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swamp_child 17-11-2009 19:31
Re: FIRST records
 
Most out there and legally argued robot design, 190 2008

Molten 17-11-2009 19:42
Re: FIRST records
 
This thread is already to 100 posts. Not bad considering half of mine don't make it to 20.

This made me wonder. What is the fastest growing thread on CD? My guess is it is one of the clue threads.(I could be wrong) But which one? Any guesses?

Chris is me 17-11-2009 19:43
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by swamp_child (Post 883032)
Most out there and legally argued robot design, 190 2008
I respectfully disagree. (68 2003)

That being said, I don't know 190's 08 robot nor have I been able to find anything about it.

BrendanB 17-11-2009 20:08
Re: FIRST records
 
Chris, if you don't know what it is, then don't disagree.

So for you and some others here is what happened-

So they had a huge crane with a suction cup on the end and they would drive up to a trackball, suck on it, and then the elevator rotated so they would swing the trackball around the field crossing into all quadrants and then it would drop it on the other side of the overpass to hurdle it. Their suction cup was on a winch so after it dropped, they would reach down and do it all over again.

The problem was that their robot stayed in the first quadrant while crossing into the others.

http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv/match/2008nh_qm38.
This is one of the only matches in which they got it to work

It was a beautiful machine, just not deemed legal.

swamp_child 17-11-2009 20:14
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrendanB (Post 883039)
Chris, if you don't know what it is, then don't disagree.

So for you and some others here is what happened-

So they had a huge crane with a suction cup on the end and they would drive up to a trackball, suck on it, and then the elevator rotated so they would swing the trackball around the field crossing into all quadrants and then it would drop it on the other side of the overpass to hurdle it. Their suction cup was on a winch so after it dropped, they would reach down and do it all over again.

The problem was that their robot stayed in the first quadrant while crossing into the others.

http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv/match/2008nh_qm38.
This is one of the only matches in which they got it to work

It was a beautiful machine, just not deemed legal.
The not deemed legal part is debatable, but when it comes down to it it was asked in a Q&A if you could do this exact thing and the official response was yes.

EricH 17-11-2009 20:19
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 883034)
That being said, I don't know 190's 08 robot nor have I been able to find anything about it.
They would go out to their overpass and grab one of their trackballs. They would then drop it to the ground on the far side of their overpass and immediately pick it up, then put it up over the center divider and swing it in a large circle over their opponent's overpass and the center divider and their own overpass, drop it and pick it up again, and continue. They had to do this without crossing the center divider with their robot, due to a Q&A, and their robot's drive simply got them to their parking spot. Think a wrecking ball and you'll be pretty close.

2008 had possibly the most argued overall designs with two; 1519's initial design was ruled illegal and many people thought that it wasn't. (By the letter of the rules, it was almost completely legal due to a circular definition; by the spirit of the rules, it was obviously illegal. The circular definition was eliminated for the 2009 season.) Both the robots involved in said design were pretty successful at off-season events.

Least-liked penalty: tie between 2008's <G22> (direction of travel enforcement, 10 points) and 2005's contact in loading zone penalty, not-so-affectionately dubbed the Kiss of Death (30 points). Let's just say that those two could change the winner of a match really easily--and often did. If you had the loading-zone penalty in 2005, you'd probably lose the match no matter how well you did. Two of them in a match would guarantee most teams a zero score.

Nuttyman54 17-11-2009 20:23
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 883034)
I respectfully disagree. (68 2003)

That being said, I don't know 190's 08 robot nor have I been able to find anything about it.
Here is the 91 post debate discussing our mechanism that year.

Also, while we're throwing out subjective suggestions on biggest upset, I nominate the quarterfinals knockout of 1070, 254 and 692 by 766, 488 and 852 at SVR 2007. This marked the only time to date 254 did not win the San Jose regional.

Chris is me 17-11-2009 20:30
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrendanB (Post 883039)
Chris, if you don't know what it is, then don't disagree.
I actually thought it was (oddly enough) 1519's dual config robot, then edited my post when I remembered that was 1519 not 190.

BrendanB 17-11-2009 20:38
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 883048)
I actually thought it was (oddly enough) 1519's dual config robot, then edited my post when I remembered that was 1519 not 190.
HAHA... let's leave that one closed. Speed Racer good times, good times.:p

Molten 17-11-2009 21:00
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 883048)
I actually thought it was (oddly enough) 1519's dual config robot, then edited my post when I remembered that was 1519 not 190.
I actually thought back to the same thing. Just wasn't sure of the number.

BrendanB 17-11-2009 21:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Molten (Post 883051)
I actually thought back to the same thing. Just wasn't sure of the number.
Yah, it can get confusing. I realized that two of the few teams with rules issues went to the same regional.:)

EricLeifermann 17-11-2009 21:35
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What about teams with really unique drive trains or mechanisms?

i know the technokats 45 had a second ball drive train that they loaned to a team at the Midwest regional in 2003. They had like big inflatable balls from like walmart or something that they used to move around, it was quite cool to watch move. The balls did like to come out though if the robot got hit to hard or at a bad angle.

EricH 17-11-2009 22:47
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricLeifermann (Post 883058)
What about teams with really unique drive trains or mechanisms?

i know the technokats 45 had a second ball drive train that they loaned to a team at the Midwest regional in 2003. They had like big inflatable balls from like walmart or something that they used to move around, it was quite cool to watch move. The balls did like to come out though if the robot got hit to hard or at a bad angle.
I believe that they were actually metal balls that were coated. There's a thread on it somewhere.

Ian Curtis 17-11-2009 23:10
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricLeifermann (Post 883058)
What about teams with really unique drive trains or mechanisms?
My socks still get knocked off every time I think about 1771 in 2008. The large majority of attempts at suction mechanisms in FRC fail miserable. 1771 built what can only be called an incredible success.

Andrew Schreiber 18-11-2009 00:01
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 883034)
I respectfully disagree. (68 2003)

That being said, I don't know 190's 08 robot nor have I been able to find anything about it.
I'll second this, knowing both robots I have to say, not only were they both controversial but 68's was a work of ART, having a structure that size unfold and stay under weight was pure genius.

Quote:
Originally Posted by iCurtis (Post 883072)
My socks still get knocked off every time I think about 1771 in 2008. The large majority of attempts at suction mechanisms in FRC fail miserable. 1771 built what can only be called an incredible success.
Yeah, that robot sucked.

Akash Rastogi 18-11-2009 00:34
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 883067)
I believe that they were actually metal balls that were coated. There's a thread on it somewhere.
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/15197

Dr Theta 18-11-2009 03:46
Re: FIRST records
 
I believe team 2418 also implemented a rather effective vacuum device in their 2008 robot. They were one of my personal favorite robots at the Minnesota regional, a really effectively implemented strategy in what was their rookie year.

Mark McLeod 18-11-2009 10:31
Re: FIRST records
 
How about number of awards?
These totals don't have the 2009 awards added in yet, but here are the award totals by team from 1992 through the 2008 season.
FRC has given out a grand total of 6825 trophies in those years.

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P.S.
Now for the drawbacks of these award tallys...
Some of the early award information from FIRST is pretty skimpy, but it's better than what the current FIRST database has available nowadays. Some known awards haven't been correlated to modern day team numbers and added into this list. I'm also not sure how Michigan district event awards are handled in the current FIRST database.

Attached is a database dump of the awards tally I used.
P.S. If you want to send me corrections, please do. I'll incorporate them.

