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O'Sancheski 29-04-2010 18:35

Re: Team of the Decade
 
67... They always perform well year in and year out... I mean, back to back World championships isn't to bad...
217... They also always build a bot up to the standards that FIRST strives for... the regional and divisional wins, plus the two World Championships is enough to make me happy
1114... They are on of the most dominating teams the past 3 or 4 years... Plenty of Regional Wins, a few Division titles, and a World Championship under their belt is enough to be in contention
177... This team doesn't get enough credit... They have made it to Einstein the past 5 years, and have won Championships twice... They might not perform as well in their regionals, but they always come up in Atlanta
2056... This team from Canada has not lost a regional in the history of the team... they finally won a division title this year and performed very well on Einstein
254... This team is insane... 20 regional wins.. a bunch of division titles... This team just takes it all...

So my pick would probably have to be 67... If you have any comments just ask

ATannahill 29-04-2010 18:37

Re: Team of the Decade
 
Uhh, I might be wrong but I think we're in a new decade. I would wait at least seven years before considering a team for the 2010s.

O'Sancheski 29-04-2010 18:59

Re: Team of the Decade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 959024)
Uhh, I might be wrong but I think we're in a new decade. I would wait at least seven years before considering a team for the 2010s.

yeah, i know... i'm just saying the past 5-10 years or so... i know that its a new decade but this is just what i think that the best teams have been... before this decade, I had not been a part of CD, so i just wanted to state this... i just didn't want to start a whole new post just for that

sorry for continuing the post revival though

Koko Ed 29-04-2010 19:51

Re: Team of the Decade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 959024)
Uhh, I might be wrong but I think we're in a new decade. I would wait at least seven years before considering a team for the 2010s.

67 has a good start on the next decade then.

JABot67 29-04-2010 22:57

Re: Team of the Decade
 
Doesn't the next decade start in 2011? I mean, I was always taught that the third millennium started in 2001 rather than 2000. If you think about it, the first decade was years 1-10, the second decade was years 11-20, third was years 21-30, and so on, because there was no year zero. I mean if you say that a decade goes from ???0 to ???9, it really doesn't make sense because the first decade would have been only nine years long.

Just a nitpick; I hate to do it in a thread that contains such positive reviews of my team. I love this thread.

jblay 29-04-2010 23:14

Re: Team of the Decade
 
I would have to say 330. They always have the simplest designs and do great things with them. The fact that they have so much success and their lathe is a mentor just blows me away.

67 is a close second for me because of their tremendous success for so many years. When I think about almost all of the last couple of years and what design I would do if i could redo the year it is almost always very similar to 67's design.

177 for being that perfect puzzle piece for 5 alliances 5 years in a row.

RandomStyuff 30-04-2010 09:23

Re: Team of the Decade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dlavery (Post 889399)
I think the role for strongest supporter of FIRST has to go to Autodesk. Nobody else is even a close second. Think about it - they have donated full-function versions of their software to every FRC team for the past 18 years. Over the years, that has totaled up to over 12,500 teams* receiving their software. The number of software seats per team has been increasing over the years but a conservative estimate of 65,000 seats is reasonable, based on the years that Autodesk provided 1, 5, 10 or unlimited seats per team. At an average price of $8,000 per seat** that is $520 million dollars worth of products that Autodesk has donated to FIRST teams. Yup - they have provided over half a BILLION dollars of support for this program.
...

Not to take anything away from Autodesk: it hasn't exactly not profited them either. The software, not being a physical product doesn't really cost them anything (not many teams would have bought the software at full cost had it not been provided... my team certainly can't even dream of budgets for that), and the added value to them is amazingly large: thousands of young engineers are trained with their software and used to it before entering collage. That means they now have a greater chance of choosing Autodesk Inventor for example over the competitors for CAD work in the future, buying a full license! Microsoft has pretty much the same thing with operating systems and office suits: the kids get used to it from the start, and it's harder to switch to a different one.

