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martinswat1806 24-12-2009 15:57

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I think this years game will be a lot like 2005.
I looks like they cycle the style. the trailers from last year were similar to part of the field in 2004.

Chris is me 24-12-2009 15:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RoboMaster (Post 890429)
I really think that someone should play around with this on the technical side. Photoshop, encryption. Use your 2009 fish hint skills!!

I have been. Playing with the colors results in just the lexan reflecting what's already visible in the picture, and nothing else.

Eugene Fang 24-12-2009 15:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RoboMaster (Post 890429)
I really think that someone should play around with this on the technical side. Photoshop, encryption. Use your 2009 fish hint skills!!



Could someone explains what this means? I don't see any lean in the lexan... Is it leaning forwards? Or do you just mean the whole part is rotated for a diagonal view?

He means that the lexan is not perpendicular in relationship to the tubes, or else the reflection on the top "bump" of the lexan wouldn't be at the angle it is at.

ATannahill 24-12-2009 16:03

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Instead of dealing with the image, lets look at the object.

martinswat1806 24-12-2009 16:15

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Maybe they have a series of these stacked on top of each other which are randomly adjusted kind of like the ball placement in 2008.

ebmonon36 24-12-2009 16:17

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For all of those who think <Admiral Ackbar>It's a track! </Admiral Ackbar>, see this thread to help your case:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=78803

Eric

Tetraman 24-12-2009 16:22

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I'm just posting this cause it came to mind: If there are multiple hints, like two others, I'm sure that they will also be some kind of piture like this, and each of the three pictures of game elements combine together, like a puzzle, to form something.

Because this is the best I've come up with so far, I'm calling this is something the Human Player interacts with, like a slingshot mechanism or "loading dock" object.

jerry w 24-12-2009 16:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pikat (Post 890434)
He means that the lexan is not perpendicular in relationship to the tubes, or else the reflection on the top "bump" of the lexan wouldn't be at the angle it is at.

(OK i am the software guy, so i didn't say it right!!)
Yes the tubes are fastened at an angle with respect to the tab on the lexan. When the tab is fastened to a vertical support, the track will have a small tilt. The reflection shows double the actual angle. So it should not be too hard to determine the rolling angle of the track.

Eugene Fang 24-12-2009 16:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jerry w (Post 890441)
(OK i am the software guy, so i didn't say it right!!)
Yes the tubes are fastened at an angle with respect to the tab on the lexan. When the tab is fastened to a vertical support, the track will have a small tilt. The reflection shows double the actual angle. So it should not be too hard to determine the rolling angle of the track.

So the angle is really tiny.

Is the lexan not screwed in perpendicular to the tubes? Or is the lexan attached perpendicularly, but the first bend is not perpendicular to the ground? I really can't tell where the bend is occurring (though there obviously has to be one).

What does everyone think?

RoboMaster 24-12-2009 16:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ebmonon36 (Post 890438)
For all of those who think <Admiral Ackbar>It's a track! </Admiral Ackbar>, see this thread .....
Eric

Hmm, yes, Dave Lavery's Morse code posts and some people referencing them to trains and train tracks early on..... I still think that's a bit of a stretch. But I do think the hint as a ball track is still a possibility.

viking 24-12-2009 16:36

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In 2007 was the game hint an actual photograph or was it CAD? I am not finding it my files at home.

My question is....why would they send us a CAD drawing and not a actual photo of the field element?

Taylor 24-12-2009 16:38

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The 'reflection' in the Lexan is not a reflection at all. It's a refraction of the bar directly behind it. Thus the 30* angle.

I'm still curious, why use Lexan at all? The materials used are as much a hint as the geometry of the pieces. Transparency is needed at that point - could this structure be mounted near the drivers' station? Going with the ball-track idea, perhaps the game pieces are elevated along the drivers' station wall and the teams would need to see through it to see how many objects are there.

-Theory-

The robots' starting configuration is restricted vertically (60 inches); the robots must expand upwards in some way to retrive the game pieces that are located higher than the drivers' heads (7 feet). Throughout the game, the Human Players may replenish the game object track which is mounted along the drivers' station wall. After retrieving the game piece(s) the robots must collapse back down to go under an obstacle to get to the scoring goal, located at the center of the field.
The scoring goal is similar in looks to a disc golf goal, but on a much larger scale, with a device on top that the cameras can detect autonomously. The game objects are alliance-colored (blue and red).

Eugene Fang 24-12-2009 16:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by viking (Post 890445)
In 2007 was the game hint an actual photograph or was it CAD? I am not finding it my files at home.

My question is....why would they send us a CAD drawing and not a actual photo of the field element?

It was rendered:

http://www.usfirst.org/uploadedImage.../2007Clue1.jpg

Eugene Fang 24-12-2009 16:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Taylor (Post 890446)
The 'reflection' in the lexan is not a reflection at all. It's a refraction of the bar directly behind it.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure, it wouldn't physically refract like that.

gallo26 24-12-2009 16:42

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I'm not sure now... I like the track thing. Now if people continued to run with this idea...

That just seems like a LOT of stuff on one field. I dont understand what would be done with the track. Would it be around the perimeter of the field? Up high? Where we get the game elements? Or where we place them? end game? Soo many questions...


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