Chris is me 18-11-2009 14:27
Re: FIRST records
 
That's a pretty nifty list you got there. Cool facts that really don't matter: 1714's the most decorated 2006 rookie team. :D (Granted, we have one more than 1902, whom opted out of a second Rookie All-Star award. We would have done the same if we knew we could win a second one.)

Interesting data. I wonder who "wins" on trophies / year average?

JB987 18-11-2009 15:05
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 883163)
That's a pretty nifty list you got there. Cool facts that really don't matter: 1714's the most decorated 2006 rookie team. :D (Granted, we have one more than 1902, whom opted out of a second Rookie All-Star award. We would have done the same if we knew we could win a second one.)

Interesting data. I wonder who "wins" on trophies / year average?
Probably better to determine ratio of awards per regionals/cmps attended as opposed to trophies/year since so many teams (especially now that we have districs) compete in a lot more events per year than others?

ATannahill 18-11-2009 15:09
Re: FIRST records
 
Mark, is that from the team pages or the archived awards pages? Isn't it true that some team pages are missing awards?

Mark McLeod 18-11-2009 15:16
Re: FIRST records
 
Different source of data.

This is from our own database we've been maintaining for about 5 years.
We have teams and awards that are missing from the current FIRST team database.

That doesn't mean that there aren't errors in our database too. They are just different mistakes. :)

This was just what I could knock out in a few minutes via a database query. Our database is undergoing redesign, so we have additional data that just hasn't been added to the main database. The redesign is why 2009 data wasn't readily available to sort by team number.

The 2009 FIRST event awards pages are missing for several competitions, but the team data has some of those missing awards.
And I've seen team pages that were incorrect too.

P.S.
It's probably pretty simple to calculate awards/year just because I have team years in a spreadsheet already. Awards/event requires some interesting merging of two data sources: events-by-team and this awards-by-team.

Arefin Bari 19-11-2009 00:27
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 883034)
I respectfully disagree. (68 2003)

That being said, I don't know 190's 08 robot nor have I been able to find anything about it.
Anybody have a video of their robot in action?

Molten 19-11-2009 04:35
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arefin Bari (Post 883289)
Anybody have a video of their robot in action?
If I recall, it was never allowed to use it in a match. But I've just read about it.

NickE 19-11-2009 09:49
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Molten (Post 883295)
If I recall, it was never allowed to use it in a match. But I've just read about it.
Are you referring to 68 or 190. I'm not sure about the former, but 190 was certainly allowed in many matches, including the entire Silicon Valley Regional.

Nuttyman54 19-11-2009 10:47
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NickE (Post 883321)
Are you referring to 68 or 190. I'm not sure about the former, but 190 was certainly allowed in many matches, including the entire Silicon Valley Regional.
I would love to see some video of this 68 robot, it sounds epic.

190 was ruled legal during BAE and SVR, and was only after SVR that we were informed that our strategy would draw penalties if we attempted it at championships.

Peter Matteson 19-11-2009 11:13
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Billfred (Post 883016)
Not quite--33 was #1 on Archimedes in 2004, picked 60 and 1241, and was promptly knocked out in two matches in the quarters by 121, 237, and 386.
This was also done in 2004 on Galileo when 177, 27, and 365 beat the one seed and lost in the division finals to 469's championship finalist alliance.

Mark McLeod 19-11-2009 12:13
Re: FIRST records
 
Here are the teams that have won the most of each of the following awards and the number of times they have won.

Code:
Team --- # Wins --- Award
71 Team ---- 7 --- #1 Seed
103 Team --- 2 --- Autodesk Inventor Award
103 Team --- 8 --- Autodesk Visualization Award
192 Team --- 8 --- Autodesk Visualization Award
16 Team ---- 4 --- Chairman's Award Finalist
191 Team --- 2 --- Chairman's Award Winner
111 Team --- 2 --- Championship Finalist
254 Team --- 2 --- Championship Finalist
71 Team ---- 4 --- Championship Winner
33 Team ---- 5 --- Delphi "Driving Tomorrow's Technology"
357 Team --- 5 --- Delphi "Driving Tomorrow's Technology"
71 Team ---- 5 --- Division Champion
1305 Team -- 5 --- Engineering Inspiration Award
330 Team --- 5 --- GM Industrial Design
343 Team --- 5 --- GM Industrial Design
2337 Team -- 3 --- Highest Rookie Seed
365 Team --- 7 --- Imagery
107 Team --- 5 --- J&J Sportsmanship
191 Team --- 5 --- J&J Sportsmanship
217 Team --- 5 --- J&J Sportsmanship
68 Team ---- 6 --- Judges' Award
103 Team -- 13 --- KPC&B Entrepreneurship
67 Team ---- 7 --- Leadership in Controls
27 Team ---- 6 --- Motorola Quality
60 Team ---- 6 --- Motorola Quality
207 Team --- 6 --- Motorola Quality
236 Team --- 6 --- Regional Chairman's Award
254 Team -- 16 --- Regional Champion
16 Team ---- 6 --- Regional Finalist
118 Team --- 6 --- Regional Finalist
368 Team --- 6 --- Regional Finalist
375 Team --- 6 --- Regional Finalist
48 Team ---- 7 --- Safety Award
88 Team ---- 5 --- Team Spirit Award
234 Team --- 8 --- Website Design Award
357 Team --- 3 --- Woodie Flowers Regional Award
365 Team --- 3 --- Woodie Flowers Regional Award
1114 Team -- 3 --- Woodie Flowers Regional Award
190 Team --- 6 --- Xerox Creativity

Carol 19-11-2009 14:04
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 883351)
Here are the teams that have won the most of each of the following awards and the number of times they have won.

Code:
Team --- # Wins --- Award
71 Team ---- 7 --- #1 Seed
103 Team --- 2 --- Autodesk Inventor Award
103 Team --- 8 --- Autodesk Visualization Award
192 Team --- 8 --- Autodesk Visualization Award
16 Team ---- 4 --- Chairman's Award Finalist
191 Team --- 2 --- Chairman's Award Winner
111 Team --- 2 --- Championship Finalist
254 Team --- 2 --- Championship Finalist
71 Team ---- 4 --- Championship Winner
33 Team ---- 5 --- Delphi "Driving Tomorrow's Technology"
357 Team --- 5 --- Delphi "Driving Tomorrow's Technology"
71 Team ---- 5 --- Division Champion
1305 Team -- 5 --- Engineering Inspiration Award
330 Team --- 5 --- GM Industrial Design
343 Team --- 5 --- GM Industrial Design
2337 Team -- 3 --- Highest Rookie Seed
365 Team --- 7 --- Imagery
107 Team --- 5 --- J&J Sportsmanship
191 Team --- 5 --- J&J Sportsmanship
217 Team --- 5 --- J&J Sportsmanship
68 Team ---- 6 --- Judges' Award
103 Team -- 13 --- KPC&B Entrepreneurship
67 Team ---- 7 --- Leadership in Controls
27 Team ---- 6 --- Motorola Quality
60 Team ---- 6 --- Motorola Quality
207 Team --- 6 --- Motorola Quality
236 Team --- 6 --- Regional Chairman's Award
254 Team -- 16 --- Regional Champion
16 Team ---- 6 --- Regional Finalist
118 Team --- 6 --- Regional Finalist
368 Team --- 6 --- Regional Finalist
375 Team --- 6 --- Regional Finalist
48 Team ---- 7 --- Safety Award
88 Team ---- 5 --- Team Spirit Award
234 Team --- 8 --- Website Design Award
357 Team --- 3 --- Woodie Flowers Regional Award
365 Team --- 3 --- Woodie Flowers Regional Award
1114 Team -- 3 --- Woodie Flowers Regional Award
190 Team --- 6 --- Xerox Creativity
Very interesting! Thanks for putting this together.

