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JJD 10-01-2010 16:43

This is about as anti-gracious professionalism as you can get but....
 
Does anything stop a team from getting ahead by more than 2 penalties of points, driving 2 robots into the opposing teams goals, and hitting the E-stop?

It'd be a pretty terrible thing to do, and team 2225 does not plan on doing it. Just kinda a curiosity thing on my part.

gorrilla 10-01-2010 16:46

Re: This is about as anti-gracious professionalism as you can get but....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JJD (Post 895866)
Does anything stop a team from getting ahead by more than 2 penalties of points, driving 2 robots into the opposing teams goals, and hitting the E-stop?

It'd be a pretty terrible thing to do, and team 2225 does not plan on doing it. Just kinda a curiosity thing on my part.

I belive you would be D-Q'd if you flagrantly did this..

JJD 10-01-2010 16:50

Re: This is about as anti-gracious professionalism as you can get but....
 
Thats what I figured. Kinda surprised it's not in the rules as a red card issued offense :rolleyes:

V_Chip 10-01-2010 17:00

Re: This is about as anti-gracious professionalism as you can get but....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JJD (Post 895866)
Does anything stop a team from getting ahead by more than 2 penalties of points, driving 2 robots into the opposing teams goals, and hitting the E-stop?

It'd be a pretty terrible thing to do, and team 2225 does not plan on doing it. Just kinda a curiosity thing on my part.

One can only have ONE alliance robot in the far section at a time. Therefore it negates the possibility of blocking both goals.

Refer to G29

Joe J. 10-01-2010 17:01

Re: This is about as anti-gracious professionalism as you can get but....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JJD (Post 895866)
Does anything stop a team from getting ahead by more than 2 penalties of points, driving 2 robots into the opposing teams goals, and hitting the E-stop?

Read the italics at the end of G29 a red card will be issued if the effort to correct problem is not immediate.

DonRotolo 10-01-2010 17:07

Re: This is about as anti-gracious professionalism as you can get but....
 
And although hitting the E-Stop avoids further Penalties, a Red Card is not a Penalty.

Andrew Schreiber 10-01-2010 17:13

Re: This is about as anti-gracious professionalism as you can get but....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JJD (Post 895866)
Does anything stop a team from getting ahead by more than 2 penalties of points, driving 2 robots into the opposing teams goals, and hitting the E-stop?

It'd be a pretty terrible thing to do, and team 2225 does not plan on doing it. Just kinda a curiosity thing on my part.

Dave has the answer to that:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lavery
The rules also never explicitly say that I can't park a Boeing 747 right in the middle of the play field and use it as an obstacle for the other alliance. But after a little thought, something tells me that I probably should not do it.

Can you? Sure. Should you? Probably not.

Pausert 10-01-2010 17:45

Re: This is about as anti-gracious professionalism as you can get but....
 
Also, this strategy doesn't ensure victory. Your opponent can still get bonus points at the end from hanging.

Bongle 10-01-2010 19:05

Re: This is about as anti-gracious professionalism as you can get but....
 
Note: I assume here that the refs would give you a red card for unsportsmanship-like conduct for doing this, which I don't think is a very big assumption.

It would work well for your alliance partner who didn't do it, because their robot wouldn't be red-carded, and would still receive seeding points. The two robots that did the shutdown would lose their seeding points, thus making the match worthless for them.

In the eliminations, the red card would cause your alliance to lose the match.

So I don't think this tactic would work well.

1075master 10-01-2010 20:21

Re: This is about as anti-gracious professionalism as you can get but....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Rotolo (Post 895891)
And although hitting the E-Stop avoids further Penalties, a Red Card is not a Penalty.

the following is from section 9(the tournament)

9.3.6 Seeding Point Exceptions
During the qualification matches, TEAMS can individually receive RED CARDS. A RED CARDED TEAM will receive zero seeding points and zero coopertition bonus.

You are forfeiting your teams points when you get a red card. Once again going back to the can you and should you. Your only hurting yourself by doing something like this. I would also bet that after a few red cards you may not be playing anymore.. so is it worth it... ABSOLUTELY NOT.


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