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-42- 13-01-2010 23:40

The Official Metalheads Thread
 
A place to discuss the nuances of music proven to increase aggression and delinquency in minors. From thrash to jazzcore.

Post videos, songs, comments, recommend bands, whatever.

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Meshuggah - I

Lil' Lavery 14-01-2010 14:01

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Though I definitely admire the musicianship of Meshuggah (particularly Haake), I'm not a big fan. They're not bad, but there are far more interesting metal acts out there, in my opinion.

I'm well versed in most metal sub/micro-genres, save power and folk metal. If you need any recs, I'm more than willing to give them.

Recently I've been listening to a lot of 1st wave black metal, dirty blackened thrash, and blackened crust type stuff. Midnight, Infernal Stronghold, Ork Bastards, [early] Bathory, Toxic Holocaust, Pyrotoxic, [early] Celtic Frost and that kind of stuff.

-42- 14-01-2010 18:54

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I have a couple friends who are big on folk metal. I am more of a fan of progressive/technical/death. Ever listened to Blotted Science?

Lil' Lavery 15-01-2010 01:22

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Originally Posted by -42- (Post 899227)
I have a couple friends who are big on folk metal. I am more of a fan of progressive/technical/death. Ever listened to Blotted Science?

I've heard a handful of Blotted Science tracks, but they don't really strike my fancy. I'm not a particular fan of the Dream Theater school of progressive metal (aside of Symphony X, who I do enjoy), and Blotted Science calls forth too much of that sound for me. When I dip into prog metal, it tends to be with bands like Orphaned Land, Gojira, Opeth, Nevermore, Baroness, Mastodon, Blood of the Tyrant, Cynic, Burst, etc.

As for tech death, I definitely dig early Arsis, Quo Vadis, Decrepit Birth, and a few others, though my favorite school of death metal belongs to the Swedes. Entombed, Tribulation, Maim, Repugnant, Dismember, Skeletal Spectre, Bloodbath, Death Breath, and the early Gothenburg scene get me going.

-42- 16-01-2010 17:33

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What older artists do you listen to? Along the lines of Slayer, Sepultura, or Death?

Lil' Lavery 17-01-2010 02:53

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Originally Posted by -42- (Post 900577)
What older artists do you listen to? Along the lines of Slayer, Sepultura, or Death?

Slayer's first five albums are frequently in my listening habits (particularly Show No Mercy and Seasons in the Abyss). I enjoy early Sepultura as well, and I should listen to Death far more frequently than I end up listening to them.

As for other older artists, I listen to a wide range. Some of the ones similar to those three would be Exhorder, Kreator, Destruction, Sarcofago, Obituary, Celtic Frost, and Hellhammer.

machetemonkey 23-01-2010 11:27

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I really do love metal, as well as just about every type of music.

I can really get into anything. Probably my favorite extreme metal band is Behemoth, whose concert I'm going to on Monday.

I also drum in a parody-thrash-metal band called Man Parts, and we just recorded our first EP (currently in the production/mixing stage).

But really, I love just about all types of metal. I can throw on Motley Crue and immediately switch to Napalm Death (granted, straight-up Grindcore isn't technically considered metal, but it's pretty relevant).

Boxxybabee 23-01-2010 12:41

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Omg, metal is not real music. Learn what real music is. Look up dj splash and be amazed!

-42- 23-01-2010 13:02

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I would check it out, if 'DJ' was not part of the artist name. Please keep smearing of metal out of this thread.

I just bought Gojira's The Way of All Flesh, and I'm a little disappointed, the only song on there as good as the tracks from From Mars to Sirius is Toxic Garbage Island. Also finally picked up Roots (Sepultura) and I am really impressed, not as thrash oriented as the early stuff, but the down tuned guitars and tribal drums give the album a real punch. Ratamahatta makes that album.

Lil' Lavery 25-01-2010 17:42

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Not a large fan of Sepultura past Arise/Third World Posse. Roots was mildly interesting for a listen or two, but otherwise uninspiring.

The Way of All Flesh was one of my favorite albums of 2008 (along with Traced in Air, A Spell for the Death of Man, Lazarus Bird, Gods of the Earth, Krallice, and Meanderthal). Without a doubt my favorite Gojira album. Their most polished, mature, and well-rounded album to date, imo. "Vacuity" is an incredibly crushing and powerful track, and my favorite on the album.

