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Chris is me 25-10-2009 20:48
Re: Where are You Submitting for Chairmans?
 
Last year, in NYC I believe 2344 won Chairman's as a second year team (could be wrong about that, I barely remember). I know 1714 won EI as a second year team and I would not be at all surprised if 2826 did the same this year, honestly.

(2826 won RAS, not Rookie Inspiration twice)

EricLeifermann 25-10-2009 21:15
Re: Where are You Submitting for Chairmans?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by J93Wagner (Post 879708)
:p I wouldn't worry too much about the Wave since second year teams typically don't win Regional Chairman's.

P.S. I finally figured out where they got their logo/name :)
I've seen 2nd year team win chairmans. Winning chairmans has nothing to do with how long you've been in FIRST. It has everything to do with what you have done while you have been in FIRST and the impact your team has made on its community and the FIRST community as a whole.

And their logo/name for those who don't know is from the city of Oshkosh's logo.
They just added circuitry to the logo of the city's. It is a very cool and clever name.

Justin Montois 25-10-2009 21:28
Re: Where are You Submitting for Chairmans?
 
340 will submit at Finger Lakes.

Tyler Olds 25-10-2009 22:59
Re: Where are You Submitting for Chairmans?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by J93Wagner (Post 879708)
:p I wouldn't worry too much about the Wave since second year teams typically don't win Regional Chairman's.

P.S. I finally figured out where they got their logo/name :)
We will be submitting to our home regional which is WI. I agree that it is rare for a second year team to win, but I am disappointed that my old team has little confidence in us.............

I would look out for team 1306 the badger bots at the WI regional. They helped start several new FLL teams and will be hosting the FLL state competition in December of 2010. They also have some great information for rookie teams about how a competition works and how to do alliance selections.

N7UJJ 26-10-2009 00:32
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While a second year or rookie team does not secondarily have a three year track record, it is still possible for a new team to win a regional Chairman's Award.

Last year, team 2486, the Coconuts, won the AZ CA as a rookie team.

In previous years, they did have a FTC team so they were familiar with FIRST goals and philosophy and they had asked for advice from Falcon Robotics, 842. They have been very active in the northen Arizona community, forming Lego teams and mentoring new FrC teams as well as promoting STEM education in the flagstaff area. They were well prepared for their rookie year and had an awesome Chairman presentation.

I bet it has been a long time since a rookie team gave a Chairman presentation at the championship.

Phil Ross 26-10-2009 00:45
Re: Where are You Submitting for Chairmans?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by N7UJJ (Post 879760)
Last year, team 2486, the Coconuts, won the AZ CA as a rookie team.
Team 2486's rookie year was 2008, they won CA as a second year team...which is still really impressive and they are clearly a team that really has it all together.

Akash Rastogi 26-10-2009 01:07
Re: Where are You Submitting for Chairmans?
 
Note that rookie teams (unless this has changed-i haven't looked at the rules yet) are ineligible for Regional Chairman's anyway. They are eligible for Engineering Inspiration, however.

N7UJJ 26-10-2009 08:08
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Phil and Akash,
You are both correct

Team Number 2486
Team Name The Boeing Company/Southwest Windpower/Arizona FIRST Committee/Northern Arizona University & Flagstaff Unified School District #1 & Coconino High School
Team Location Flagstaff, AZ USA
Rookie Season 2008
Team Nickname CocoNuts
Team Motto GO NUTS!
Team Website www.fusd1robotics.org/chs_robotics/
Team History
Season Year - Event Awards
2010 Arizona Regional
2009 Arizona Regional Regional Chairman's Award, Website Award
2009 FIRST Championship
2009 San Diego Regional
2008 Arizona Regional Judges' Award

Pjohn1959 26-10-2009 08:50
Re: Where are You Submitting for Chairmans?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyler Olds (Post 879749)
I would look out for team 1306 the badger bots at the WI regional. They helped start several new FLL teams and will be hosting the FLL state competition in December of 2010. They also have some great information for rookie teams about how a competition works and how to do alliance selections.
This brings up a good point.

Since when has FLL become a ‘mandatory’ requirement for the Chairman’s Award. It seemed as though last year that the judges were given marching orders from FIRST that the winning team from each regional, had to have something to do with FLL, either by holding a competition or by starting ‘x’ number of FLL teams.

