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gallo26 04-10-2009 23:18

pic: 6 Wheel Drivetrain
 

Akash Rastogi 04-10-2009 23:18

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Before anyone flips about the pocketing on this...

Note that this is for sponsored robots, not for competition use. IE: t shirt launchers

Nick Lawrence 04-10-2009 23:23

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Looks like fun.

Even with it not being a competition robot, I'd still be a little worried on the pocketing. Would having a little less of it be out of question?

-Nick

gallo26 04-10-2009 23:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Lawrence (Post 876806)
Even with it not being a competition robot, I'd still be a little worried on the pocketing. Would having a little less of it be out of question?

Each frame will have its own paneling to cover everything up.

AdamHeard 04-10-2009 23:39

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The fact that it's not for comp is even more reason not to pocket it.

Just leave the 1/4" plate solid, it'll be stronger, prettier, and waaaaaaaaaaay quicker to manufacture. It will also make the base more stable for whatever it's being used for.

gburlison 04-10-2009 23:44

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6 wheel drive and all that pocketing seems like a lot of work for a non-competition robot.

gallo26 04-10-2009 23:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 876809)
The fact that it's not for comp is even more reason not to pocket it.

Just leave the 1/4" plate solid, it'll be stronger, prettier, and waaaaaaaaaaay quicker to manufacture. It will also make the base more stable for whatever it's being used for.

I didn't want to leave it solid. It will be covered by bumpers and the perimeter will be lined with .5" square tubing. The looks of it won't matter, and in my opinion pockets make it look pretty neat. But that's besides the point...

I do agree that the holes for the wheels need more beef. It is .5" width now, I should have put it as .75" width. The rest of it is identical to the plate we used for our 2009 bot. Its just a foot longer.

rsisk 04-10-2009 23:52

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Quote:

Before anyone flips about the pocketing on this...
Can someone explain what "pocketing" is?

Thanks

R.C. 04-10-2009 23:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rsisk (Post 876815)
Can someone explain what "pocketing" is?

Thanks

Pocketing is pretty much "how" much material you take out of a solid piece. Pretty much also the CNC cutouts of a piece.

Also on CAM programs, pocketing is an option for type of toolpath.

-RC

James Tonthat 05-10-2009 01:10

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Maybe higher ground clearance. If its noncompetition, I can see it going around sidewalks, pavements and grassy areas.

M. Mellott 05-10-2009 02:42

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You plan on using 25-series chain to drive the omnis...how will you tension the chains? Also make sure the alignment between each pair of sprockets is acurate.

With 8" wheels and a 5"-wide plate (assuming wheel centers are in the center of the plate--at least it looks that way) gives you a 1.5" ground clearance? Should be OK.

I have to agree with others that you need more meat on the side plates...1" on the webs at least, and big radii in the corners of the pockets. Always start with a strong base, even if it's not for competition.

80/20 is good stuff, but you have to watch that the bolts holding the frame together don't come loose--they always seem to eventually. If you're not going to take it apart, you may want to consider Lok-tite (or tack welds).

All that said, it looks like a solid, simple design that should go together very quickly.

Tom Line 05-10-2009 09:32

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I would be concerned with the front and rear driven omni-wheels. In our experience, having no side-force resistance to turning will lead to a robot that is very difficult to accelerate in a straight line.

Jeff 801 05-10-2009 10:19

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It appears as though you are using AM toughboxes, you might want to leave the cover over the gears to keep dirt and FOD out of the gears and grease.

artdutra04 05-10-2009 10:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff 801 (Post 876857)
It appears as though you are using AM toughboxes, you might want to leave the cover over the gears to keep dirt and FOD out of the gears and grease.

A piece of .030 to .062 polycarbonate will do the same thing for less weight. ;)

Chris is me 05-10-2009 10:36

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I'm still a little confused as to why this chassis is being built with weight in mind (other than to keep it liftable, roughly under 150ish pounds), but it looks simple and effective.


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