That being said, being one of the best albums of 2008 is doesn't carry the same weight as being the best album of 2009 or several other years in the 2000s (2001, 2004, and 2007 specifically). And very few years can ever approach the glory of 1996, but that's a discussion for another time.

Willdabeast 25-01-2010 18:47

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Although I only listen to a select amount of Metal, I am partial to Job For A Cowboy, especially Entombment of a Machine. It has an amazing scream in it, Deathcore at its best in my opinion.

Embrehob 25-01-2010 19:38

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Im more of a heavy metal man myself, and i must say Lamb of God is my favorite band. I've seen them live and it was insane but ive also seen slayer, cannibal corpse(which was crazy), and a few others, but it saddens me that i can never see Pantera...

-42- 25-01-2010 21:56

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I've always viewed LoG as a mainstream 'metal' band along the lines of Slipknot or Disturbed.

I found 2008 to be a great year for metal, Meshuggah, Gojira, and High on Fire all had releases.

delsaner 25-01-2010 22:30

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A7X, Escape The Fate, Disturbed, A Skylit Drive, We Came as Romans, Attack Attack, Bless The Fall, AFI, Saosin, Alesana, Dead By April, Underoath, The Devil Wears Prada, Broadway, Framing Hanley, and probably a bunch more... <3
(some may not be metal, but these are my favs)

and on the topic of folk metal, try Eluveitie.

Chris is me 25-01-2010 23:00

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Originally Posted by delsaner (Post 906917)
Attack Attack

I refuse to classify crabcore as metal. Or music for that matter. All crabcore can just go die in a fire and no one will ever miss it.

I'm not very much of a metal person, but when I do, I listen to Dream Theater, Megadeth, Mastodon, and Metallica. Huge variety there, right. I guess if you count Coheed and Cambria...

-42- 25-01-2010 23:59

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Mastodon is a great band, even if Crack the Skye was more progressive rock than metal.

Josh Fox 26-01-2010 08:29

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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 906936)
All crabcore can just go die in a fire and no one will ever miss it.

Well that's your opinion...

As for metal, I went to see Between the Buried and Me last Saturday, and everyone who played was fantastic.

Scale the Summit is more prog than metal, but the Devin Townsend Project made me feel ashamed I wasn't more familiar with Devin Townsend, the genius that he is. Cynic was phenomenal. I actually lost a shoe in their pit, but I got my remaining shoe signed by all 4 members of the band after the show!

I may be a bit biased, seeing as BTBAM is my favorite band, but they were incredible as well.

:cool:

Lil' Lavery 27-01-2010 14:57

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Originally Posted by -42- (Post 906892)
I've always viewed LoG as a mainstream 'metal' band along the lines of Slipknot or Disturbed.

I found 2008 to be a great year for metal, Meshuggah, Gojira, and High on Fire all had releases.

Lamb of God is definitely less mainstream than Slipknot or Disturbed, though they are hardly an underground band. But, for that matter, we really haven't seen many underground bands mentioned in this thread at all. LoG really isn't any more mainstream than Dream Theater.

And I wasn't saying that 2008 was a particularly bad year for metal, but it wasn't particularly great, either. 2001, 2004, 2007, and 2009 all certainly had a higher quantity of very high quality releases. Most other years in the 2000s were on-par with 2008.

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Originally Posted by delsaner (Post 906917)
A7X, Escape The Fate, Disturbed, A Skylit Drive, We Came as Romans, Attack Attack, Bless The Fall, AFI, Saosin, Alesana, Dead By April, Underoath, The Devil Wears Prada, Broadway, Framing Hanley, and probably a bunch more... <3
(some may not be metal, but these are my favs)

Personally as an avid music listener, I wouldn't consider a single band you listed to be metal (save perhaps Disturbed). Nor is BTBAM.

There's a difference between metal-influenced (post)hardcore and metal. Many of these post-hardcore/"screamo" (albeit they're not actually screamo, either)/quasi-metalcore bands like Underoath, The Devil Wears Prada, and August Burns Red are primarily like 2000s-era post-hardcore music, with some metal elements thrown in. Strained screams, breakdowns, two-step beats, and dissonant melodies are not metal characteristics, but rather decend from hardcore punk.

This thread is sorely lacking in appreciation for black metal. Someone out there has to love Wolves in the Throne Room, Darkthrone, or Blut aus Nord. And High on Fire is as close as we've come to mentioning doom metal. Where's the love for Pentagram, Electric Wizard, and Coffins?