Unless otherwise stated, are these award counts combined regional/championship awards? For instance, I know 365 has won Imagery at Championship and at several regionals, so is the 7 the total number at both or just at the regional level?

How many of these awards are no longer given? Chairman's finalist is one that I noticed.

EricH 19-11-2009 14:22
Re: FIRST records
 
I'm pretty sure it's regional and championship. 330 only has 2 awards at championship, not counting competition-based awards, and only one of those is the Industrial Design; we're listed as having 5 of those, which would mean 4 regional and one Championships.

Mark McLeod 19-11-2009 14:27
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carol (Post 883370)
Unless otherwise stated, are these award counts combined regional/championship awards? For instance, I know 365 has won Imagery at Championship and at several regionals, so is the 7 the total number at both or just at the regional level?

How many of these awards are no longer given? Chairman's finalist is one that I noticed.
Yes, I collapsed some Regional/Championship awards, such as Imagery, into one generic category. Some of the awards with name changes, e.g., Leadership in Controls & Creativity, also were given a generic name.

There are some mistakes in this list too, so take it with a grain of salt.

I had a big long list of awards that are no longer given that I cut off this list. I just kept a couple of interesting ones around. I also dropped the Rookie awards, but some teams did win multiples of those too.

The original awards spreadsheet I posted earlier has all the old names and separations.

Francis-134 19-11-2009 15:09
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 883351)
Here are the teams that have won the most of each of the following awards and the number of times they have won.

Code:
Team --- # Wins --- Award
71 Team ---- 7 --- #1 Seed
103 Team --- 2 --- Autodesk Inventor Award
103 Team --- 8 --- Autodesk Visualization Award
192 Team --- 8 --- Autodesk Visualization Award
16 Team ---- 4 --- Chairman's Award Finalist
191 Team --- 2 --- Chairman's Award Winner
111 Team --- 2 --- Championship Finalist
254 Team --- 2 --- Championship Finalist
71 Team ---- 4 --- Championship Winner
33 Team ---- 5 --- Delphi "Driving Tomorrow's Technology"
357 Team --- 5 --- Delphi "Driving Tomorrow's Technology"
71 Team ---- 5 --- Division Champion
1305 Team -- 5 --- Engineering Inspiration Award
330 Team --- 5 --- GM Industrial Design
343 Team --- 5 --- GM Industrial Design
2337 Team -- 3 --- Highest Rookie Seed
365 Team --- 7 --- Imagery
107 Team --- 5 --- J&J Sportsmanship
191 Team --- 5 --- J&J Sportsmanship
217 Team --- 5 --- J&J Sportsmanship
68 Team ---- 6 --- Judges' Award
103 Team -- 13 --- KPC&B Entrepreneurship
67 Team ---- 7 --- Leadership in Controls
27 Team ---- 6 --- Motorola Quality
60 Team ---- 6 --- Motorola Quality
207 Team --- 6 --- Motorola Quality
236 Team --- 6 --- Regional Chairman's Award
254 Team -- 16 --- Regional Champion
16 Team ---- 6 --- Regional Finalist
118 Team --- 6 --- Regional Finalist
368 Team --- 6 --- Regional Finalist
375 Team --- 6 --- Regional Finalist
48 Team ---- 7 --- Safety Award
88 Team ---- 5 --- Team Spirit Award
234 Team --- 8 --- Website Design Award
357 Team --- 3 --- Woodie Flowers Regional Award
365 Team --- 3 --- Woodie Flowers Regional Award
1114 Team -- 3 --- Woodie Flowers Regional Award
190 Team --- 6 --- Xerox Creativity
Additionally, team 131 has won three regional WFA's: Dave Kelso, Andy Grady and Kristen Kelso (this past year).

Regardless, this is some of the best data I have seen. Great work!

Mark McLeod 19-11-2009 15:14
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis-134 (Post 883390)
Additionally, team 131 has won three regional WFA's: Dave Kelso, Andy Grady and Kristen Kelso (this past year).
Yea, you have to add 2009 to this. I haven't done that yet.
I plan on going through all of this awards data in the next couple of days looking to catch and correct the most glaring mistakes. Then I'll add in the 2009 data too.

FIRST doesn't have 2009 event awards data for Midwest, BAE, NJ, or Boston.

EricH 19-11-2009 15:28
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 883391)
FIRST doesn't have 2009 event awards data for Midwest, BAE, NJ, or Boston.
The Fantasy FIRST scoring sheets do, I believe. They were collected either the day of the event or in the week after when teams were missing. They're in CD-Media at http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2219; use the top Excel file.

Peter Matteson 19-11-2009 16:01
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 883351)
Here are the teams that have won the most of each of the following awards and the number of times they have won.

Code:
Team --- # Wins --- Award
71 Team ---- 7 --- #1 Seed
103 Team --- 2 --- Autodesk Inventor Award
103 Team --- 8 --- Autodesk Visualization Award
192 Team --- 8 --- Autodesk Visualization Award
16 Team ---- 4 --- Chairman's Award Finalist
191 Team --- 2 --- Chairman's Award Winner
111 Team --- 2 --- Championship Finalist
254 Team --- 2 --- Championship Finalist
71 Team ---- 4 --- Championship Winner
33 Team ---- 5 --- Delphi "Driving Tomorrow's Technology"
357 Team --- 5 --- Delphi "Driving Tomorrow's Technology"
71 Team ---- 5 --- Division Champion
1305 Team -- 5 --- Engineering Inspiration Award
330 Team --- 5 --- GM Industrial Design
343 Team --- 5 --- GM Industrial Design
2337 Team -- 3 --- Highest Rookie Seed
365 Team --- 7 --- Imagery
107 Team --- 5 --- J&J Sportsmanship
191 Team --- 5 --- J&J Sportsmanship
217 Team --- 5 --- J&J Sportsmanship
68 Team ---- 6 --- Judges' Award
103 Team -- 13 --- KPC&B Entrepreneurship
67 Team ---- 7 --- Leadership in Controls
27 Team ---- 6 --- Motorola Quality
60 Team ---- 6 --- Motorola Quality
207 Team --- 6 --- Motorola Quality
236 Team --- 6 --- Regional Chairman's Award
254 Team -- 16 --- Regional Champion
16 Team ---- 6 --- Regional Finalist
118 Team --- 6 --- Regional Finalist
368 Team --- 6 --- Regional Finalist
375 Team --- 6 --- Regional Finalist
48 Team ---- 7 --- Safety Award
88 Team ---- 5 --- Team Spirit Award
234 Team --- 8 --- Website Design Award
357 Team --- 3 --- Woodie Flowers Regional Award
365 Team --- 3 --- Woodie Flowers Regional Award
1114 Team -- 3 --- Woodie Flowers Regional Award
190 Team --- 6 --- Xerox Creativity
Mark, 177 and 217 also has 5 Division championships, did you just publish lowest team number for ties?

Lil' Lavery 19-11-2009 16:56
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 883351)
Here are the teams that have won the most of each of the following awards and the number of times they have won.

