Chief Delphi

Chief Delphi (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/index.php)
-   Technical Discussion (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=22)
-   -   2010 5th Gear FRC Match Simulator (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79796)

harpal1991 20-02-2010 19:21

Re: 2010 5th Gear FRC Match Simulator
 
i am having a problem with installation. when i downloaded it i installed phyx on my pc and separately installed the .net 3.5 and the xna and till when i run the setup.exe i get the application install security warning; and when i press install its gives me a message saying "application cannot be started. please contact the application vendor" here is the detail file

Code:

PLATFORM VERSION INFO
        Windows                        : 6.0.6002.131072 (Win32NT)
        Common Language Runtime        : 2.0.50727.4200
        System.Deployment.dll                : 2.0.50727.4016 (NetFxQFE.050727-4000)
        mscorwks.dll                        : 2.0.50727.4200 (NetFxQFE.050727-4200)
        dfdll.dll                        : 2.0.50727.4016 (NetFxQFE.050727-4000)
        dfshim.dll                        : 2.0.50727.4016 (NetFxQFE.050727-4000)

SOURCES
        Deployment url                        : file:///C:/Users/habby/Documents/Downloads/Compressed/5thGear2010v2_1/5thGear.application
        Application url                        : file:///C:/Users/habby/Documents/Downloads/Compressed/5thGear2010v2_1/Application%20Files/5thGear_2_1_0_212/5thGear.exe.manifest

IDENTITIES
        Deployment Identity                : 5thGear.application, Version=2.1.0.212, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=0000000000000000, processorArchitecture=x86
        Application Identity                : 5thGear.exe, Version=2.1.0.212, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=0000000000000000, processorArchitecture=x86, type=win32

APPLICATION SUMMARY
        * Installable application.

ERROR SUMMARY
        Below is a summary of the errors, details of these errors are listed later in the log.
        * Activation of C:\Users\habby\Documents\Downloads\Compressed\5thGear2010v2_1\5thGear.application resulted in exception. Following failure messages were detected:
                + Store metadata "DeploymentSourceUri" is not valid.

COMPONENT STORE TRANSACTION FAILURE SUMMARY
        No transaction error was detected.

WARNINGS
        * The manifest for this application does not have a signature. Signature validation will be ignored.
        * The manifest for this application does not have a signature. Signature validation will be ignored.

OPERATION PROGRESS STATUS
        * [2/20/2010 5:57:14 PM] : Activation of C:\Users\habby\Documents\Downloads\Compressed\5thGear2010v2_1\5thGear.application has started.
        * [2/20/2010 5:57:14 PM] : Processing of deployment manifest has successfully completed.
        * [2/20/2010 5:57:14 PM] : Installation of the application has started.
        * [2/20/2010 5:57:14 PM] : Processing of application manifest has successfully completed.
        * [2/20/2010 5:58:27 PM] : Request of trust and detection of platform is complete.
        * [2/20/2010 5:58:29 PM] : Downloading of subscription dependencies is complete.
        * [2/20/2010 5:58:29 PM] : Commit of the downloaded application has started.

ERROR DETAILS
        Following errors were detected during this operation.
        * [2/20/2010 5:58:30 PM] System.Deployment.Application.DeploymentException (SubscriptionState)
                - Store metadata "DeploymentSourceUri" is not valid.
                - Source: System.Deployment
                - Stack trace:
                        at System.Deployment.Application.ComponentStore.GetPropertyString(DefinitionAppId appId, String propName)
                        at System.Deployment.Application.ComponentStore.GetPropertyUri(DefinitionAppId appId, String propName)
                        at System.Deployment.Application.ComponentStore.GetSubscriptionStateInternal(DefinitionIdentity subId)
                        at System.Deployment.Application.SubscriptionStore.GetSubscriptionStateInternal(SubscriptionState subState)
                        at System.Deployment.Application.ComponentStore.CollectCrossGroupApplications(Uri codebaseUri, DefinitionIdentity deploymentIdentity, Boolean& identityGroupFound, Boolean& locationGroupFound, String& identityGroupProductName)
                        at System.Deployment.Application.SubscriptionStore.CommitApplication(SubscriptionState& subState, CommitApplicationParams commitParams)
                        at System.Deployment.Application.ApplicationActivator.InstallApplication(SubscriptionState& subState, ActivationDescription actDesc)
                        at System.Deployment.Application.ApplicationActivator.PerformDeploymentActivation(Uri activationUri, Boolean isShortcut, String textualSubId, String deploymentProviderUrlFromExtension, BrowserSettings browserSettings, String& errorPageUrl)
                        at System.Deployment.Application.ApplicationActivator.ActivateDeploymentWorker(Object state)