CraigHickman 27-01-2010 17:17

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Lamb of God is a solid one. I'm also a fan of Dimmu Borgir, and for the times when I feel like throwing on a Kilt and going on a rampage, Eluveitie is some solid stuff.

-42- 27-01-2010 18:30

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Doom/Stoner metal is amazing, bands like Sleep, Electric Wizard, Witchcraft, Kyuss and Witchfinder General are great. High on Fire introduced me to doom/stoner, and the genre has failed to dissappoint.

On another note, who here listens to Bolt Thower? While more original and brutal bands exist, they have some of the best cover artwork ever, about as over-the-top as Man O War.

Lil' Lavery 28-01-2010 15:41

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Sleep reunion tour in 2010! :D
Also, a new High on Fire album. Mr. Pike certainly will be busy.
If you like stoner doom, check out sHEAVY, Black Pyramid, Serpent Throne, Harvey Milk, Acid King, The Sword, War Pigs, Earth, and Torche. For "doomier" doom, you can always go with St. Vitus, Pentagram, Trouble, Candlemass, or Jex Thoth.

I do enjoy Bolt Thrower, but it's another band I'm guilty of not listening to as often as I should.

-42- 28-01-2010 15:47

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Candlemass is a great band, even if the the vocals are over-the-top.

I wonder if Pike will put his shirt back on for the Sleep tour :rolleyes:

machetemonkey 30-01-2010 12:39

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Behemoth cancelled due to being stuck in North Dakota. Stupid Snow.

Anyways, gonna go see Slayer/Megadeth/Testament in a week or so. Should be an awesome show.

I saw High on Fire play with Converge, Mastodon, and Dethklok back this fall. That was an awesome show. I definitely need to listen to more High on Fire.

To whoever mentioned Scale the Summit: Yes, they're more progressive than metal. I saw them with Dream Theater back in August, and they were incredibly impressive (all bands there were. Dweezil Zappa was by far the greatest performance there, even though I came for Dream Theater).


Also, if anybody wants to extend doom into drone, I'm currently writing a music paper involving the band Sunn 0))). If you have the patience, they really are fantastic to listen to.

Although maybe not technically metal, does anybody listen to straight up grindcore? Napalm Death, Pig Destroyer, etc?

-42- 30-01-2010 12:59

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Sunn 0))) is good, but I extend my atmosphere out to the likes of Isis, Cult of Luna, Rosetta and Nuerosis.

Listening to more High on Fire is always a good idea.

machetemonkey 30-01-2010 13:18

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Originally Posted by -42- (Post 909903)
Sunn 0))) is good, but I extend my atmosphere out to the likes of Isis, Cult of Luna, Rosetta and Nuerosis.

Listening to more High on Fire is always a good idea.

I always thought Sunn 0))) was decent, but a little hard to listen to. However, if you haven't listened to their newest album (Monoliths and Dimensions) I seriously suggest it. It's not as absolutely doom-y as their past stuff, but it has so much more in terms of layering and interesting instrumental pieces (while still maintaining the drone-style).


On a more classic-rock-proto-metal note, I maintain that the intro riff to Godzilla by Blue Oyster cult is one of the heaviest riffs ever. And that takes into account all the extreme metal I listen to.

-42- 30-01-2010 13:27

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If you want riffage, listen to the Sword, that's all they do, and they do it well.

High on Fire, having mentioned them, do some great riffing.

Electric Wizard still dominates the riff department with Dopethrone though.

machetemonkey 30-01-2010 13:47

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Originally Posted by -42- (Post 909917)
If you want riffage, listen to the Sword, that's all they do, and they do it well.

High on Fire, having mentioned them, do some great riffing.

Electric Wizard still dominates the riff department with Dopethrone though.

Yeah, I've listened to the Sword. They aren't my favorite, but I certainly respect what they do. High on Fire is fantastic when it comes to sludgey riffs. My favorite Band is Queens of the Stone Age, and while not metal, they certainly do have some good guitar parts. I haven't listened to Electric Wizard, although I have heard the name.

In general I'm a big fan of classic metal riffs. Listen to the Bass intro of Space Truckin' by Deep Purple, or Sweet Leaf by Black Sabbath.

As I said, I love pretty much all types of metal, from that which can barely be called more than hard rock to this (http://www.myspace.com/terrorhorse).