Code:
Team --- # Wins --- Award
71 Team ---- 7 --- #1 Seed
103 Team --- 2 --- Autodesk Inventor Award
103 Team --- 8 --- Autodesk Visualization Award
192 Team --- 8 --- Autodesk Visualization Award
16 Team ---- 4 --- Chairman's Award Finalist
191 Team --- 2 --- Chairman's Award Winner
111 Team --- 2 --- Championship Finalist
254 Team --- 2 --- Championship Finalist
71 Team ---- 4 --- Championship Winner
33 Team ---- 5 --- Delphi "Driving Tomorrow's Technology"
357 Team --- 5 --- Delphi "Driving Tomorrow's Technology"
71 Team ---- 5 --- Division Champion
1305 Team -- 5 --- Engineering Inspiration Award
330 Team --- 5 --- GM Industrial Design
343 Team --- 5 --- GM Industrial Design
2337 Team -- 3 --- Highest Rookie Seed
365 Team --- 7 --- Imagery
107 Team --- 5 --- J&J Sportsmanship
191 Team --- 5 --- J&J Sportsmanship
217 Team --- 5 --- J&J Sportsmanship
68 Team ---- 6 --- Judges' Award
103 Team -- 13 --- KPC&B Entrepreneurship
67 Team ---- 7 --- Leadership in Controls
27 Team ---- 6 --- Motorola Quality
60 Team ---- 6 --- Motorola Quality
207 Team --- 6 --- Motorola Quality
236 Team --- 6 --- Regional Chairman's Award
254 Team -- 16 --- Regional Champion
16 Team ---- 6 --- Regional Finalist
118 Team --- 6 --- Regional Finalist
368 Team --- 6 --- Regional Finalist
375 Team --- 6 --- Regional Finalist
48 Team ---- 7 --- Safety Award
88 Team ---- 5 --- Team Spirit Award
234 Team --- 8 --- Website Design Award
357 Team --- 3 --- Woodie Flowers Regional Award
365 Team --- 3 --- Woodie Flowers Regional Award
1114 Team -- 3 --- Woodie Flowers Regional Award
190 Team --- 6 --- Xerox Creativity
Is this still 2008 data? If it counts 2009 as well, 116 also has 8 Autodesk Visualization Awards. And by my count, 192 only has 6 AVAs, though that might result from the same reason why 116 only show 7 (old AVA rules allowed for teams to win AVA tropies at events they did not attend as regionals were grouped into "districts").

Mark McLeod 19-11-2009 17:30
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 883403)
Is this still 2008 data?
Yes, I still have a day job, so I haven't had time to extract and add the 2009 awards since Eric told me where to find the missing data around 2 o'clock. :rolleyes:
I crunch numbers at lunchtime, breaks, and after work, unless it's a 30 second task.

I'm teaching the control system to a rookie team tonight, so while I've grabbed the missing 2009 awards from FIRST Fantasy (thanks Eric), I probably won't have an updated list until tomorrow.

In the meantime you guys and gals might want to resist repeating that whole list each time you respond. It's making the thread a little hard to read.

P.S.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Matteson (Post 883398)
Mark, 177 and 217 also has 5 Division championships, did you just publish lowest team number for ties?
Sorry, Pete. I forgot to respond directly to your question too.
177 & 217's Division wins don't show up since there's no 2009 data included, and I made a mistake w/71's total of only 4. (Pete helped me figure that one out.)

This awards data also hasn't been vetted. I only took 5 minutes to throw together what I had handy, and didn't take especial care since I was already lacking the 2009 data anyway. There are some missing (and even duplicate awards)

I've integrated the 2009 data, but I'll do a first pass through the awards to verify it before I post an update.

If anyone has corrections, please PM or email them to me. Thanks.

Andrew Schreiber 19-11-2009 17:42
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 883405)
Yes, I still have a day job, so I haven't had time to extract and add the 2009 awards since Eric told me where to find the missing data around 2 o'clock. :rolleyes:
I crunch numbers at lunchtime, breaks, and after work, unless it's a 30 second task.

I'm teaching the control system to a rookie team tonight, so while I've grabbed the missing 2009 awards from FIRST Fantasy (thanks Eric), I probably won't have an updated list until tomorrow.

In the meantime you guys and gals might want to resist repeating that whole list each time you respond. It's making the thread a little hard to read.
Mark, I can give you any future award data in any format you want if this would make your job a little easier. As long as FIRST posts it I can get at it. Additionally, while the data is missing from the Event Awards page it is actually on the Team Data page. (http://www2.usfirst.org/2009comp/events/NH/awards.html and https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index....A5F6XsO26E683D respectively)

Just let me know if you want some help. (I figure it is rude not to offer since the data you have is helpful to everyone)

Molten 19-11-2009 18:04
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NickE (Post 883321)
Are you referring to 68 or 190. I'm not sure about the former, but 190 was certainly allowed in many matches, including the entire Silicon Valley Regional.
I was referring to 68.

techtiger1 19-11-2009 19:39
Re: FIRST records
 
I thought Pink did a pretty cool trick with pulling themselves all the way up for raising the bar in 2004. I don't think anyone got higher off the ground. Also one other thing that should have its own record is 190's 2004 auto mode which was a work of art.

-Drew

BrendanB 19-11-2009 19:59
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by techtiger1 (Post 883421)
I thought Pink did a pretty cool trick with pulling themselves all the way up for raising the bar in 2004. I don't think anyone got higher off the ground. Also one other thing that should have its own record is 190's 2004 auto mode which was a work of art.

-Drew
Second 190's 2004 robot, that machine was amazing. I can still remember when they finally got themselves up on the bar and how loud the audience yelled, and then even louder when they removed the the 2x ball from the opposing goal.

Ian Curtis 20-11-2009 00:00
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrendanB (Post 883422)
Second 190's 2004 robot, that machine was amazing. I can still remember when they finally got themselves up on the bar and how loud the audience yelled, and then even louder when they removed the the 2x ball from the opposing goal.
I remember that match too! That said, they were pretty hit or miss that year. We were really worried about playing them, but they fell over on the stairs in autonomous, making it a 2v1 match. That happened a few times at BAE, and I believe as the season progressed they gave up trying for the stairs in autonomous as it was too risky. I'm not surprised 190 has the most Xerox creativity awards, it seems every year they build something real out of the box that is just plain neat. Sometimes it excels (see 2007), and sometimes it falls flat (see 2005), but it is always neat to watch their crate open!

EricH 20-11-2009 00:44
Re: FIRST records
 
Pretty sure they were doing the stairs all through Phoenix, which was after BAE, but not actually hanging in auto. They'd get set, but not hang. 330 did the same sort of thing, but didn't use the steps; they went up the side and reached for the bar from the low step. (330 also couldn't move the ball from side to side, just knock it out.)

190's coolest device that year, though, was a laminated piece of paper known as the "Dean Device". It velcroed to a wheel and reached across the line so that they were technically in the proper starting position--touching the floor on both sides of the line--while the entire drivetrain was lined up with the steps. Said device was colored and shaped to match a denim-clad arm and hand reaching out and putting one finger down on the ground.

There is also a video around of them vaulting over team 237 at a post-season and hanging. It's pretty cool to watch.

RoboMaster 20-11-2009 01:10
Re: FIRST records
 
What about the fastest robot? I've heard something like 25mph from one team in 2008, and I believe they were the world champs. 2008 is the game for something like that.

EricH 20-11-2009 01:18
Re: FIRST records
 
If somebody had a 25 mph robot, they were going way too fast. That's about 36-37 feet per second, which puts you into the diamond plate on the other end before you even get up to speed. (54-foot field, minus about 3 feet for the robot length means that you hit at 1.39 seconds, and that's some killer acceleration, about 26 ft/second^2 or 0.818 g's.) 25 ft/second is more likely; few did that.

Now, the drag race winner was team 102, Gearheads. I'm not sure how fast their robot went, though.

