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infinitydex 08-01-2010 00:25

Re: 2010 Game Hint #2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JimWright949 (Post 894167)
Hmmm. What if the gate is not a gate but instead of a gait (a manner of walking).

Which leads me back to my game theory I shaired with the Washington State FIRST board last night:
O Walking robots, no wheels allowed.
O 3x3x3 matches (yep 9 teams on the field)
O The robots will have to 'launch' bowling balls around the field.
O In order to involve more chemistry students, the 'launching'
mechanism for the bowling balls have to be a chemical reaction and not mechanical.
O There isn't a speed limit on the speed of the bowling balls,
however there is a limit on the chemicals that a team can use to cause the reaction.

ok ok ok, maybe just the first point is valid.

-Jim

chemical reactions!!!:yikes: i cant see in first robotics that they would have a chemestry class. walking robots seem alittle out there but now that i look at the first hint that may be possible. rods are legs, center piece that bent 90 degree as a hip, and the center whole as a joint.:D :cool: :] :confused:

EricH 08-01-2010 00:31

Re: 2010 Game Hint #2
 
I think I'll put that chemical reaction suggestion into my proposal for a 2012 water game. Something about how many different H2O-triggered reactions can you get without a big mess, and then what can you do with the products.

gaby1367 08-01-2010 00:36

Re: 2010 Game Hint #2
 
i think that they are gonna add a new alliance to the game so instead of 2v2 its 3v3

infinitydex 08-01-2010 00:48

Re: 2010 Game Hint #2
 
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Originally Posted by gaby1367 (Post 894188)
i think that they are gonna add a new alliance to the game so instead of 2v2 its 3v3

last year it was 3 vs 3 not 2 vs 2. y is i a new to have 3 vs 3 :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

Elgin Clock 08-01-2010 00:53

Re: 2010 Game Hint #2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gaby1367 (Post 894188)
i think that they are gonna add a new alliance to the game so instead of 2v2 its 3v3

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinitydex (Post 894191)
last year it was 3 vs 3 not 2 vs 2. y is i a new to have 3 vs 3 :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

I believe Gaby meant to say 3 separate teams. Red, Blue, & possibly some other color.
That would then make 2v2v2, and not 3v3.
We already have 3v3. :)

qwertyuiop[]\ 08-01-2010 08:14

Re: 2010 Game Hint #2
 
all this hint means is that we are going to have the same walls and that the floor is going to be carpet. nothing else. no depth. everything is at the surface. This is only even a hint because of last years game.

Don Wright 08-01-2010 08:28

Re: 2010 Game Hint #2
 
Or maybe 1 vs 1 vs 1 vs 1 vs 1 vs 1...

So, no official alliances, but if you help another team, you can get Coopertition points...

Chris is me 08-01-2010 08:50

Re: 2010 Game Hint #2
 
Plenty of people have proposed that the game will be 2x2x2, but has anyone suggested the game would be 4v4 with smaller robots?

This theory matches the "10 qualifying rounds for every regional" blog post of yesteryear. Haagen Daas cups have been resized recently to become smaller... hmm.

viper110110 08-01-2010 09:57

Re: 2010 Game Hint #2
 
I noticed in the shipping rules that the max height for the crate was 6 feet including the bottom 4x4s. If your crate is 6 feet tall with 4 inch supports and about an inch of plywood, your bot can't have a height of 6 feet unless you disassemble it. I think we are going to have smaller bots this year.

dodar 08-01-2010 09:59

Re: 2010 Game Hint #2
 
how do you come to that solution, you robot can only be a max of 5ft tall. That is more than enough room in that situation for your crate to fit your robot

viper110110 08-01-2010 10:05

Re: 2010 Game Hint #2
 
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Originally Posted by dodar (Post 894234)
how do you come to that solution, you robot can only be a max of 5ft tall. That is more than enough room in that situation for your crate to fit your robot

Oh my mistake, I thought in the past it has always been 6 feet. At least we know that the robots won't be any bigger this year.

Robert Cawthon 08-01-2010 10:10

Re: 2010 Game Hint #2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 894219)
Plenty of people have proposed that the game will be 2x2x2, but has anyone suggested the game would be 4v4 with smaller robots?

This theory matches the "10 qualifying rounds for every regional" blog post of yesteryear. Haagen Daas cups have been resized recently to become smaller... hmm.

Yes, several people have, in other threads and, I believe, this one, but I don't feel like looking back to verify. There has been speculation of 4v4 or 5v5 with smaller bots. The 5v5 could have teams 4 and 5 placed on a higher level between the first three teams. Whatever one would think of, the free thinkers on this site have probably thought of it and some would even post it and admit to it. I am one of these people. 24 hrs!! :confused:

Taylor 08-01-2010 10:14

Re: 2010 Game Hint #2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JimWright949 (Post 894167)
Hmmm. What if the gate is not a gate but instead of a gait (a manner of walking).

I'm surprised not many people have made more of this. The clues haven't been attacked as creatively as they have in the past. Recalling 2006's clue (the "a shovel's show" line in particular), as well as Dave's morse-ing, perhaps we should be taking a more abstract look at what's been presented to us, rather than accepting two CAD renderings at face value.

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Originally Posted by viper110110 (Post 894240)
Oh my mistake, I thought in the past it has always been 6 feet. At least we know that the robots won't be any bigger this year.

Perhaps, but it is not uncommon for robots to extend beyond their original starting dimensions, particularly vertically. The 2009 game was a HUGE abberation in that regard.

vic burg 08-01-2010 10:33

Re: 2010 Game Hint #2
 
So, I am kind of late on this but:
Pretty sure we are just being teased again. Although it is nice to know that we *should* have carpet again. It's easier to set up in my opinion.... lol
Did think about possibly a third gate, but a) that would be extra work for the field crew and they would have to remake how many fields? (only by a small bit, but still extra work), b) would they REALLY allow humans onto the field during a match? and c) what would be the purpose, really? I mean, if it's for the game pieces, I don't think that they would be that big or heavy to the point that they need to be pushed through a gate.

Lil' Lavery 08-01-2010 12:21

Re: 2010 Game Hint #2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jamie_1930 (Post 894127)
In my opinion overdrive was fine, it had a lot more to do with coming up with ways to capture, move, and hurdle the tracks balls, then it had to do with NASCAR. It seems to have lacked creativity when you think of it at first, but it made for an interesting game, have you ever seen so many robots tip over before?

I saw plenty of robots tip in 2004, 2005, and 2006. Heck, 2009 is basically the only game where robot tippings were infrequent in quite some time.


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