Chris is me 30-01-2010 14:10

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Originally Posted by machetemonkey (Post 909876)
Anyways, gonna go see Slayer/Megadeth/Testament in a week or so. Should be an awesome show.

I was pretty certain most Slayer concerts in the next few weeks were cancelled due to a band member needing back surgery.

machetemonkey 30-01-2010 14:30

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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 909945)
I was pretty certain most Slayer concerts in the next few weeks were cancelled due to a band member needing back surgery.

Oh that sucks. Two concerts in two weeks cancelled? I was so excited.

Lil' Lavery 30-01-2010 20:51

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I lost major interest in the Behemoth tour when Shining dropped off due to visa complications. Lightning Swords of Death replaced them, and while I like LSoD a lot, they aren't nearly as awesome as Shining. I ended up skipping it to see Oiltanker and Infernal Stronghold instead.

machetemonkey 31-01-2010 14:48

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Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 910225)
I lost major interest in the Behemoth tour when Shining dropped off due to visa complications. Lightning Swords of Death replaced them, and while I like LSoD a lot, they aren't nearly as awesome as Shining. I ended up skipping it to see Oiltanker and Infernal Stronghold instead.

I'm not really aware of the supporting bands much, but Behemoth is one of my favorite bands at the moment, so I lost interest when I heard I couldn't see them.

Lil' Lavery 01-02-2010 10:40

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Originally Posted by machetemonkey (Post 910668)
I'm not really aware of the supporting bands much, but Behemoth is one of my favorite bands at the moment, so I lost interest when I heard I couldn't see them.

Definitely check out both Shining (non-minimalist DSBM) and Lightning Swords of Death (raw blackthrash). Septicflesh is atmospheric and orchestral death metal. A lot of people really like them, I'm not huge on them, but they're okay. Woe opened for Behemoth on the Philly stop, and I would definitely suggest listening to Woe as well.

Most Behemoth bores me to tears, especially recently. I'm not usually a fan of black and blackened metal when it's highly polished. Blackened death is usually not my thing (with the exception of a few bands like Unanimated and Goatwhore), and Behemoth is the opposite of how I like mine.

Unrelated, you guys should tune in to my radio show tonight. Seeing as none of you seem to be within normal listening range, you can do it over the internet at WKDU.org. I'm normally on 7-9PM (Eastern) on Mondays, but I'm also covering the show after mine so I'll be going all the way until 11PM tonight. The DJ before me also plays metal, so you might as well tune in at 5PM for 6 hours of blistering, audible hate.

Chris is me 01-02-2010 13:38

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Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 911108)
Unrelated, you guys should tune in to my radio show tonight. Seeing as none of you seem to be within normal listening range, you can do it over the internet at WKDU.org. I'm normally on 7-9PM (Eastern) on Mondays, but I'm also covering the show after mine so I'll be going all the way until 11PM tonight. The DJ before me also plays metal, so you might as well tune in at 5PM for 6 hours of blistering, audible hate.

Aww, I wish there was an "official indie pop / rock fans thread" so I could plug my radio show :( I'm doing a variety show that includes a decent amount of metal later this semester though, so "stay tuned"!

I passed up a Between the Buried and Me concert the other day and now regret it. While not very metal, there's a Coheed and Cambria concert on campus in a month I'm extremely excited for, which I don't plan on missing.

Lil' Lavery 01-02-2010 14:42

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I skipped the BTBAM/Cynic/Devin Townsend/Scale the Summit show last night in Philly. And by skipped, I mean, forgot about. I'm not terribly upset because BTBAM is awful, Devin is a much better producer than he is a musician, and I'm entirely indifferent about Scale the Summit. Would really have liked to see Cynic, though. They need to stop touring with awful bands (Dragonforce, BTBAM, etc.).

Chris is me 01-02-2010 15:15

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Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 911223)
I skipped the BTBAM/Cynic/Devin Townsend/Scale the Summit show last night in Philly. And by skipped, I mean, forgot about. I'm not terribly upset because BTBAM is awful, Devin is a much better producer than he is a musician, and I'm entirely indifferent about Scale the Summit. Would really have liked to see Cynic, though. They need to stop touring with awful bands (Dragonforce, BTBAM, etc.).

I was disappointed less because "wow, I'm a big BTBAM fan" and more because my friends would not stop talking about how totally awesome it was, and I generally enjoy some of the same metal they do.