RoboMaster 20-11-2009 01:27
Re: FIRST records
 
Hmm, yes I was thinking that maybe 25ft/sec was actually correct, but mph rings a clearer bell. But I think that was probably their top speed. During a match, 25ft/sec more accurate.

Well then, maybe we should say who had the fastest top speed and who had the fastest top speed in a match. And maybe average top speed. Acch, probably to complicated. Who has a really fast robot? :D

Here's another one: longest living robot. Does a team still have their robot from 1992?

Akash Rastogi 20-11-2009 01:38
Re: FIRST records
 
102 in 2008 was "geared for 30fps but goes 27fps" and according to a mentor was averaging 23fps per match.

Quote:
Originally Posted by RoboMaster (Post 883496)
Here's another one: longest living robot. Does a team still have their robot from 1992?
I believe both 190 and 126 still have their 1992 bots.

Francis-134 20-11-2009 01:45
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 883488)
Pretty sure they were doing the stairs all through Phoenix, which was after BAE, but not actually hanging in auto. They'd get set, but not hang. 330 did the same sort of thing, but didn't use the steps; they went up the side and reached for the bar from the low step. (330 also couldn't move the ball from side to side, just knock it out.)

190's coolest device that year, though, was a laminated piece of paper known as the "Dean Device". It velcroed to a wheel and reached across the line so that they were technically in the proper starting position--touching the floor on both sides of the line--while the entire drivetrain was lined up with the steps. Said device was colored and shaped to match a denim-clad arm and hand reaching out and putting one finger down on the ground.

There is also a video around of them vaulting over team 237 at a post-season and hanging. It's pretty cool to watch.
As the season progressed, the robot got better and better at hanging in autonomous. At Championships and the off-seasons, we were hanging with more consistency. While it was rather bang-bust, I would have to say that the bang was pretty well worth the occasional bust.

The device you describe is the "Kamen Straddling Device", or KSD for short. At kickoff that year, Dean asked teams to not be rules lawyers and to take the rules at face value. He pointed at the floor and said "This is straddling, this is not". We took that to heart and blew-up an image of Dean's arm, laminated it and used is for the KSD. I'll try and post a picture of it later. He even autographed one of them.

The video of us vaulting over 237 at RiverRage can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5nnGGRi-94&NR=1

Additionally, teams 190 and 126 still have their machines from that year. I believe team 191's is still at FIRST Place in Manchester.

EricH 20-11-2009 03:16
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis-134 (Post 883500)
While it was rather bang-bust, I would have to say that the bang was pretty well worth the occasional bust.
2004 had a special class of robots: the bar-blockers. Teams 64, 237, 330, 868, and 1266 (2004 rookie) were sliders; 190 simply got up and put out a pair of lexan arms atop the bar. 868 made it to Einstein that year. If one of those robots made it to the bar against you, you were 50 points in the hole with a chance of being 100 points in the hole. I believe all of them were picked for eliminations at at least one event just because of that. To make matters worse (or better), a couple of them could remove the doubler balls from their opponent's stationary goal, putting said opponent even further in the hole points-wise. Definitely worth the occasional bust, just for the points advantage (and the excitement of seing how the opponents would try to get up this time :p). As for which one was best, nobody really figured that one out at the time. 190 gets most effective, though, for the ball-stealing ability they had.

It was always exciting if two bar-blockers faced off. See the linked video for a prime example (190 vs 237). I know 330 and 190 met once in Arizona; 330 and 237 met once or twice in Atlanta; 330 and 1266 met a couple times at an offseason, but I don't think they met during the season. Not sure if 64 played against 330 or 190 at all that year; same for 868 playing any of the others.

The strategy was easy to beat, though, especially if there were ever two bar-blockers on the same alliance. You just had to use the mobile goals and double those. Fortunately, the small-ball/doubler ball robots were the usual partners for the bar-blockers and canceled out the other alliance's score. Or you just kept the blockers off the bar, though with them going out and partway up in auto, that was kind of tricky.

BrendanB 20-11-2009 09:14
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by iCurtis (Post 883480)
I remember that match too! That said, they were pretty hit or miss that year. We were really worried about playing them, but they fell over on the stairs in autonomous, making it a 2v1 match. That happened a few times at BAE, and I believe as the season progressed they gave up trying for the stairs in autonomous as it was too risky. I'm not surprised 190 has the most Xerox creativity awards, it seems every year they build something real out of the box that is just plain neat. Sometimes it excels (see 2007), and sometimes it falls flat (see 2005), but it is always neat to watch their crate open!
Yah, whenever they tipped over in auto, my grandfather would turn to me and say, "When will they ever learn that that won't work." But what made their first time up even more impressive/awesome was that whenever they did make it up and grab hold with their arm, they got stuck.:rolleyes:

Does anyone know how far up 233 went on the bar? I never got to see that robot but 190 also went up so that they could grab on with a mechanism on the top of their robot.

Oh, and when 501 came up under 190 and snapped a lexan wing in half so get up, that was pretty funny.

Mark McLeod 20-11-2009 10:54
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 883403)
And by my count, 192 only has 6 AVAs, though that might result from the same reason why 116 only show 7 (old AVA rules allowed for teams to win AVA tropies at events they did not attend ...
It's because of the different AVA rules in 2003.
I took a look at 192's award list and the current FIRST team database search doesn't return awards won at events a team didn't actually attend. It appears to be a flaw in FIRST's event query that uses only events as a key field, not any other fields, such as awards.

In 2003, 192 swept AVA at AZ, CA, SAC, SJ, WA, but only the wins at the two events they attended (AZ & SJ) show up if you seach by team. The individual event records show the 192 AVA awards at CA, SAC, and WA.

Nuttyman54 20-11-2009 11:48
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 883498)
I believe both 190 and 126 still have their 1992 bots.
Not only do both those robots still exist, they still run. At BattleCry@WPI 5 in 2004, there was a Maize Craze rematch between the two teams. I can't find the video of it right now, but I know it exists.

Michael Sperber 20-11-2009 12:35
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by iCurtis (Post 882480)
Buzz (175) has won at least one regional/field for the past 10 years. Except that one year, when they won the Chairman's award (this was prior to the existence of the Regional Chairman's award).
Buzz won the Championship Chairman's Award in 2002 which was the first year of the Regional Chairman's Award process.


BTW - this thread seems to be lacking in comments from Professor Grady.... Professor, where are you hiding?

Lil' Lavery 20-11-2009 13:33
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 883532)
It's because of the different AVA rules in 2003.
I took a look at 192's award list and the current FIRST team database search doesn't return awards won at events a team didn't actually attend. It appears to be a flaw in FIRST's event query that uses only events as a key field, not any other fields, such as awards.

In 2003, 192 swept AVA at AZ, CA, SAC, SJ, WA, but only the wins at the two events they attended (AZ & SJ) show up if you seach by team. The individual event records show the 192 AVA awards at CA, SAC, and WA.
Those 2003 rules were quite strange, I admit. It was an interesting feeling winning our first animation trophy at an event we didn't attend.

Here are some quick records that I think are correct (not horribly in depth research):

Most consecutive years winning same award: 11 years (1999-2009)
254 - Regional Champion Award
Active streak, and I imagine it will grow. Corrected from previous data which I didn't even bother to check with my common sense, just blindly followed FIRST site without thinking, doh!

Most times winning single award in a season: 5
192- Autodesk Award for Visualization (2003)
Won Arizona, Los Angeles, San Jose, Sacramento, and Washington due to 2003 AVA rules where animations were submitted at an event each week in your general region.

