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EricH 17-11-2009 20:19
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 883034)
That being said, I don't know 190's 08 robot nor have I been able to find anything about it.
They would go out to their overpass and grab one of their trackballs. They would then drop it to the ground on the far side of their overpass and immediately pick it up, then put it up over the center divider and swing it in a large circle over their opponent's overpass and the center divider and their own overpass, drop it and pick it up again, and continue. They had to do this without crossing the center divider with their robot, due to a Q&A, and their robot's drive simply got them to their parking spot. Think a wrecking ball and you'll be pretty close.

2008 had possibly the most argued overall designs with two; 1519's initial design was ruled illegal and many people thought that it wasn't. (By the letter of the rules, it was almost completely legal due to a circular definition; by the spirit of the rules, it was obviously illegal. The circular definition was eliminated for the 2009 season.) Both the robots involved in said design were pretty successful at off-season events.

Least-liked penalty: tie between 2008's <G22> (direction of travel enforcement, 10 points) and 2005's contact in loading zone penalty, not-so-affectionately dubbed the Kiss of Death (30 points). Let's just say that those two could change the winner of a match really easily--and often did. If you had the loading-zone penalty in 2005, you'd probably lose the match no matter how well you did. Two of them in a match would guarantee most teams a zero score.

Nuttyman54 17-11-2009 20:23
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 883034)
I respectfully disagree. (68 2003)

That being said, I don't know 190's 08 robot nor have I been able to find anything about it.
Here is the 91 post debate discussing our mechanism that year.

Also, while we're throwing out subjective suggestions on biggest upset, I nominate the quarterfinals knockout of 1070, 254 and 692 by 766, 488 and 852 at SVR 2007. This marked the only time to date 254 did not win the San Jose regional.

Chris is me 17-11-2009 20:30
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrendanB (Post 883039)
Chris, if you don't know what it is, then don't disagree.
I actually thought it was (oddly enough) 1519's dual config robot, then edited my post when I remembered that was 1519 not 190.

BrendanB 17-11-2009 20:38
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 883048)
I actually thought it was (oddly enough) 1519's dual config robot, then edited my post when I remembered that was 1519 not 190.
HAHA... let's leave that one closed. Speed Racer good times, good times.:p

Molten 17-11-2009 21:00
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 883048)
I actually thought it was (oddly enough) 1519's dual config robot, then edited my post when I remembered that was 1519 not 190.
I actually thought back to the same thing. Just wasn't sure of the number.

BrendanB 17-11-2009 21:24
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Molten (Post 883051)
I actually thought back to the same thing. Just wasn't sure of the number.
Yah, it can get confusing. I realized that two of the few teams with rules issues went to the same regional.:)

EricLeifermann 17-11-2009 21:35
Re: FIRST records
 
What about teams with really unique drive trains or mechanisms?

i know the technokats 45 had a second ball drive train that they loaned to a team at the Midwest regional in 2003. They had like big inflatable balls from like walmart or something that they used to move around, it was quite cool to watch move. The balls did like to come out though if the robot got hit to hard or at a bad angle.

EricH 17-11-2009 22:47
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricLeifermann (Post 883058)
What about teams with really unique drive trains or mechanisms?

i know the technokats 45 had a second ball drive train that they loaned to a team at the Midwest regional in 2003. They had like big inflatable balls from like walmart or something that they used to move around, it was quite cool to watch move. The balls did like to come out though if the robot got hit to hard or at a bad angle.
I believe that they were actually metal balls that were coated. There's a thread on it somewhere.

Ian Curtis 17-11-2009 23:10
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricLeifermann (Post 883058)
What about teams with really unique drive trains or mechanisms?
My socks still get knocked off every time I think about 1771 in 2008. The large majority of attempts at suction mechanisms in FRC fail miserable. 1771 built what can only be called an incredible success.

Andrew Schreiber 18-11-2009 00:01
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 883034)
I respectfully disagree. (68 2003)

That being said, I don't know 190's 08 robot nor have I been able to find anything about it.
I'll second this, knowing both robots I have to say, not only were they both controversial but 68's was a work of ART, having a structure that size unfold and stay under weight was pure genius.

Quote:
Originally Posted by iCurtis (Post 883072)
My socks still get knocked off every time I think about 1771 in 2008. The large majority of attempts at suction mechanisms in FRC fail miserable. 1771 built what can only be called an incredible success.
Yeah, that robot sucked.

Akash Rastogi 18-11-2009 00:34
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 883067)
I believe that they were actually metal balls that were coated. There's a thread on it somewhere.
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/15197

Dr Theta 18-11-2009 03:46
Re: FIRST records
 
I believe team 2418 also implemented a rather effective vacuum device in their 2008 robot. They were one of my personal favorite robots at the Minnesota regional, a really effectively implemented strategy in what was their rookie year.

Mark McLeod 18-11-2009 10:31
Re: FIRST records
 
How about number of awards?
These totals don't have the 2009 awards added in yet, but here are the award totals by team from 1992 through the 2008 season.
FRC has given out a grand total of 6825 trophies in those years.

