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Rick TYler 20-11-2009 20:27

Re: Team 254's New Website
 
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Originally Posted by NickE (Post 883632)
Thanks for catching out. That information appears to be pretty outdated. I'll update it now.

No problem. I forget to add "the new site is terrific -- clean, informative, and easy to navigate. Two thumbs up."

Gary.C 20-11-2009 23:05

Re: Team 254's New Website
 
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Originally Posted by synth3tk (Post 883593)
True, they could add a few things here-and-there, and maybe they still have things to add. But using a purchased skin without deep customizations may not be a necessarily bad thing, as long as the skin functions and looks how they want it. That's not to say they shouldn't add or change anything, but that sometimes buying things and putting them together can be just as rewarding.

Even though purchasing skins can be rewarding, and have a nice, slick professional look. I think it should be used for maintaining corporate site's and professional business'. In FIRST, why not put in the extra time to make sites from scratch. Not necessarily Notepad, but other programs made for web design.

You can learn a lot of CSS and HTML, and even Javascript by making a site by scratch. It might not be the cleanest looking site on the block, but at least you can be proud of being able to make a website. It's fine to use snippets and Javascript plugins, but there is a point where most of the web designing should come down to you. Other people may have a different opinion on this than me, but I personally believe that it should be done on your own or as a team, not just taking other people's templates and modifying the contents.

synth3tk 20-11-2009 23:17

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It depends on the needs, though. Some teams want/need a website up (their sponsors may require a blog or something to show progress), but don't have the time or students to spend on the project. Yeah, it'd be nice to learn that stuff, but sometimes, just purchasing it gets the job done. Not every team wants to apply for the website award.

AdamHeard 20-11-2009 23:22

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We'll take a copy in orange Nick.

Sure beats our "site".

Akash Rastogi 20-11-2009 23:27

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Guys, just keep in mind not to cut down on 254's work. Remember that the judges also look for outstanding content and resources provided by the host team, and 254 has done an excellent job of that.

Just +$0.02

NickE 21-11-2009 10:32

Re: Team 254's New Website
 
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Originally Posted by CHI DONG08 (Post 883654)
It might not be the cleanest looking site on the block, but at least you can be proud of being able to make a website.

Why can I not be proud of this website?
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Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 883659)
Remember that the judges also look for outstanding content and resources provided by the host team

This is very true, Akash. My team and I are very proud of this website. We have worked very hard on it to bring all of the content, pictures, videos and more into one location. We used a Skinned CMS with many free open source integrated components and several custom components.

Its questionable as to whether or not we are eligible for the website award in the first place, as our extensive VEX team may violate the rule stating that the website "must be dedicated exclusively to the activities of a FIRST robotics team," or something to that effect.

Akash Rastogi 21-11-2009 11:12

Re: Team 254's New Website
 
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Originally Posted by NickE (Post 883697)
Its questionable as to whether or not we are eligible for the website award in the first place, as our extensive VEX team may violate the rule stating that the website "must be dedicated exclusively to the activities of a FIRST robotics team," or something to that effect.

Its been argued on here before that if FIRST really cares about STEM then it shouldn't matter what form of programs the team supports. If I were judging I would just see it as part of your team's activities and initiatives to spread STEM education, not just FIRST. Might want to ask someone about it.

ironbears 21-11-2009 11:42

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Great website, our programmers have also been busy making a new website.

Check it out.

www.team854.ca

BrendanB 21-11-2009 11:52

Re: Team 254's New Website
 
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Originally Posted by NickE (Post 883697)
content, pictures, videos .

Videos? I didn't even see that the first time... I know where i'll be tonight.;)

Chris is me 22-11-2009 05:23

Re: Team 254's New Website
 
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Originally Posted by NickE (Post 883697)
Its questionable as to whether or not we are eligible for the website award in the first place, as our extensive VEX team may violate the rule stating that the website "must be dedicated exclusively to the activities of a FIRST robotics team," or something to that effect.

My team has a fairly noticeable portion of our site (more than one page) dedicated to our (non-FIRST) Midwest Vex League participation, and we have won the Website Award before (back in 2007). I doubt it's much of an issue.

Eugene Fang 22-11-2009 12:41

Re: Team 254's New Website
 
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Originally Posted by NickE (Post 883697)
Its questionable as to whether or not we are eligible for the website award in the first place, as our extensive VEX team may violate the rule stating that the website "must be dedicated exclusively to the activities of a FIRST robotics team," or something to that effect.

Yeah, last year's rules had something about how a website had to be dedicated to FIRST activities, like you said, but I don't think it resulted in disqualification if you didn't; you just lost those 5 or so points.


However, I don't see that phrase anywhere on the 2010 criteria.

http://usfirst.org/uploadedFiles/Com...20 manual.pdf

dqmot17 22-11-2009 16:11

Re: Team 254's New Website
 
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Originally Posted by Pikat (Post 883799)
Yeah, last year's rules had something about how a website had to be dedicated to FIRST activities, like you said, but I don't think it resulted in disqualification if you didn't; you just lost those 5 or so points.


However, I don't see that phrase anywhere on the 2010 criteria.

http://usfirst.org/uploadedFiles/Com...20 manual.pdf

Well, those are FIRST teams, so i dont think it matters. I would think it looks good to show that you are actively involving your team in the community spreading science and technology (;))

Eugene Fang 22-11-2009 16:33

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Originally Posted by dqmot17 (Post 883819)
Well, those are FIRST teams, so i dont think it matters.

Are you referring to the VEX teams? 254 participates in VEX, not FTC.


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Originally Posted by dqmot17 (Post 883819)
I would think it looks good to show that you are actively involving your team in the community spreading science and technology (;))

Yeah, like what Akash said about FIRST and STEM a few posts up.

dqmot17 22-11-2009 16:47

Re: Team 254's New Website
 
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Originally Posted by Pikat (Post 883822)
Are you referring to the VEX teams? 254 participates in VEX, not FTC.

Yes, but in past years we've given a list of community involvement, and i would say that counts. And we've won an award every year since 2005


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