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3758 06-11-2009 09:39

Acrylic Sheets
 
Hi,

My team was wondering whether we could use Acrylite Acylic sheets on the robot. I found that Lexan and Acrylite were both thermoplastic sheets, but I was just posting here just to be sure.

IndySam 06-11-2009 09:59

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I would never use acrylic on my robots. It's impact resistance is just not up to the abuse. I don't even allow it in the lab so it isn't mistakenly used on the robot.


Stick with polycarbonate (lexan.)

wilmo 06-11-2009 10:06

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Seconded. Lexan can defiantly take much more abuse than the acrylic sheets. Lexan can take a full bore robot collision with minor damage while acrylic can be easily cracked if you even try to drill into it.

Joe Ross 06-11-2009 10:07

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Are you asking about FTC or FRC?

Teched3 06-11-2009 10:26

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Stick with Lexan as everyone has suggested. Just a note in forming it. If you "heat soak" it for a while at below thermoform temp, you force out trapped vapor, and eliminate bubbling in the sheet that occurs if it is heated too fast. Experiment and it's appearance will be maintained.:) ::safety::

Nick Lawrence 08-11-2009 11:40

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I vote for polycarb, over acrylic. No matter where it's used.

-Nick

lbarger 08-11-2009 16:56

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FRC rules do not allow acrylic (Plexiglass (tm)). Stick with polycarbonate (Lexan (tm)) as it is impact resistant.

Andrew Schreiber 08-11-2009 17:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lbarger (Post 881676)
FRC rules do not allow acrylic (Plexiglass (tm)). Stick with polycarbonate (Lexan (tm)) as it is impact resistant.

What rule (from last year) forbids it?)

Also, he isn't in FRC, he is in FTC. Different rules.

Chris is me 08-11-2009 23:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lbarger (Post 881676)
FTC rules do not allow acrylic (Plexiglass (tm)).

Fixed.

For either program, acrylic should never be used, except for some really obscure exception or something. Always always use polycarbonate.

MrForbes 08-11-2009 23:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 881716)
Always always use polycarbonate.

in FRC you could almost build your whole robot from polycarbonate...right? :)

Lil' Lavery 09-11-2009 16:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 881716)
For either program, acrylic should never be used, except for some really obscure exception or something. Always always use polycarbonate.


I can think of more than a few roles where acrylic would be suitably strong, such as concealed ball hoppers/dividers or decal backing. Just never use it for anything structural or might otherwise take any shock loads.

Eugene Fang 09-11-2009 20:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 881799)
I can think of more than a few roles where acrylic would be suitably strong, such as concealed ball hoppers/dividers or decal backing. Just never use it for anything structural or might otherwise take any shock loads.

They're really close in price though, if I remember correctly, so wouldn't you go for polycarbonate just because it won't shatter on you?

IndySam 09-11-2009 22:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 881799)
I can think of more than a few roles where acrylic would be suitably strong, such as concealed ball hoppers/dividers or decal backing. Just never use it for anything structural or might otherwise take any shock loads.

We have had decal backing shattered by another robot. Shards of plastic in your robot can be bad.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pikat (Post 881824)
They're really close in price though, if I remember correctly, so wouldn't you go for polycarbonate just because it won't shatter on you?

Polycarb is generally twice as expensive as acrylic.

J93Wagner 10-11-2009 22:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 881716)
For either program, acrylic should never be used, except for some really obscure exception or something. Always always use polycarbonate.

Funny that you say that, especially since you built a crab drive structure out of the stuff.

Chris is me 11-11-2009 00:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by J93Wagner (Post 882055)
Funny that you say that, especially since you built a crab drive structure out of the stuff.

That's just for prototyping a few plates that need to be milled out of poly that are harder to machine. The piece of acrylic is being used as a place holder.

Any "real" crab module will have zero acrylic in it, and I'm hoping my team's replacing the temporarily acrylic parts of the prototype rather than waiting for competition to build one that's strength testable...

xanarchyx 11-11-2009 11:27

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Chris, why would we replace the acrylic, It was a prototype, we are done with it now, we are moving on.

BTW It is possible to build a robot completely out of Polycarbonate, thats what our team does.

Iv seen a few teams use bits of acrylic. Sometimes it works, other times... it shatters with disasterus results.

My advice, use Polycarb, It machines similar to wood or aluminum. You can router it like wood... or cold bend it like aluminum.

Also, if you use polycarbonate, heat bending is very difficult. We almost never heat bend ours just because there is such a small window between bending and melting, or (molecular decomposition). I recomend Cold bending but then you need a large brake.

Chris is me 11-11-2009 12:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xanarchyx (Post 882118)
Chris, why would we replace the acrylic, It was a prototype, we are done with it now, we are moving on.

I meant on a "real" module, if we build one for build season some year.

J93Wagner 11-11-2009 12:53

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And here I thought it was totally polycarb... :rolleyes:

vivek16 16-11-2009 15:35

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Actually, I think Acrylic is twice as clear as Polycarbonate or something like that. :)

I also would never use Acrylic anywhere on a robot. Drilling holes in the stuff results in cracking and you have to be really precise about bolting it. Polycarb just takes the slack. I do this demo where I clamp identical pieces of polycarbonate and acrylic to a table and whack each with a large hammer.

reversed_rocker 17-11-2009 18:25

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we use acrylic all the time for prototyping (only when they are directly on an aluminum plate of course). Acrylic can be laser cut, which makes it really quick to put an idea together. No matter what plastic you use, make sure you have extras of your plastic parts at the competition and an easy swap out to boot. We must have gone through 3 polycarbonate motor mounts last year


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