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Boydean 17-10-2009 21:56

Google Wave
 
How many people on here got a Google Wave invite? I just got mine today, what do you guys think about it? I think I can easily see it taking over email in the future, but not anytime soon.

ATannahill 17-10-2009 22:38

Re: Google Wave
 
I applied a while back but I haven't been invited. Also, I think there was already a thread on the google wave, did you search?

edit: The google wave was mention at http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ht=google+wave, but it does not seem to have it's own thread.

TimeOut 17-10-2009 22:49

Re: Google Wave
 
Had mine for about a week now.

I did start a 'Wave'; and it's just started to get participants in there this evening.

Sean
Team 499
Programming Mentor

Zholl 18-10-2009 01:12

Re: Google Wave
 
Got mine a week ago. Sent a couple invites out to some other guys on my team, and we're kind of playing with it. Not entirely sure what I think of it yet. Of course, they just got they're invites today, so I'm only now getting a good way of playing with it.

rsisk 18-10-2009 10:37

Re: Google Wave
 
I am trying to use Wave, but really having a hard time figuring out why. It doesn't seem to provide a capability I don't have else where.

It does pull together email and IM functionality, but I'm not sure I need that.

So, I don't think it is the killer app that Google would like to think it is, at least I am still trying to figure out the answer to this question: Why?

ATannahill 24-10-2009 21:45

Re: Google Wave
 
I just got my invite, can some of you give me your addresses?

GBilletdeaux930 26-10-2009 18:10

Re: Google Wave
 
I have been watching Wave for a while, applied for an invite but never got one. If any of you guys have some remaining and wouldn't mind giving me one, that'd be awesome(assuming everyone is still getting 10 invites to hand out).

From what it sounds, it could really revolutionize the way we use the internet. But without trying it, I can not give a definite opinion though I am excited for its release.

Zholl 26-10-2009 22:07

Re: Google Wave
 
GBillet, if you send me a PM, I'd be happy to send you an invite. I've still got a few invites left.

Josh Goodman 27-10-2009 10:37

Re: Google Wave
 
I'm in the same boat. I applied a while back and haven't gotten an invite. Looks interesting though.

JesseK 28-10-2009 16:21

Re: Google Wave
 
I just learned about Wave today -- there's a HUGE possibility that this will replace Microsoft's NetMeeting as the leading corporate collaborative work environment. It's all web-based, companies can put their own proprietary portals in it while keep the actual data private if need be, and documents literally come out of conversations. I like the idea of responding to individual pieces of a document, yet that conversation doesn't come out in the final product. Just wait -- as speech-to-text evolves more, meetings will literally take place at a desk without participants having to type 70 words per minute to keep up...

The biggest things I see for the engineering world are better Systems Engineering opportunities for collaboration across geographical work sites. CAD, Schematics, drawings, pictures, manuals, documents, illustrations, etc will all be possible in the future. Multiple people working on these things at the same time is critical, and Microsoft's answer is sharepoint -- which lacks the fundamental idea of being able to work on a document at the same time.

Eventually I foresee full VNC windows and/or videos into Wave as a new vehicle to take classes over the web. Eventually I think more remote control from various people around the world will evolve, so that (e.g.) someone in LA can control a different part of the same robot that someone in NYC controls.

At the end of Google's announcement and the I/O, they did concede that Wave's success is contingent upon the open source development community's ability and drive to create API's and extensions into existing communications mediums so that Wave will 'talk' with non-wave applications. So long as that happens, I believe Wave will catch on.

Billfred 17-11-2009 19:06

Re: Google Wave
 
I finally got an invite, tip 'o the hat to Greg Needel. Early adopter that I am, my user name is Billfred.

I'm interested in trying it out, though I'll need a few co-conspirators collaborators to get much use out of it. (And no, I don't have any invites yet--or if I do, they haven't made it obvious.)

NickE 17-11-2009 19:21

Re: Google Wave
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsisk (Post 878700)
I am trying to use Wave, but really having a hard time figuring out why. It doesn't seem to provide a capability I don't have else where.

It does pull together email and IM functionality, but I'm not sure I need that.

So, I don't think it is the killer app that Google would like to think it is, at least I am still trying to figure out the answer to this question: Why?