I understand that FLL is the future of FRC, but I also believe that the traditional values of the RCA have been diluted by this drive. I still believe that it is more important for teams to inspire their students to getting their engineering degree, becoming an engineer, and then coming back and mentoring FRC teams. I also see a decline in the influence from the amount of community service that a team puts in.

There is a segment in team 111’s Championship Chairman’s video that shows a student on the team, then later after graduating with her degree, has returned as a mentor to that team. When the announcer says “that team gets it”, that is what the RCA should be about, not how much money you have been able to put in FIRST’s bank account.


Sorry, I had to get that off my chest….

Sunshine 26-10-2009 09:29
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Chris (Moore Robotics)

Thanks for the compliment. Team 2062, C.O.R.E. Robotics will be submitting the Chairman's award in Milwaukee this year.

Our decision was based on the high caliber of teams submitting there. We feel that it would mean all that much more if we were to win. Your team is the team to watch, I could see a 3peat. Moore Robotics does it great and for the right reasons. It really is not about winning the award but doing the tasks for the right reasons.

Fe_Will 26-10-2009 11:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pjohn1959 (Post 879790)
This brings up a good point.

Since when has FLL become a ‘mandatory’ requirement for the Chairman’s Award. It seemed as though last year that the judges were given marching orders from FIRST that the winning team from each regional, had to have something to do with FLL, either by holding a competition or by starting ‘x’ number of FLL teams.

I understand that FLL is the future of FRC, but I also believe that the traditional values of the RCA have been diluted by this drive. I still believe that it is more important for teams to inspire their students to getting their engineering degree, becoming an engineer, and then coming back and mentoring FRC teams. I also see a decline in the influence from the amount of community service that a team puts in.

There is a segment in team 111’s Championship Chairman’s video that shows a student on the team, then later after graduating with her degree, has returned as a mentor to that team. When the announcer says “that team gets it”, that is what the RCA should be about, not how much money you have been able to put in FIRST’s bank account.


Sorry, I had to get that off my chest….
Finally, I completely agree and thank you for posting. How about more credit to teams who add to the stability and sustainability of FIRST and not just the "I started X teams, how many did you start?".

J93Wagner 26-10-2009 12:32
Re: Where are You Submitting for Chairmans?
 
I guess I didn't realize how I sounded when I posted earlier on this thread. I'm sorry to whoever I might have offended with my earlier post.

Kims Robot 26-10-2009 13:38
Re: Where are You Submitting for Chairmans?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Conor Ryan (Post 879186)
A team leader that got his team into the Hall of Fame once told me that winning Chairman's at your 'home' regional (one closest to your school) carries more weight than if you win it somewhere else at the Championship. However, I can't really speak for teams that have already won it.
1511 has won it both at home and away. Home was very sweet because it was our first win (third year), and last year we won at Chesapeake, and to be honest, it was just as amazing... but for different reasons. Home is FLR, and usually week 1/2, our away is generally week 3/4/5. Submitting away allowed us to have more fun at FLR and relax a bit, and it allowed us to compete with a whole new set of teams.

I think its amazing either way, and would encourage teams to try both (obviously different years) if they have the option, and it makes sense for their sponsor/school.

Im not certain 1511 has decided at all, as its up to the kids, and we usually wait until the new kids have settled in to really decide. But it will be fun either way :)

Akash Rastogi 26-10-2009 23:19
Re: Where are You Submitting for Chairmans?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kims Robot (Post 879854)
Im not certain 1511 has decided at all, as its up to the kids, and we usually wait until the new kids have settled in to really decide. But it will be fun either way :)
1511? At Boston? Ooo this'll be tough. :cool:

DonRotolo 28-10-2009 20:29
Re: Where are You Submitting for Chairmans?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pjohn1959 (Post 879790)
Since when has FLL become a ‘mandatory’ requirement for the Chairman’s Award. It seemed as though last year that the judges were given marching orders...
From the information provided, it seems that "since when" is last year.

Not being a judge, I can't say if this is true or not. I'd like some independent corroboration before I react. Rumors are never true.


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