So, no, I'm not saying we shouldn't thank Autodesk; we should thank them and they deserve more thanks than they usually get. But it's not 100% a gesture of pure donation, but also partially for business purposes.

If a man saves a cat because cares about the cat, and another man saves a cat because he wants the cat's owner to like him, both still did a good thing. Now if the man saves the cat because he wants the owner to like him AND he cares about the cat (which I believe is the case with Autodesk), even better!

Alan Anderson 30-04-2010 17:37

Re: Team of the Decade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JABot67 (Post 959086)
Doesn't the next decade start in 2011? I mean, I was always taught that the third millennium started in 2001 rather than 2000. If you think about it, the first decade was years 1-10, the second decade was years 11-20, third was years 21-30, and so on, because there was no year zero. I mean if you say that a decade goes from ???0 to ???9, it really doesn't make sense because the first decade would have been only nine years long.

Just a nitpick; I hate to do it in a thread that contains such positive reviews of my team. I love this thread.

You are correct -- if you're counting decades. That's how millennia and centuries are typically referred to, as "20th Century" and "Third Millennium" and the like. But we're not talking about the "201st Decade" here. Like the "1930s" or the "1970s", we're just labeling a convenient group of ten consecutive years. We're talking about the "2000s", the decade that begins with the year 2000 and ends with 2009.

We now return to the General Forum "Team of the Decade" thread, already in progress.

waialua359 30-04-2010 21:24

Re: Team of the Decade
 
Best all-around team that started in the 2000's. I'd vote MOE 365. Their stat sheet is mighty long.

Jim Zondag 07-05-2010 17:31

Re: Team of the Decade
 
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2383


In an attempt to answer the "Team of the Decade" question, I put together some analysis on the past 10 years of FRC Championships and posted the whitepaper at the link above.

I used the 2010 FiM point system against the Draft and Elimination results for all 10 years of Championship Elims. The results provide a 10 year point total, as well as a time derated result for each of the 395 teams who have played in Elims at the Championship in this time.
Team 67 comes out #1 in both cases & Team 217 is #2 in both cases.

Obviously, there are no firm rules to determine who is the best, but given a choice, an Engineer should always go to the numbers.
Enjoy.

nikeairmancurry 07-05-2010 18:13

Re: Team of the Decade
 
Jim + numbers = great results.

Mike Schreiber 07-05-2010 18:43

Re: Team of the Decade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Zondag (Post 960831)
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2383

Team 67 comes out #1 in both cases & Team 217 is #2 in both cases.

Obviously, there are no firm rules to determine who is the best, but given a choice, an Engineer should always go to the numbers.
Enjoy.

Plus a chairman's, that can't hurt. My vote also goes out to 67, although 71 and 217 are close.

Peter Matteson 08-05-2010 10:00

Re: Team of the Decade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Zondag (Post 960831)
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2383


In an attempt to answer the "Team of the Decade" question, I put together some analysis on the past 10 years of FRC Championships and posted the whitepaper at the link above.

I used the 2010 FiM point system against the Draft and Elimination results for all 10 years of Championship Elims. The results provide a 10 year point total, as well as a time derated result for each of the 395 teams who have played in Elims at the Championship in this time.
Team 67 comes out #1 in both cases & Team 217 is #2 in both cases.

Obviously, there are no firm rules to determine who is the best, but given a choice, an Engineer should always go to the numbers.
Enjoy.

Jim,
Thanks for the great info. I found it interesting that teams 2-4 on the list in the time weighted average are almost in a dead heat with a separation of only 3 points. To me the 2 biggest surprises were were the 2056 had already cracked the top 10 and 71 was not in the top 10 in the time weighted version but were #3 in overall points.

AKaul 08-05-2010 11:53

Re: Team of the Decade
 
Top 5 for me:
1. 67
2. 71
3. 217
4. 1114* (remember these guys started in 2003)
5. 254*

Notable mention: 2056

I really can't decide between 1114 and 254... so I'll leave it to you guys to decide!


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