I seem to be asking the same question. Its cool but doesnt seem to have any unique purpose.

SamC 18-11-2009 02:15

Re: Google Wave
 
Google and the internet as a whole have successfully over-hyped yet another product. I got an invite about a month ago (Thank you Matt Keller), I must say, it definitely is not intuitive how to really use it. My account on wave has basically sat stagnant. Hopefully as more users get accounts and features are added I will find more uses for it, but for now it seems to simply be an unnecessary alternative to that which I already use (email, IM, etc.)

R.C. 18-11-2009 02:27

Re: Google Wave
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SamC (Post 883087)
Google and the internet as a whole have successfully over-hyped yet another product. I got an invite about a month ago (Thank you Matt Keller), I must say, it definitely is not intuitive how to really use it. My account on wave has basically sat stagnant. Hopefully as more users get accounts I will find more uses for it, but for now it seems to simply be an unnecessary alternative to that which I already use (email, IM, etc.)

Agreed, but I do think it has potential once more of its "cooler" features are released. :yikes:

-RC

Chris is me 18-11-2009 02:48

Re: Google Wave
 
It's basically seemed like an automatic message board between friends for me. E.g. kinda pointless. Collaboration is better done with Google Docs or Facebook.

JesseK 18-11-2009 09:28

Re: Google Wave
 
Google Wave is like the iPhone -- it's crap without all of the apps that are developed for it (the difference is that Wave will be the corollary to world domination whereas the iPhone is the corollary to socialism in the telecoms world...). I believe that after a substantial amount of community development, you will be able to visit web pages that are Wave portals and not even know it's Google Wave unless you know what Google Wave is.

For example, think about how AndyMark's website could be redone under a new Google Wave architecture. Andy could answer questions if he were online, and we could all post photos of the products in action. Additionally, we could post feedback on technical aspects and there could be a portal for requested features, parts, etc. We could even have a chat started during FRC build season in order to facilitate helping each other out -- that way Andy could focus on the larger picture yet the teams with questions still get a remarkable amount of customer service. Finally, to purchase the products, the Wave app would wrap the customer's shopping cart Wave into whatever existing format the current back end requires so that the payment system doesn't have to change.

There are other numerous advantages in online education, especially within the math and Physics world. Playing back a wave would allow us to see equations being manipulated on the fly, and if professors (or other FRC teams...) were online then a chat could be started at any point during the 'lesson' in order to ask questions about any individual piece of the equation or lecture that the student doesn't understand.

I think the biggest challenge is how to associate a website's current user database with a Google Wave user database without forcing users of the website to sign up for a Google account. (e.g. I'm JesseK on CD, but not JesseK@google)

Nate Smith 18-11-2009 16:17

Re: Google Wave
 
A few years back, I set up a "Kickoff Central" site which included a chat, links to the manual postings, webcasts, etc., and other tools for those watching the kickoff remotely. I've thought about the possibility of setting something like this up again using Wave, but have not yet been able to dig around in the system enough to figure out what it would take to set something like that up.

If I get a chance after setting up a few other things I'm working on, I'll dig into Wave and see what I can get accomplished.

Ryan Albright 21-11-2009 11:56

Re: Google Wave
 
If anyone has any invite's can you send one my way.

Burmeister #279 26-11-2009 21:07

Re: Google Wave
 
I have about 5 invites i'd be willing to spare for some robotics people. message me =)

As others have said, google wave is pretty much hype in my opinion. For friend-to-friend communication, I have facebook, aim, gmail, and Digsby to tie them all together, on top of the fact wave is still in beta and the only friends on are those I sent invites to. When/If facebook, myspace, twitter*, and gmail** become fully integrated in wave, just maybe I might use it for F2F.

On the other hand, for business collaboration, with a few (dozen) programmers to spare developing an app, Wave would work wonderfully.

As I said before, its still in beta. Its also still very slow (at least for me). I'll like it better when it goes full public I hope.

*found out twitter has a robot for wave but i don't know how it works
** as far as i can see, gmail contacts can not be imported yet. I also don't know if i can send messages to my mail contacts through wave.

ATannahill 26-11-2009 21:15

Re: Google Wave
 
I have had one (1) conversation on it that was neither a. testing wave's ability or b. couldn't have worked equally well over email. This is because a. few people have access and b. I haven't changed my mentality to wave being my main online communication medium. I think wave can live up to google's hopes, it will just take time and some work. That one conversation went great and I see wave becoming more instrumental on teams in the future.

Karibou 26-11-2009 23:27

Re: Google Wave
 
I've got 14 invites, PM me if you'd like one.

I think that Wave has the potential to be a great collaboration tool once the community grows. It's never going to replace e-mail, but I think that it's really neat.

mrbob1000 28-11-2009 11:03

Re: Google Wave
 
I too would love an invite, i know they are going to go fast to please pm me if you have one to spare.

Gamer930 28-11-2009 11:28

Re: Google Wave
 
I have 8 invites. . PM me if you want one. . .

I think it will become a great tool once more addon's and features are added

demosthenes2k8 30-11-2009 15:40

Re: Google Wave
 
I also have 8 invites if people want them.

Wetzel 30-11-2009 17:03

Re: Google Wave
 
Whenever I open wave, my computer really bogs down so I can't leave it open like I do gmail. Also waves take forever to sync, making real time edits really difficult. Once some of these things get sorted it will be more useful, but for now email and chat work better.

Wetzel

R.C. 30-11-2009 17:48

Re: Google Wave
 
I have 20 Wave invites, if anyone wants one, please send me a pm with an email.

-RC

Akash Rastogi 30-11-2009 17:57

Re: Google Wave
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rc_cola1323 (Post 884816)
I have 20 Wave invites, if anyone wants one, please send me a pm with an email.

-RC

You've been holdin' out on me man ;)

Cow Bell Solo 01-12-2009 21:40

Re: Google Wave
 
I have had Gwave for a about a month now and am liking it somewhat, it helps to have people to use it with. (Which most people at work have it). It also helps for people to use it.

In the future it could have a huge possibility, plus it could be difficult to get everyone to jump on the bandwagon of getting a wave account. So far it is mainly people that are interested it, or have some technical background(that I know of that use it) not many are to gun ho about getting involved yet.

Plus being that it is in Preview, it keeps reminding me about that, Google does have a lot to do before they should release it. It could also help to have more extensions and USEFUL apps instead of 5 of the same kind that let you create a poll or something.

There is definitly potential just there is some work to do with getting it to be fully released which I don't see for a couple of years down the road. Just think about how long gmail was in beta, lets see if wave will beat it.

ehochstein 03-12-2009 09:58

Re: Google Wave
 
I think it would be much better if you could include people who only have regular email also -- Then you could email them and include them in the conversation, eventually they would have to get Wave, based upon the assumption that since Wave is more like IMing they would get way behind in their replies.

Chris is me 03-12-2009 10:11

Re: Google Wave
 
I don't know about you guys, but I prefer my Waves in robotics teams than in Google applications.

My school's Battlebots team uses it to colloaborate, share designs, specifications, etc. I really haven't figured out how to optimally use it.

demosthenes2k8 03-12-2009 14:45

Re: Google Wave
 
Haha, the whole "email a wave" idea made me think about what would happen if you were sent an email for each update. That would be funny to see!

I don't use it much for real use, but for casual group chat it's fine

Clinton Bolinger 03-12-2009 16:19

Re: Google Wave
 
I believe that just like Gmail, Gtalk (in Gmail), Facebook, and Twitter that it will become more popular and used instead of e-mail.

For me personally gtalk in gmail has replaced the need for having a dedicated instant messaging client like Aim, Yahoo, or MSN.

The biggest problem Google Wave faces right now is the fact that no one has Google Wave accounts. My guess is that in the future Google Wave will be able to communicate with e-mail clients but wont be able to take advantage of its fully feature set. This will allow for people to fully switch over to google wave as their main form of communication rather then typical e-mail. or there is the possibility that all gmail accounts could be turned into google wave account and then you have a huge user base.

Just a note here is a tutorial on using twitter in Google Wave:
http://daggle.com/add-twitter-google-wave-1424

-Oris-

JesseK 04-12-2009 11:05

Re: Google Wave
 
With all of these recent wave invites, surely we can have a live kickoff discussion?