Most different regionals won: 7
254- Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Hawai'i, Houston, Sacramento, San Jose, Pacific Northwest
*67- Buckeye, Cass Tech District, Kettering District, Lansing District, Michigan State Championship, Great Lakes, Midatlantic/New Jersey
Data gets a little choppy before 2001, so I may be missing some. Also, the district system in 2009 makes 67's status hard to define (do districts count and is GLR separate from the state championship?).

Chris is me 20-11-2009 13:44
Re: FIRST records
 
Most consecutive regional wins?

Longest streak of regional wins from rookie year: 2056, 6 regionals

Mark McLeod 20-11-2009 13:45
Re: FIRST records
 
2009 data has been included now.
Here's an updated
Top Award Winners list:

Code:
Team ---    Wins --- Award
  71 Team --- 7 --- #1 Seed
 103 Team --- 3 --- Autodesk Inventor Award
 192 Team -- 10 --- Autodesk Visualization Award
 103 Team --- 8 --- Autodesk Visualization Award
 116 Team --- 8 --- Autodesk Visualization Award
  16 Team --- 4 --- Chairman's Award Finalist
 191 Team --- 2 --- Chairman's Award Winner
 111 Team --- 2 --- Championship Finalist
 254 Team --- 2 --- Championship Finalist
  71 Team --- 4 --- Championship Winner
 190 Team --- 6 --- Creativity
  25 Team --- 5 --- Delphi "Driving Tomorrow's Technology"
  33 Team --- 5 --- Delphi "Driving Tomorrow's Technology"
 357 Team --- 5 --- Delphi "Driving Tomorrow's Technology"
 177 Team --- 5 --- Division Champion
 217 Team --- 5 --- Division Champion
 135 Team --- 3 --- Division Finalist
  85 Team --- 3 --- Division Finalist
1305 Team --- 5 --- Engineering Inspiration Award
 178 Team --- 5 --- Engineering Inspiration Award
 812 Team --- 5 --- Engineering Inspiration Award
 330 Team --- 5 --- GM Industrial Design
 343 Team --- 5 --- GM Industrial Design
  67 Team --- 5 --- GM Industrial Design
2337 Team --- 3 --- Highest Rookie Seed
2753 Team --- 3 --- Highest Rookie Seed
 365 Team --- 7 --- Imagery
1024 Team --- 6 --- Imagery
 624 Team --- 6 --- Imagery
 107 Team --- 5 --- J&J Sportsmanship
 191 Team --- 5 --- J&J Sportsmanship
 217 Team --- 5 --- J&J Sportsmanship
 599 Team --- 5 --- J&J Sportsmanship
  93 Team --- 5 --- J&J Sportsmanship
  68 Team --- 7 --- Judges' Award
 103 Team --- 8 --- KPC&B Entrepreneurship
  67 Team --- 7 --- Leadership in Controls
 207 Team --- 7 --- Motorola Quality
 236 Team --- 7 --- Regional Chairman's Award
 254 Team -- 17 --- Regional Champion
 118 Team --- 7 --- Regional Finalist
 302 Team --- 7 --- Regional Finalist
2771 Team --- 4 --- Rookie All-Star
  48 Team --- 9 --- Safety Award
 191 Team --- 5 --- Team Spirit Award
 217 Team --- 5 --- Team Spirit Award
  88 Team --- 5 --- Team Spirit Award
 234 Team --- 9 --- Website Design Award
 131 Team --- 4 --- Woodie Flowers & Woodie Flowers Regional Award
 111 Team --- 3 --- Woodie Flowers Regional Award
1114 Team --- 3 --- Woodie Flowers Regional Award
 357 Team --- 3 --- Woodie Flowers Regional Award
 365 Team --- 3 --- Woodie Flowers Regional Award
 612 Team --- 3 --- Woodie Flowers Regional Award
I've made the updated speadsheet this was generated from available in case anyone wants to tease out any more record statistics. This data is better than what you get from FIRST nowadays, but some of the totals don't jive so I know there are omissions and typos. For instance, the Regional Woodie Flowers winners are not always associated with a team in the FIRST database, so I'll be going through those and adding them in.
If anyone finds errors please drop me a PM.

I'm sure I'll be making updates - adding missing info. and eventually 2010 awards, so this will be maintained on our webpage where we've collected all this sort of stuff and you'll be able to get the latest from there if you need it.
http://www.team358.org/files/frc_records/


If it makes anyone feel better, I forgot three awards for my own team 358.:eek:

EagleEngineer 12-01-2011 23:28
Re: FIRST records
 
Team 1138 had an amazing defensive robot in 2006 and they won the San Fernando Regional/Los Angeles Regional. They were not moved by any team and their drive base was amazing. Though they couldn't score much, they held their opponets down to less than 20 points in each match. With their amazing defense they allowed 968 and 4 to score lots of points. They held the epic alliance of team 330,599,and 995 down to only 23 points! While they allowed their alliance partners to score in the hundreds. :yikes: They win for best defensive robot in Aim High.

Molten 12-01-2011 23:58
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleEngineer (Post 998755)
Team 1138 had an amazing defensive robot in 2006 and they won the San Fernando Regional/Los Angeles Regional. They were not moved by any team and their drive base was amazing. Though they couldn't score much, they held their opponets down to less than 20 points in each match. With their amazing defense they allowed 968 and 4 to score lots of points. They held the epic alliance of team 330,599,and 995 down to only 23 points! While they allowed their alliance partners to score in the hundreds. :yikes: They win for best defensive robot in Aim High.
Please refer to my prior post #30 of this thread before anyone else chooses to revive this thread with bragging.

EricH 13-01-2011 01:53
Re: FIRST records
 
And for the record, I'm not quite certain I'd call 330's 2006 robot "epic".

Updating some records with 2010 data:
Consecutive regional wins: 254 continued their streak in 2010, making 12 years with at least one regional win. (They had two.)
To nobody's surprise, 177 landed on Einstein for the 6th consecutive time.
71 is still in the lead for most Championship wins, but 67 is closing in, and is tied for most consecutive Championship wins at 2.

Consecutive regional wins (rookie year start): 2056 added two more to bring their total to 8 regionals, plus a division win.

67 added a district to their most different regionals won; Detroit District makes #8.

Koko Ed 13-01-2011 01:59
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beth Sweet (Post 882691)
Team 67- First team to win on Einstein and Championship Chairmans in the same year (2005)
Team 144 (who has returned after since 2004. Though the mentors of that team went on to form 1038) is the first FIRST team to win a championship Chairmans (1996) and a championship(1994). From what I'm told they almost won both the same year in 1996.

Peter Matteson 13-01-2011 08:48
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 998828)
To nobody's surprise, 177 landed on Einstein for the 6th consecutive time.
Thanks for the compliments, but it still surprises us when it happens.

It was actually 5 in a row for 6 total the first was the year divisions were created back in 2001:
2001- Galileo
2006- Galileo
2007- Newton
2008- Archimedes
2009- Newton
2010- Newton

EagleEngineer 17-01-2011 01:07
Re: FIRST records
 
just cause 254 and 233 have not won the championships yet, "I've gotta feeling" that they will win this year. Both. :yikes: Yes i quoted Will-i-am.

Peter Matteson 13-06-2011 15:05
Re: FIRST records
 
Time to revive a thread because I came up with a couple new ones that we hadn't pointed out yet:

Most consecutive appearances in the Championship Final:
3 - Team 67 (2008-10)
This has got to be one of the most impressive feats in all of FIRST

Teams to Win All 5 Championship divisions (including Einstein):
217 became the first team to complete this feat this year.

