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GaryVoshol 23-01-2010 14:20

Re: ELEVATED but not hanging?
 
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Originally Posted by Brian Ha (Post 905286)
Ok if you don't agree with me. Explain how you would stack 3 robots on top of each other?

I don't know how you would do this. But if it was done, and if the bottom one was ELEVATED, the other two would count as SUSPENDED by definition.

cooldude8181 23-01-2010 15:56

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This is a really cool idea and I would really like to see this.

i haven't read any rules that would stop this from being legal or true, so good luck to anyone who tries this!

EricH 23-01-2010 18:20

Re: ELEVATED but not hanging?
 
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Originally Posted by GaryVoshol (Post 905291)
I don't know how you would do this. But if it was done, and if the bottom one was ELEVATED, the other two would count as SUSPENDED by definition.

And if the bottom one was built with its top higher than the platform and it was sitting on the floor, and the middle one touched the tower but the top one didn't, then the middle one gets 2 points and the top one gets 3. The bottom one gets 0, as they aren't above the plane.

kc2pix 25-01-2010 15:36

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Wow! This all sounds like some circus act- you know the one where acrobats make the upside-down pyramid on one person?

Anyway, I think a ramp-bot, if designed right, would work great. For those who worry that no one would be able to climb on you, keep in mind that most robots (I assume) are built to be able to climb up the 45 degree angle of the bumps. The ramp would just go slightly higher. Unless you have a ridiculously steep angle, I think it would work.

Then again, this is theory, created from the wonderful if slightly twisted logic in my head;)

nitneylion452 30-01-2010 00:07

Re: ELEVATED but not hanging?
 
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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 905487)
And if the bottom one was built with its top higher than the platform and it was sitting on the floor, and the middle one touched the tower but the top one didn't, then the middle one gets 2 points and the top one gets 3. The bottom one gets 0, as they aren't above the plane.

I wa going to post something that would completely contradict what you are saying, but when I opened the rules to get the exact wording of the definition of Elevated I found "A ROBOT that is completely above the plane of the PLATFORM and in contact with the TOWER shall be considered ELEVATED."

So I don't see anything wrong with that proposition now. By definition, the ELEVATED robot only needs to contact the tower and be above the plane of the PLATFORM.

nitneylion452 30-01-2010 00:10

Re: ELEVATED but not hanging?
 
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Originally Posted by kc2pix (Post 906616)
Wow! This all sounds like some circus act- you know the one where acrobats make the upside-down pyramid on one person?

Anyway, I think a ramp-bot, if designed right, would work great. For those who worry that no one would be able to climb on you, keep in mind that most robots (I assume) are built to be able to climb up the 45 degree angle of the bumps. The ramp would just go slightly higher. Unless you have a ridiculously steep angle, I think it would work.

Then again, this is theory, created from the wonderful if slightly twisted logic in my head;)

You would still have to consider the extra 120 pounds of weight that is now being added to your robot. If your lifting mechanism can't lift more than 240 lbs, your ramp bot or even the possibility of a SUSPENDED robot are very low.

sami9145 30-01-2010 10:19

Re: ELEVATED but not hanging?
 
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Originally Posted by nitneylion452 (Post 909692)
You would still have to consider the extra 120 pounds of weight that is now being added to your robot. If your lifting mechanism can't lift more than 240 lbs, your ramp bot or even the possibility of a SUSPENDED robot are very low.

actually 120lb robot + 20lb bumpers + 10lb battery = 150lb robot each

so the number is 150 for one 300 for two 450 for all three robots

Brian Ha 01-02-2010 18:19

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sadly that is a heavy weight and if it way to much your robot could be crushed and well thats sadly a problem


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