COMPONENT STORE TRANSACTION DETAILS
        No transaction information is available.


Chris is me 20-02-2010 20:06

Re: 2010 5th Gear FRC Match Simulator
 
This may be too much to ask, but could I suggest a controls revamp?

For all but one driving mode, both joysticks are in use, so using the face buttons for ball manipulation is a bit difficult. Could the shoulder buttons be used for that? LB return, RB grab, RT fire?

Also, arcade drive with one thumbstick is a little difficult. In most FRC applications, arcade turning is assigned to the other stick anyway. Could that be done in 5th gear?

gblake 24-02-2010 07:41

Re: 2010 5th Gear FRC Match Simulator
 
Folks - We have updated the 2.1 5th Gear release - See here 5G Version 2.1.1 Announcement

Subscribing to the FIRST 5th Gear Forum (and to this thread) would be a good idea if you want to keep up with new releases.

Blake

gblake 24-02-2010 07:45

Re: 2010 5th Gear FRC Match Simulator
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by harpal1991 (Post 924802)
i am having a problem with installation. when i downloaded it i installed phyx on my pc and separately installed the .net 3.5 and the xna and till when i run the setup.exe i get the application install security warning; and when i press install its gives me a message saying "application cannot be started. please contact the application vendor" here is the detail file

Code:

PLATFORM VERSION INFO
...
No transaction information is available.


harpal - I'm not sure if we intentionally did anything that would fix the problem you reported; but we would appreciate it if you would download and try the latest release (2.1.1) to see if the problem you reported got fixed as a side effect of the other fixes.

Let us know in the FIRST 5th Gear forum or here how it turns out.

Thanks
Blake

harpal1991 24-02-2010 19:23

Re: 2010 5th Gear FRC Match Simulator
 
hey thanks for the reply and i have tried downloading the new version of the app but still the same problem presists. if you guys could do me a favor caop all the files in the instrall folder and send video a uploading service just to see if i have all the files

Alex_Miller 02-03-2010 20:54

ATI Vid Card
 
is it possible to play this with an ATI card? Seeing as how you need the Nvidia Physx engine and all..

lachoneus8 03-03-2010 10:13

Re: ATI Vid Card
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterAlex (Post 930705)
is it possible to play this with an ATI card? Seeing as how you need the Nvidia Physx engine and all..

Yes. PhysX uses NVidia hardware if it is available, but if not it will process the physics using software emulation (slower, but should run just fine).

playbass06 05-03-2010 21:32

Re: 2010 5th Gear FRC Match Simulator
 
By the way, guys, thanks a bunch for the quick update you gave us at KC. It solved the problems. We started a few rounds of our 5th Gear tournament today, and it's going fairly well.
And Intel integrated graphics seem to handle PhysX just fine - as does Intel GMA HD cards! (I find it odd how I had a GeForce 7150M that hated PhysX, yet non-nVidia cards work beautifully...)
I think one of you said you had also run into problems with XNA 3.1, but on my laptop it doesn't seem to create any problems.
And I think I heard you were going to be at Minnesota?

gblake 06-03-2010 00:10

Re: 2010 5th Gear FRC Match Simulator
 
Sounds like we gave away too many fixes in one shot - What will we do for an encore? - We need to learn to pace ourselves ;)

We are delighted it worked well - Kudos to David Dobbs for getting us over the hump on that one.