Update:
Most Appearances on Einstein:
7 - Team 177
6 - Team 217

Chris is me 13-06-2011 15:21
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleEngineer (Post 1001664)
just cause 254 and 233 have not won the championships yet, "I've gotta feeling" that they will win this year.
50-50 ain't so bad.

I believe 2056 has the most regional wins without a Championship now.

akoscielski3 14-06-2011 12:13
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1065555)
I believe 2056 has the most regional wins without a Championship now.
How many do they have know. I think they will do it in the next few years!

sgreco 14-06-2011 12:21
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by akoscielski3 (Post 1065649)
How many do they have know. I think they will do it in the next few years!
They have 10. They've won two regionals every year from '07-'11.

thefro526 14-06-2011 12:38
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sgreco (Post 1065651)
They have 10. They've won two regionals every year from '07-'11.
Actually 2056 has won 11 Regionals, 2 wins each year from 2007 to 2010 and 3 wins this year at FLR, Waterloo and GTR West.

Starke 14-06-2011 12:42
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Molten (Post 882393)
Anyone know a robot that was just amazing at something? Perhaps it had the strongest drive train, most unorthodox approach to the game, fastest scorer, or anything else noteworthy?
Most unorthodox should go to Mad Cow Robotics for their rotary walker drivetrain from 2003 - 2005.

See pictures below and link here.

Duke461 14-06-2011 13:12
Re: FIRST records
 
461 is the only team to win 2 World Best Website Awards ('06 and '10), if anyone cares about website awards......:p

Also, going along with 2056, not only do they have 11 regional wins, but they have never lost a regional (at least according to TBA). And they have never placed worse than 2nd at IRI (again, ref. TBA) . There's no way anyone else has placed at least 2nd everytime at IRI with at least 3 appearances.

P.S. I love how 2056's name is OP Robotics, because as all gamers know, OP mean over-powered, which is very accurate.
P.P.S. Yes, i know that it actually stands for Orchard Park :P

Kearse 14-06-2011 14:49
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duke461 (Post 1065657)
Also, going along with 2056, not only do they have 11 regional wins, but they have never lost a regional (at least according to TBA). And they have never placed worse than 2nd at IRI (again, ref. TBA) . There's no way anyone else has placed at least 2nd everytime at IRI with at least 3 appearances.
2056 has lost in both the semi-finals (2008), and the quarter-finals (2009) of IRI.

$wimmer3138 14-06-2011 16:14
Re: FIRST records
 
And they were finalists last year with 1114, 1086, and 3138

Duke461 14-06-2011 16:52
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by $wimmer3138 (Post 1065668)
And they were finalists last year with 1114, 1086, and 3138
Yes, thats why i said no worse than 2nd, or in other words, finalists.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kearse (Post 1065662)
2056 has lost in both the semi-finals (2008), and the quarter-finals (2009) of IRI.
Ah, my bad. skipped over those. But still, amazing job :)

EricH 14-06-2011 18:57
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duke461 (Post 1065657)
Also, going along with 2056, not only do they have 11 regional wins, but they have never lost a regional (at least according to TBA).
That's correct. Sooner or later that streak will end... But I highly doubt that it will be soon. Considering that it started when they were rookies...

Duke461 14-06-2011 22:54
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1065678)
That's correct. Sooner or later that streak will end... But I highly doubt that it will be soon. Considering that it started when they were rookies...
Yeah.....probably later haha. Just an amazing feat. I'd like to meet the mentors behind that team. Not saying its not because of the students or anything like that, but did some well-known team get them started, like 1114, or someone awesome like that? ;) In other words, anyone know the history of their team?
[storytime][/storytime]

Travis Hoffman 15-06-2011 04:12
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duke461 (Post 1065703)
Yeah.....probably later haha. Just an amazing feat. I'd like to meet the mentors behind that team. Not saying its not because of the students or anything like that, but did some well-known team get them started, like 1114, or someone awesome like that? ;) In other words, anyone know the history of their team?
[storytime][/storytime]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEi4y...el_video_title

This doesn't tell the whole story of 2056's origin by any means but the student in the vest on 1114's drive team - Tyler Holtzman - would be 2056's lead engineering mentor and drive team coach now.

Adam Freeman 15-06-2011 11:00
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman (Post 1065726)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEi4y...el_video_title

This doesn't tell the whole story of 2056's origin by any means but the student in the vest on 1114's drive team - Tyler Holtzman - would be 2056's lead engineering mentor and drive team coach now.
In the video, it appears that Tyler is calming Karthik down. Seems backwards that the students are calming the coach down. :eek:

I guess Tyler was wise beyond his years. Probably why he is one of the best coaches out there now.

dodar 15-06-2011 11:06
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starke (Post 1065654)
Most unorthodox should go to Mad Cow Robotics for their rotary walker drivetrain from 2003 - 2005.

See pictures below and link here.
Didnt 71 have one of those for the 2002 year? And I would have to say the most unique/unorthodox should go to 190 for their ball-slinger-lasso thing for 2008(which ended up being deemed an illegal strategy if I remember correctly)

Karthik 15-06-2011 14:07
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Freeman (Post 1065741)
In the video, it appears that Tyler is calming Karthik down. Seems backwards that the students are calming the coach down. :eek:
Trust me, I was calm. :P

A very cool fact about that match. There were two future WFFA Einstein coaches who were student drivers in that match. Can anyone spot the other?

As for the story of 2056, their lead teacher Stan Hunter attened 1114 meetings as an observer for the entire 2006 build season. That summer 1114, led by then college mentor Tyler Holtzman build a new Aim High robot as a summer prototype. This robot was then used by 2056 at an off-season event that they entered as a pre-rookie team, with Tyler coaching them. 2056 was then mentored by 1114 for the 2007 season, but it was really the guidance provided by Stan and Tyler that got them started on their meteoric ascent.

GCentola 15-06-2011 14:40
Re: FIRST records
 
I would like to say that, at FLR this year, we had a practice match scheduled with 2056. This was, unfortunately, the only time we worked with them because they would then proceed to choose an amazing alliance and head to the finals against us in 3 great matches. Before the practice match, I was talking with Tyler and it was clear that he knew exactly what he was doing. Because of this, I had a large amount of respect for him, and as a student coach, I found the conversation a great learning opportunity.

Chris is me 15-06-2011 14:41
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Karthik (Post 1065758)
Trust me, I was calm. :P

A very cool fact about that match. There were two future WFFA Einstein coaches who were student drivers in that match. Can anyone spot the other?
Pat driving for 296?

EricH 15-06-2011 19:19
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1065744)
Didnt 71 have one of those for the 2002 year? And I would have to say the most unique/unorthodox should go to 190 for their ball-slinger-lasso thing for 2008(which ended up being deemed an illegal strategy if I remember correctly)
71's file card drive in 2002 was (one of) the reasons that no metal is allowed to contact the floor in traction devices to this day. How to move them: You Don't.

190's 2008 robot was deemed both legal and illegal, depending on event. IIRC, you couldn't break the plane of the lane divider in 2008--they wound up having to change their robot or strategy to not do that.

However, most unique/unorthodox is now a split.
469, 2010--the only immovable diverter that could also shoot goals.
190, 2004--the ONLY robot that could hang from the bar (50 points), block other robots from getting onto the bar (no points for opponents, but add 50 points for a partner), and steal a doubler ball off of a goal and plant it onto their own (doubles your goal points, halves your opponent's), all at the same time. Other teams could do 2 (usually hang and doubler; the few that did hang and block were very good at doing it); nobody else did all 3.

bam-bam 15-06-2011 20:10
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1065801)
190, 2004--the ONLY robot that could hang from the bar (50 points), block other robots from getting onto the bar (no points for opponents, but add 50 points for a partner), and steal a doubler ball off of a goal and plant it onto their own (doubles your goal points, halves your opponent's), all at the same time. Other teams could do 2 (usually hang and doubler; the few that did hang and block were very good at doing it); nobody else did all 3.
Isn't that what 868 did also that year?

EricH 15-06-2011 20:21
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bam-bam (Post 1065810)
Isn't that what 868 did also that year?
868 was one of the 2-fers: They had no means of stealing the doubler ball.

64, 190, 237, 330, 868, and 1266 could all block the bar while hanging. 190 and 330 could remove the doubler. But only 190 could place the doubler on their own goal. To make matters worse for their opponents, you just about had to stop them in autonomous mode, and that meant climbing onto their 6" step before they did.

Al Skierkiewicz 16-06-2011 08:06
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1065801)
71's file card drive in 2002 was (one of) the reasons that no metal is allowed to contact the floor in traction devices to this day. How to move them: You Don't.
All you had to do was push from the side or back. Pushed into the field side, they were not able to maneuver. File cards can't steer. 111 managed to do exactly that in Chicago but lost the match when our human player gave them additional points in the heat of the match.

Although the file cards did fluff up the carpet a little, it was the cleats and other anchor devices that teams used that penetrated the carpet and damaged the floor beneath. One such incident damaged a newly painted basketball court as I remember. There was a team that actually used circular saw blades for wheels one year.

Lil' Lavery 18-06-2011 18:09
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1065801)
However, most unique/unorthodox is now a split.
469, 2010--the only immovable diverter that could also shoot goals.
2992.
51.

EricH 18-06-2011 19:08
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1066095)
2992.
51.
If either one had a kicker, I'll retract my statement. But IIRC, neither one did. 469 kicked, scored by redirecting, and couldn't be gotten out of the tunnel without an awful lot of work (or leaving on their own).

Oh, and 125 was also a hanging diverter.

Duke461 18-06-2011 19:41
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1066102)
If either one had a kicker, I'll retract my statement. But IIRC, neither one did. 469 kicked, scored by redirecting, and couldn't be gotten out of the tunnel without an awful lot of work (or leaving on their own).

Oh, and 125 was also a hanging diverter.


Maybe revise and say the only diverter that reliably scored goals/could easily direct the path of balls. 70, 494, and many others could also easily redirect goals.

Andrew Schreiber 18-06-2011 19:47
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1066102)
If either one had a kicker, I'll retract my statement. But IIRC, neither one did. 469 kicked, scored by redirecting, and couldn't be gotten out of the tunnel without an awful lot of work (or leaving on their own).

Oh, and 125 was also a hanging diverter.
51 had a kicker and a diverter (hung to divert).

2337 also had a diverter that functioned both while they were on the ground and when the were waiting for people to suspend off them.

Both were immovable once they hung. Both were relatively strong scorers without their diverter.

EricH 18-06-2011 20:05
Re: FIRST records
 
Seeing as I can't edit my previous post:

469 was the most reliable (and feared) tunnel-blocking diverter in 2010.

@Duke: I don't count the many slope-side diverters in the same category as the dedicated diverters like 469, 51, and 125. There's a pretty big difference between having a sloped side to simply bounce the balls in the general direction you want them to go and being able to put the ball in the goal using a diversion channel. Could they divert? Yes. Could they score and divert at the same time? They did need luck on their side.

Duke461 18-06-2011 20:10
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1066108)
Seeing as I can't edit my previous post:

469 was the most reliable (and feared) tunnel-blocking diverter in 2010.

@Duke: I don't count the many slope-side diverters in the same category as the dedicated diverters like 469, 51, and 125. There's a pretty big difference between having a sloped side to simply bounce the balls in the general direction you want them to go and being able to put the ball in the goal using a diversion channel. Could they divert? Yes. Could they score and divert at the same time? They did need luck on their side.
I agree, thats why i suggested a clearer way of putting it. I knew what you meant when referencing 469. However, lavery brought up 2992 and i had never seen their bot before, and not one of the pics from Nationals was from the front side so i couldnt really tell if they could score or not. Sorry for the confusion. ;)

Lil' Lavery 19-06-2011 02:50
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A couple examples of 2992:

http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2010cur_qm32
http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2010cur_qm69

Chris is me 19-06-2011 11:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1066102)
If either one had a kicker, I'll retract my statement. But IIRC, neither one did.
This is completely wrong. They both did, that's how both of them won their events.

Molten 20-06-2011 01:35
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Reported

Molten 20-06-2011 12:01
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The more I think about it, the more profound the spam was. It was essentially talking about recording oneself while playing an instrument so it was in a different context, but I'd like to bring up what it said. It said that recording can be both an ego boost and humbling. I think the same is true for setting a record. It can certainly be an ego boost but it can also be humbling. Sometimes realizing what your capable of just shows how much more there is to do. I mean, great that you did well at robotics but now what? The fact that you set a record worthy of being noted means that you got talent. With that, you have responsibility. You should be pleased that you did well, but think on to what next. That is where you get both an ego boost and humbled at the same time.

Who knew spam could be so profound?

Jason

Al Skierkiewicz 21-06-2011 08:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Molten (Post 1066258)
It said that recording can be both an ego boost and humbling.
Jason
Many years ago I had the good fortune to meet the father of magnetic recording, Marvin Camras. He started out by devising a method to record his cousin singing opera in the bathroom. His cousin thought himself a great singer but didn't know how he sounded to others. Marvin devised a method of recording on a wire stretched between two trees in the back yard. The recording head was attached to pulleys that rolled down the wire from one tree to another. From that beginning, Marvin went on to develop magnetic recording receiving more than 500 patents over his lifetime. His patents covered magnetic recording on floppy disc and hard drives. He also wrote a paper in 1962 titled "Magnetic recording and reproduction - 2012 A.D.". In this paper he predicted mass storage of audio and video in devices no bigger than a pack of cards with no moving parts.

kirtar 05-07-2011 00:49
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Originally Posted by Duke461 (Post 1065657)
461 is the only team to win 2 World Best Website Awards ('06 and '10), if anyone cares about website awards......:p
I do. Oh wait I was on the website team :P

sciencenuetzel 28-10-2015 17:29
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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1065678)
That's correct. Sooner or later that streak will end... But I highly doubt that it will be soon. Considering that it started when they were rookies...
So this post is about 5 yes old, but Eric was correct. The 2056 streak continues at 22 wins. Currently the 4th most of all time and the longest consecutive.

I am wondering what other records are out there these days...

Hallry 28-10-2015 17:40
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Originally Posted by sciencenuetzel (Post 1502068)
The 2056 streak continues at 22 wins. Currently the 4th most of all time and the longest consecutive.
Note that this is 22 wins out of 22 total regionals attended. At every single regional 2056 has competed at, they've went home with a blue banner.

Briansmithtown 28-10-2015 19:12
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We had an unorthodox attempt at the 2014 game

Darkseer54 28-10-2015 20:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sciencenuetzel (Post 1502068)
So this post is about 5 yes old, but Eric was correct. The 2056 streak continues at 22 wins. Currently the 4th most of all time and the longest consecutive.

I am wondering what other records are out there these days...
Actually, this year 1114 tied 254 for the most blue banners overall, both having 39.


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