Zholl 04-12-2009 18:21

Re: Google Wave
 
I know I only offered to a couple of people, but I do have 21 invites currently, so I can give those out in addition to what's already been offered.

ehochstein 05-12-2009 00:58

Re: Google Wave
 
Feel free to add me for the live kick-off discussion my username is clowdude

Jeff 801 06-12-2009 10:38

Re: Google Wave
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JesseK (Post 885745)
With all of these recent wave invites, surely we can have a live kickoff discussion?

Sounds interesting... if you want add me my username is: j3ffr3ym

ATannahill 06-12-2009 11:23

Re: Google Wave
 
If we are going to have a wave kickoff discussion (count me in), can someone create a new thread so this one isn't clogged up.

robodude03 13-12-2009 01:32

Re: Google Wave
 
I would definitely like to jump into the wave discussion if possible. My username is: rharo.jr

Thanks :)

Burmeister #279 13-12-2009 02:50

Re: Google Wave
 
Username is burmeister.twosevennine. Please add me everybody, i'd also like to participate in a kickoff wave, and I have 18 invites for anyone who wants one.

demosthenes2k8 13-12-2009 09:11

Re: Google Wave
 
I've set up a (kinda small) Kickoff wave. The people who posted their usernames SHOULD be in it. If not, can you tell me?
My username's demosthenes2k8

Nate Smith 13-12-2009 11:23

Re: Google Wave
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by demosthenes2k8 (Post 887848)
I've set up a (kinda small) Kickoff wave. The people who posted their usernames SHOULD be in it. If not, can you tell me?
My username's demosthenes2k8

Can you add me in? njsmith04401@googlewave.com

I've also created my own, not much more than a countdown there now, but still working on things as well...let me know what you think...I'll try and add people in so we can decide which to use.

ATannahill 13-12-2009 11:29

Re: Google Wave
 
Please invite youthec under the google wave domain.

Karibou 13-12-2009 11:37

Re: Google Wave
 
I'm failbolt, could you add me too, please? I may or may not make an appearance depending on wifi availability, but I'll try my best to make it online at some point.

I also have a ton of invites left, throw me a PM if you'd like one.

Chris is me 13-12-2009 14:49

Re: Google Wave
 
I'm wikichris on wave, add me and i'll try and remember to log on.

Boydean 13-12-2009 17:59

Re: Google Wave
 
Can you add me, my username is boydean

BrendanB 13-12-2009 18:35

Re: Google Wave
 
Could you add me, mine is brendan.w.browne@googlewave.com

IndySam 13-12-2009 19:21

Re: Google Wave
 
I need a wave invite.

R.C. 13-12-2009 19:23

Re: Google Wave
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IndySam (Post 887949)
I need a wave invite.

What's your email or send me a PM with it.

-RC

IndySam 13-12-2009 19:44

Re: Google Wave
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rc_cola1323 (Post 887951)
What's your email or send me a PM with it.

-RC

I would but.......rc_cola1323 has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her.

R.C. 13-12-2009 19:56

Re: Google Wave
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IndySam (Post 887963)
I would but.......rc_cola1323 has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her.

Really, Wow. Um, can you email me @ rc@team1323.com. I'll get the PM thing fixed.

-RC

BrendanB 13-12-2009 20:32

Re: Google Wave
 
I have 25 invites. PM me and I'll send one your way!

Jonathan Norris 13-12-2009 21:44

Re: Google Wave
 
could someone add me to the kickoff wave, jonathannorris@googlewave.com

Coach Norm 15-12-2009 16:16

Re: Google Wave
 
could someone add me to the Kickoff wave as well
coach.norm@googlewave.com

I am trying to figure out Google Wave and what better individuals to show me.

1986titans 16-12-2009 22:42

Re: Google Wave
 
The discussion about the Kickoff Wave seems to have been moved to here:

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...threadid=79310.

Zholl 19-12-2009 16:11

Re: Google Wave
 
Hey, could I get in on this discussion as well? I'm chris.sherwoodforest@googlewave.com

Also, I currently have 20 invites, so if anyone's still looking for one...

Chris is me 19-12-2009 16:39

Re: Google Wave
 
I've got 25 invites, PM me if you want one, though I'd like to save as many as I can for teammates.


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