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1831 ---- 1
1836 ---- 1
1851 ---- 1
1856 ---- 1
1862 ---- 1
1870 ---- 1
1872 ---- 1
1873 ---- 1
1876 ---- 1
1884 ---- 1
1887 ---- 1
1894 ---- 1
1895 ---- 1
1896 ---- 1
1897 ---- 1
1898 ---- 1
1899 ---- 1
1905 ---- 1
1909 ---- 1
1911 ---- 1
1917 ---- 1
1926 ---- 1
1929 ---- 1
1930 ---- 1
1937 ---- 1
1940 ---- 1
1944 ---- 1
1952 ---- 1
1954 ---- 1
1955 ---- 1
1957 ---- 1
1960 ---- 1
1963 ---- 1
1970 ---- 1
1972 ---- 1
1975 ---- 1
1981 ---- 1
1988 ---- 1
1989 ---- 1
1995 ---- 1
2002 ---- 1
2004 ---- 1
2023 ---- 1
2026 ---- 1
2027 ---- 1
2031 ---- 1
2032 ---- 1
2034 ---- 1
2037 ---- 1
2038 ---- 1
2039 ---- 1
2041 ---- 1
2057 ---- 1
2061 ---- 1
2063 ---- 1
2064 ---- 1
2066 ---- 1
2067 ---- 1
2075 ---- 1
2078 ---- 1
2084 ---- 1
2089 ---- 1
2091 ---- 1
2103 ---- 1
2104 ---- 1
2111 ---- 1
2116 ---- 1
2128 ---- 1
2130 ---- 1
2133 ---- 1
2135 ---- 1
2147 ---- 1
2150 ---- 1
2151 ---- 1
2156 ---- 1
2157 ---- 1
2158 ---- 1
2159 ---- 1
2162 ---- 1
2168 ---- 1
2178 ---- 1
2180 ---- 1
2183 ---- 1
2187 ---- 1
2188 ---- 1
2191 ---- 1
2193 ---- 1
2196 ---- 1
2200 ---- 1
2201 ---- 1
2203 ---- 1
2214 ---- 1
2216 ---- 1
2224 ---- 1
2229 ---- 1
2231 ---- 1
2232 ---- 1
2236 ---- 1
2239 ---- 1
2242 ---- 1
2250 ---- 1
2252 ---- 1
2260 ---- 1
2261 ---- 1
2265 ---- 1
2274 ---- 1
2275 ---- 1
2276 ---- 1
2278 ---- 1
2279 ---- 1
2280 ---- 1
2330 ---- 1
2333 ---- 1
2338 ---- 1
2341 ---- 1
2342 ---- 1
2359 ---- 1
2360 ---- 1
2363 ---- 1
2365 ---- 1
2368 ---- 1
2373 ---- 1
2375 ---- 1
2380 ---- 1
2385 ---- 1
2387 ---- 1
2390 ---- 1
2394 ---- 1
2400 ---- 1
2404 ---- 1
2407 ---- 1
2410 ---- 1
2411 ---- 1
2412 ---- 1
2418 ---- 1
2421 ---- 1
2422 ---- 1
2423 ---- 1
2424 ---- 1
2428 ---- 1
2429 ---- 1
2431 ---- 1
2436 ---- 1
2443 ---- 1
2444 ---- 1
2447 ---- 1
2448 ---- 1
2454 ---- 1
2455 ---- 1
2456 ---- 1
2458 ---- 1
2461 ---- 1
2472 ---- 1
2473 ---- 1
2474 ---- 1
2481 ---- 1
2484 ---- 1
2486 ---- 1
2489 ---- 1
2493 ---- 1
2497 ---- 1
2500 ---- 1
2505 ---- 1
2518 ---- 1
2523 ---- 1
2528 ---- 1
2549 ---- 1
2550 ---- 1
2556 ---- 1
2574 ---- 1
2576 ---- 1
2580 ---- 1
2581 ---- 1
2594 ---- 1
2596 ---- 1
2603 ---- 1
2605 ---- 1
2612 ---- 1
2617 ---- 1
2621 ---- 1
2624 ---- 1
2626 ---- 1
2629 ---- 1
2632 ---- 1
2633 ---- 1
2637 ---- 1
2638 ---- 1
2648 ---- 1
2659 ---- 1
2660 ---- 1
2668 ---- 1
2675 ---- 1
P.S.
Now for the drawbacks of these award tallys...
Some of the early award information from FIRST is pretty skimpy, but it's better than what the current FIRST database has available nowadays. Some known awards haven't been correlated to modern day team numbers and added into this list. I'm also not sure how Michigan district event awards are handled in the current FIRST database.

Attached is a database dump of the awards tally I used.
P.S. If you want to send me corrections, please do. I'll incorporate them.

Chris is me 18-11-2009 14:27
Re: FIRST records
 
That's a pretty nifty list you got there. Cool facts that really don't matter: 1714's the most decorated 2006 rookie team. :D (Granted, we have one more than 1902, whom opted out of a second Rookie All-Star award. We would have done the same if we knew we could win a second one.)

Interesting data. I wonder who "wins" on trophies / year average?

JB987 18-11-2009 15:05
Re: FIRST records
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 883163)
That's a pretty nifty list you got there. Cool facts that really don't matter: 1714's the most decorated 2006 rookie team. :D (Granted, we have one more than 1902, whom opted out of a second Rookie All-Star award. We would have done the same if we knew we could win a second one.)

Interesting data. I wonder who "wins" on trophies / year average?
Probably better to determine ratio of awards per regionals/cmps attended as opposed to trophies/year since so many teams (especially now that we have districs) compete in a lot more events per year than others?


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