners without VERY good reasons. 610 wasn't picked just because they were Canadian, and you weren't picked just because you have a low team number, are in the Hall of Fame, and are arguably Rochester's most recognizable team.

From an outside observer, I doubt the alliance would've gotten to the finals without 191's stifling defense and hanging, 610's ability to muscle its way through robots to balls in the midfield and advance balls, or 188's ability to control balls and finish around the net.

It didn't seem like you guys were able to play your best strategy during the finals due to mechanical issues, but from here it looked like you did the absolute best you could given what you had. You should be extremely proud.

It was inspiring to see you guys drive into position and successfully hang, even though you really only had 1 working drive wheel. How you managed that, I will never know - but it was impressive!