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Bsteckler 21-11-2009 20:26

Oh Dear, I Have an Idea
 
So I was pondering the news for the past week, and I have come across an idea that would definitely fit the GDC's mold of going outside the box to mess with our minds:

Think, what event was recently in the news concerning NASA? That's right, finding water on the moon.

Now, before you say "Oh no, not another person dreaming up a water game", consider this:

Imagine, if you will, a two-liter soda bottle, filled about 1/2 to 3/4 of the way with water or any other type of liquid. This creates a game piece with, you guessed it, dynamic characteristics. Now imagine several dozen of those, and you have the basis for my idea. After this, the goal could be as simple as hording those pieces and attempting to steal them from the other alliance, or building something with them. We all know the challenges that can be faced with handling an object with predictable traits (center of gravity, force required to move it, etc.), now imagine having to do that all over again with objects that can shift in transit. Add to this the low-friction floor that we saw last year (created to simulate the low gravity of moon driving), and you have what could be a team's biggest nightmare in terms of engineering, but quite a thrill to watch and play.

Quote from Dave: "And I would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for those dang kids!".

Jamie Kalb 21-11-2009 20:46

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I just love it when someone starts out with "Oh Dear, I Have an Idea." :)

Dynamic characteristics is a very interesting thought. My only concern is that the bottles would have to have quite a seal, or it would quickly turn into a water game. :D

Other than that, this could totally work. Very interesting...

Steven Sigley 21-11-2009 20:57

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Well they could be bottles or objects filled with sand. Still get the unpredictability without having to dry the carpets.

Molten 21-11-2009 22:18

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Originally Posted by Steven Sigley (Post 883744)
Well they could be bottles or objects filled with sand. Still get the unpredictability without having to dry the carpets.

Couldn't sand getting into the electronics cause many of the same problems?

Stephen of REX 21-11-2009 22:21

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Originally Posted by Molten (Post 883753)
Couldn't sand getting into the electronics cause many of the same problems?

Instead of causing shorts, you'd simply stop all the fans. Melted electronics anyone?

biojae 21-11-2009 22:27

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Well, that sounds a little like rug rage (1993)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rug_Rage

The hoarding and manipulation is all there,
along with water filled balls.

BrendanB 21-11-2009 22:36

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Bash at the Beach was held at the beach a long time ago... safe to say that they figured out that sand and robots don't mix too well.;)

ChuckDickerson 21-11-2009 22:55

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Forget sand or water and plastic bottles. Just take a PVC tube, stick a ball bearing inside and cap each end. Instant cheap scoring object that everyone can make as many of as they want. No mess and dynamically changing COG. Make some short, make some longer for different point values, etc. No more scavenger hunts at WalMarts for the illusive orbit balls, etc. either. Kind of like this: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/22847

Rion Atkinson 21-11-2009 23:28

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I think a water bottle is to small.. What about a huge ball such as in Overdrive filled with water? Or better yet! Helium!

dtengineering 21-11-2009 23:49

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What about those inflatable "punch'em" dummies?

Admittedly thin-skinned inflatables don't last too long around robots, even when they are being careful... but I like the off-centre COG concept.

Although, when you were mentioning "finding water on the moon", I was expecting a contest to see how fast a robot could smash into the end wall... the team mates would have to analyze the results before they, too, were smashed into the wall.

Speaking of which, I'm sure the whole idea behind the mission was a bunch of engineers sitting around going "wouldn't it be cool to smash a rocket into the moon as fast as we can?" and then going "so how could we JUSTIFY doing it?"

Jason

Andrew Schreiber 22-11-2009 00:00

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Originally Posted by dtengineering (Post 883770)
Although, when you were mentioning "finding water on the moon", I was expecting a contest to see how fast a robot could smash into the end wall... the team mates would have to analyze the results before they, too, were smashed into the wall.

You mean 68 hasn't already won that game? Id say moving the field would be hard enough... and that was hitting the side they started on.

GaryVoshol 22-11-2009 06:43

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Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 883772)
You mean 68 hasn't already won that game? Id say moving the field would be hard enough... and that was hitting the side they started on.

703 in Aim High would be in contention. They had the bonus of being on an upward trajectory from the ramp.

Wayne C. 22-11-2009 11:17

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Originally Posted by dtengineering (Post 883770)
What about those inflatable "punch'em" dummies?

BTDT

Attn Dave and GDC- the groundswell is growing for "Send in the Clowns"-

look for the old white paper on it or posts from CD from around 2002

WC :D

dlavery 22-11-2009 14:01

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Originally Posted by Wayne C. (Post 883795)
BTDT

Attn Dave and GDC- the groundswell is growing for "Send in the Clowns"-

look for the old white paper on it or posts from CD from around 2002

WC :D

I seem to remember that much of that discussion centered around inflatable clowns on staircases. Stairs did show up a few years later. So it would seem that the only part not yet realized from that original concept would be the inflatable clowns. Which, I would point out, float very nicely.

-dave



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Rich Kressly 22-11-2009 16:17

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Originally Posted by dlavery (Post 883805)
I seem to remember that much of that discussion centered around inflatable clowns on staircases. Stairs did show up a few years later. So it would seem that the only part not yet realized from that original concept would be the inflatable clowns. Which, I would point out, float very nicely.

-dave
.

evil little man...
No, they don't float nicely. They have weighted bottoms. They may "bob" nicely, but that's another story...and the version of the clown game I like wasn't on stairs. It was the one where you stuffed as many into an old VW Beetle body in the center of the field as possible. Now, no one ever said the clowns couldn't go in a boat instead, though, but I digress...


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