Friday afternoon a couple of players in DC helped us pin down the source of the problem (or at least got us much closer to a diagnosis than we were before) - For a reward we gave them both a 5th Gear polo shirt - There are only 60 in all the world - They are sure to become a valuable collectible (I had better not see them show up on eBay... ;)).

Yes - Employees/volunteers form Lockheed Martin's Eagan plant are planning to run a 5th Gear exhibit are the Minnesota Regional(s).

Blake

Chris is me 07-03-2010 13:44

Re: 2010 5th Gear FRC Match Simulator
 
Any word on whether or not this will be at WPI? I just found out I'm going and would like to know how much of my free time will be spent away from my team :)

gblake 07-03-2010 17:49

Re: 2010 5th Gear FRC Match Simulator
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 932783)
Any word on whether or not this will be at WPI? I just found out I'm going and would like to know how much of my free time will be spent away from my team :)

I am unaware if the WPI Regional will include a 5th Gear set-up.

However... If 7 teams each brought one computer/monitor (already proved to run the simulator) and one Xbox Controller, and someone tossed in a LAN switch, seven Ethernet cables, and some power strips - Then, after scrounging up a couple of tables and a power outlet at the event, the answer would be a definite "Yes".

If some of you decide to do this (take the stone soup approach to putting together a set-up), then let me know so that I can send one of you a slightly different copy of the executable and a batch file to automatically restart it after each match.

Blake
PS: Double check with your hosts at WPI before doing this - Not all floor space that appears available actually is available, and not all power circuits will have extra Amps for surprise loads. One phone call or email exchange ought to be enough to pave the way.

gblake 31-03-2010 08:44

Re: 2010 5th Gear FRC Match Simulator
 
Folks - FYI - A programming challenge that can involve 5th Gear


Challenge Thread: Full Thread
Original Challenge: Original Post
My Reply: 5th Gear Post

Blake

Chris is me 31-03-2010 08:52

Re: 2010 5th Gear FRC Match Simulator
 
Is there an API or something for 5th gear robots? I would love to try some psuedo programming / AI algorithms for Overdrive in my spare time (I used big words to make me sound smart)... is this possible?

gblake 31-03-2010 09:06

Re: 2010 5th Gear FRC Match Simulator
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 946194)
Is there an API or something for 5th gear robots? I would love to try some psuedo programming / AI algorithms for Overdrive in my spare time (I used big words to make me sound smart)... is this possible?

There is an informal description of the interface between the Server and the client that needs to be polished and made more detailed before publication, and there is my Java client-side Client-Server communication code that could be updated and compiled into a set of class files that could be distributed (so that other Java code could incorporate them).

I figure I'm about 40 labor-hours away from being able to release those two items. I also have to get my taxes filed and prep for the 5th Gear exhibit at the Championships, and keep an eye on the Week 5 exhibits, and participate in a May Vex off-season event locally, and design/build some Vex bots that will be used in community College workshops this summer, and take some Vex bots to our local 4H office to show to a Virginia House of Delegates member, and ...

No - I'm not looking for pity ;) but I am explaining why I/we haven't released these two items quite yet.

However, when I saw the other thread I couldn't resist letting folks know that it is possible to release them in the near future, and that those 40 hours might rise up nearer the top of my to-do list if there is enough interest (the tax man and the Championship exhibit have to stay at the top of the list).

Blake

Rangel 19-04-2010 14:58

Re: 2010 5th Gear FRC Match Simulator
 
I just have one question. What are the controls for tank drive and is it possible to change the point of view so that you watch your robot from the alliance station? Also, is it possible to change the buttons for what they do by changing the code? Well, I guess that's actually 2 questions.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 14:58.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi