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Andrew Schreiber 02-11-2009 15:00

Re: New Chairman's Award Eligibility
 
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Originally Posted by Kims Robot (Post 880868)
I disagree with this... Elvis is still "the king" Michael Jackson is still "the king of pop", along with many many other greats that will be remembered for a very long time... despite the fact that perhaps at the ends of their careers and lives they werent the same people they were when they were at the height of their popularity. Its the idea that at that time, they did something revolutionary and affected SO many people, that they deserve our praise, and that people still worship them long after they died. Take art as an example, 90% of painters dont become famous until they are dead... long after their "useful period" has expired. Yet do we say that Michaelangelo doesnt deserve the fame anymore?

I dont see any team that wins at the championship level just sitting back and riding their way to championships... even 20 years from now. Every one of them worked to get where they are because of their ideals, not because of the award or the ride to championships.

I do believe that the winning teams deserve to be remembered, the concern I have is that so much can change in 20 years. I don't foresee a CCA level team fading away but I doubt that 25 years ago anyone foresaw the economic collapse we are experiencing today. I think the most succinct way of saying what I am attempting to is, "Past success does not guarantee future success" If a team does well one year then there is no promise they will not fail the next. I am merely wondering if FIRST ought to put in place a system to make sure that if a team no longer exemplifies FIRST's goals they should be removed from the HoF. (I should hope it never happens, but I always work on the theory that if I assume the worst I am always pleasantly surprised)

ErikEdhlund 03-11-2009 00:59

Re: New Chairman's Award Eligibility
 
As a student on the WildStang team when they had won the Chairman's Award in 2006, I understand the significance of such recognition. The new fire and determination that it can generate.Though I see where the belief that it is a good idea to allow HOF team's to resubmit since it allows generations that were not involved with the team when they had earned their recognition to prove that they are still deserving of the recognition that they received.

However I do not agree with the idea that a existing HOF team that already knows what the judges are looking for in each regional to be able to resubmit. I do not believe it is fair to other teams who are just as deserving of receiving recognition and an opportunity to earn their place among the other HOF teams.
Once your in the hall of fame, your always a part of its history. Is it fair for a team that has already been recognized to take away a chance for another team just for a reminder that they still deserve their HOF status? Each HOF team has proven already they are a role model for all teams, young and old, in FIRST. Why would they have to prove again that they are a role model? Wouldn't it make sense to recognize and add more teams to the HOF in order to create more role models for the hundreds of teams in first, rather than compete for more recognition that they had already received?

Why not create a sub-competition for HOF team's to compete among each other, in order to remind themselves of what it took to get there and prove they are still deserving of their place. All while not taking away the chance for a new team, who is just as deserving, to join the HOF.

OZ_341 03-11-2009 13:41

Re: New Chairman's Award Eligibility
 
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Originally Posted by Cheermaster111 (Post 880945)
.......Why not create a sub-competition for HOF team's to compete among each other, in order to remind themselves of what it took to get there and prove they are still deserving of their place. All while not taking away the chance for a new team, who is just as deserving, to join the HOF.

Exactly! This is what I said in my previous post.

Let's face it! Every human being has a basic need to be challenged! All of these new kids on the older CCA teams need a competitive challenge. Our brains love challenge and risk.
I just think they should be competing for something different than the RCA. If we devise a plan where CCA teams can compete for most of the regional awards (except for RCA and EI) and then compete Nationally each year for an HOF award then I think you have something substantial. It will give every kid on a CCA team something to shoot for all year long.


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