Josh Fox 01-02-2010 15:33

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Cynic's performance was incredible.

For lack of a better term, the vibes they gave off were mesmerizing, and left me staring in awe several times throughout their set.

machetemonkey 01-02-2010 17:02

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Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 911108)
Most Behemoth bores me to tears, especially recently. I'm not usually a fan of black and blackened metal when it's highly polished. Blackened death is usually not my thing (with the exception of a few bands like Unanimated and Goatwhore), and Behemoth is the opposite of how I like mine.

I'll check out some of these bands. See, I'm the opposite on Behemoth. I love Blackened Death, ESPECIALLY when it's polished. To me, the level of polish makes it easier to appreciate all of the musicianship as opposed to when it's just unrefined noise (EDIT: I don't mean to imply that it's "just noise," as it's obviously the same music I merely meant that I listen for musicality, and that's easier to notice when the production is cleaner). I mean, I appreciate all these bands, but I prefer the ones that put a lot of effort into decent production.

Lil' Lavery 01-02-2010 21:53

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Originally Posted by machetemonkey (Post 911337)
I'll check out some of these bands. See, I'm the opposite on Behemoth. I love Blackened Death, ESPECIALLY when it's polished. To me, the level of polish makes it easier to appreciate all of the musicianship as opposed to when it's just unrefined noise (EDIT: I don't mean to imply that it's "just noise," as it's obviously the same music I merely meant that I listen for musicality, and that's easier to notice when the production is cleaner). I mean, I appreciate all these bands, but I prefer the ones that put a lot of effort into decent production.

It's not just a question of effort, though. The production has to fit the style of music. Not all styles of metal sound better when they have higher production values, crisper tones, and have melodies that jump out of the mix.
Take for instance Infernal Stronghold. Their first LP was recorded in a rather nice studio, and their second was recorded with only 11 mics being played "live." Their second sounds far better, as it fits their "raw" style of blackened crust/thrash. I know the guy who mixed/mastered their second album, and it's not that he just works better with lower production values. He has a really clean, high-end production on his (formerly solo) project, Woe, and that sounds great because it fits the style of black metal he plays in Woe.

I tend not to like the really polished styles of black and blackened metal (with some exceptions such as Woe, Shining (Swe), Vreid, etc.). I usually gravitate towards the raw, dirty, and ugly varieties (like Darkthrone, Iskra, Infernal Stronghold, Ork Bastards, etc.).

-42- 01-02-2010 22:09

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Production values and the use thereof are huge, the first three Metallica albums were the grittiest, and by far the best, Death Magnetic, on the other hand, was crisp and clean and suckish.

I tend to gravitate towards the grittier, more distorted end, esspecially with sludge, drone, and doom metal, though certain bands like Meshuggah, who play highly technical and nuanced music, sound better with crisper sound. A good compromise is Keelhaul, a technical sludge band.

Chris is me 01-02-2010 22:11

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Originally Posted by -42- (Post 911551)
Production values and the use thereof are huge, the first three Metallica albums were the grittiest, and by far the best, Death Magnetic, on the other hand, was crisp and clean and suckish.

Not end all though. St. Anger's kind of the antithesis to that.

-42- 01-02-2010 22:23

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Saint Anger had that tinny drum, and the vocals sucked. It actually had no distortion and was pretty clean, if memory serves. Thrash metal should not be clean.

Distorted is Electric Wizard.

Kevin Kolodziej 02-02-2010 00:11

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This thread needs more Swedish love, as in Soilwork, In Flames, Children of Bodom, Amon Amarth, Dark Tranquility, Opeth, Arch Enemy, and especially Scar Symmetry. I'm sad that Scary Symmetry has two new vocalists (to replace one awesome one), but the new sound stands on its own.

If you want to go old school, you can't go wrong with Megadeth and Anthrax. I never really did get into Slayer. Metallica is Metallica...take 'em or leave 'em. Its just nice to have them all still around (and in top form in Megadeth's case).

Do any of you fellow metalheads play? Any singers out there? My band needs a vocalist..though preferably the power metal style rather than death.

Josh Fox 02-02-2010 08:47

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Opeth gets a lot of love from me!:D

They were truly one of the first "extreme" metal bands I ever got into.

The majority of the music I listen to is the kind that nears or straddles the border between the "-core" genres and true metal. Examples in my opinion are The Black Dahlia Murder, Between the Buried and Me, and The Faceless.

Chris is me 02-02-2010 09:11

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Originally Posted by Kevin Kolodziej (Post 911626)
Do any of you fellow metalheads play? Any singers out there? My band needs a vocalist..though preferably the power metal style rather than death.

One of my friends has jokingly suggested I'd make a good power metal singer. I think I'm in the wrong part of the country though.

I enjoy Megadeth, but wish they had a different lead. :(

Lil' Lavery 02-02-2010 13:41

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Originally Posted by [QUOTE=Kevin Kolodziej (Post 911626)
This thread needs more Swedish love, as in Soilwork, In Flames, Children of Bodom, Amon Amarth, Dark Tranquility, Opeth, Arch Enemy, and especially Scar Symmetry. I'm sad that Scary Symmetry has two new vocalists (to replace one awesome one), but the new sound stands on its own.

If you want to go old school, you can't go wrong with Megadeth and Anthrax. I never really did get into Slayer. Metallica is Metallica...take 'em or leave 'em. Its just nice to have them all still around (and in top form in Megadeth's case).

That's the wrong type of Swedish love. :(
In Flames' first four albums are incredible, but everything after that is sucky. Dark Tranquillity and Amon Amarth are okay, but nothing special. Arch Enemy's stuff with Johan is pretty good, and their Angela material is okay if you accept it for what it is (cheesy anthem metal that hasn't changed in nearly 10 years). Can't stand Soilwork or Scar Symmetry. Children of Bodom are from Finland, not Sweden.

Now if you want good Swedish melodic death metal, listen to Unanimated, Gates of Ishtar, At the Gates (particularly their early material), Eucharist, Ceremonial Oath, The Haunted's second album (The Haunted Made Me Do It), Dissection (typically lumped in with black metal, but they're one of the important bands in the melodeath movement, especially early on), and Centinex.
Otherwise, there's tons of traditional Swedish death metal that's awesome. Repugnant, Tribulation, Dismember, Entombed, Death Breath, Maim, Skeletal Spectre, Bloodbath, Unleashed, and The Crown. And the proggier acts like Edge of Sanity and Opeth.

I've never been a fan of Anthrax, though I do like S.O.D.
Megadeth has a couple really good albums (namely Peace Sells), but overall I find them somewhat overrated. Metallica's first two albums are incredible, especially Kill 'Em All, but tailed off after that (and really hit bottom in the 90s and 2000s). Slayer is the most consistent of the "big four," but even they haven't done anything particularly good since Seasons in the Abyss.
In terms of 80s thrash, Kreator reigns supreme. Slayer, Destruction, Metallica, D.R.I., and Coroner also put out terrific albums, but Kreator delivered consistent greatness through the decade. Pleasure to Kill is one of my favorite thrash albums and Extreme Aggressions, Coma of Souls, and Terrible Certainty aren't far behind.
In terms of the "thrash revival" during the 2000s, there are some bands definitely worth checking out (and tons and tons of mediocre ones to go along with them). Vektor, Municipal Waste, Skeletonwitch, Rumpelstiltskin Grinder, Vulcan, SSS, Evile, Toxic Holocaust, Pyrotoxic, Children, Gama Bomb, Lich King, and National Suicide are all definitely worth listening to.

LWakefield 02-02-2010 16:12

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Rammstein, Metallica, A7X, and Bullet for my Valentine.

-42- 02-02-2010 20:05

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A7X and Bullet for My Valentine are not metal. The first is hard rock and the second is emo.

Start with Slayer, work your way up.

Speaking of Slayer, I actually thought that God Hates Us All was a good album.

RaidJTC 02-02-2010 21:06

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Like St. Anger, God Hates Us All is only enjoyable to listen to if your really angry with the world. XD

As far as metal bands I like:

Black Dahlia Murder- Saw them live. They are amazing. Great Drumming. Bad vocalist IMO but whatever.
Lamb of God- Saw them live as well. Best Metal Concert I've ever seen.
Children of Bodom- Do I have to defend CoB? They are amazing.
All That Remains-I love their style. Very Lamb of God-ish in guitar riffs and very catchy.
Amon Amarth- Again, a legendary metal band. No explanation needed.
I'd say Avenged Sevenfold is metal. Even though they are more mainstream, like disturbed, I'd still classify them as metal. I can see your argument though.
God Forbid- Their songs are hit or miss. I love War of Attrition and Empire of the Gun but others are "meh..."
Kalmah- Very Children of Bodom-ish. If you like CoB, you'll probably like Kalmah.
Pantera- Duh. If you like metal, you have the love dimeback.
Slipknot- Though mainstream, I loved their new CD. Joey is still an amazing drummer.
And lastly (and probably most debatable to be considered metal but my absolute favorite band) Dream Theater: I can totally see the argument that "They aren't metal but progressive rock." However, certain songs are VERY metal in my opinion. A Nightmare to Remember and This Dying Soul are examples. Dream Theater is without a doubt the most talented band ever (Minus their singer XD.) Petrucci, Myung, and Portnoy extremely talented and them staying together in the same band for 20 years is really great. If you care about Music Theory and song writing, I highly suggest you listen to Dream Theater.

Lil' Lavery 02-02-2010 23:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by -42- (Post 912124)
A7X and Bullet for My Valentine are not metal. The first is hard rock and the second is emo.

No!

I may be a metalhead, but I'll certainly defend the dignity of emo bands from being lumped in with BFMV. BMFV is (melodic) metalcore (albeit terrible metalcore, it's still metalcore). They are NOT emotive hardcore, emo, screamo, skramz, emo-violence, or anything mildly related to that. READ THIS to understand what emo music really is and where it comes from. 99% of bands that are labeled as "emo" really are just some form of pop-punk, pop-rock, or post-hardcore.

As a side note, there are a number of screamo and emo-violence bands that I enjoy. Majority Rule, Orchid, Funeral Diner, Pg. 99, and Saetia are chief among them. Majority Rule's Interviews with David Frost is absolutely incredible.


Quote:

Originally Posted by RaidJTC (Post 912167)
Pantera- Duh. If you like metal, you have the love dimeback.

I disagree. Also, you need to rethink how you use the word "legendary."

Chris is me 02-02-2010 23:40

Re: The Official Metalheads Thread
 
I would easily call Dream Theater metal long before I'd call Slipknot metal. I'm somewhat of a Dream Theater fan myself, in that I've heard a little and enjoy it.

machetemonkey 04-02-2010 17:36

Re: The Official Metalheads Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 911536)
It's not just a question of effort, though. The production has to fit the style of music. Not all styles of metal sound better when they have higher production values, crisper tones, and have melodies that jump out of the mix.
Take for instance Infernal Stronghold. Their first LP was recorded in a rather nice studio, and their second was recorded with only 11 mics being played "live." Their second sounds far better, as it fits their "raw" style of blackened crust/thrash. I know the guy who mixed/mastered their second album, and it's not that he just works better with lower production values. He has a really clean, high-end production on his (formerly solo) project, Woe, and that sounds great because it fits the style of black metal he plays in Woe.

I tend not to like the really polished styles of black and blackened metal (with some exceptions such as Woe, Shining (Swe), Vreid, etc.). I usually gravitate towards the raw, dirty, and ugly varieties (like Darkthrone, Iskra, Infernal Stronghold, Ork Bastards, etc.).

I never meant to imply that the low production values were a lack of effort. I understand fully that the raw sound is a personal choice. I just guess we have different opinions, with you generally preferring that sound and me preferring the more refined sound for this genre of music.

I don't want to sound like I'm putting down any form of music, I love it all. Literally. I'm sure you could tell me just about any genre and I could either name something I like or find something I like with a little searching.

Also, as for the debate over what is metal: Based on the usual defining characterists, slipknot is far more metal than dream theater. This doesn't mean that Slipknot is better than dream theater, not at all. Metal is not a perfect genre, there are certainly bad examples of metal. Metal fans, imo, try far too hard to defend their favorite genre, by trying to prove that any bad metal bands "aren't metal." Bad Art is still art. Bad cars are still cars. Bad movies are still movies. Bad metal is still metal, whether you like it or not.

Remember what metal started as: Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, etc. Slipknot in those days would be considered on the same level as something like goregrind today. The standards of what is "heavy" may have increased in time, but the definition of metal hasn't.


Just my two cents on the matter.

Kage 07-02-2010 00:00

Re: The Official Metalheads Thread
 
Me and the two programmers on my team are really into "viking metal"...that is the best explanation we could give it...

bands like Blind Guardian, and Crown the Lost...

But we listen to pretty much anything that has a guitar, and some bass and a drum kit...
Another thing I particularly like is "hardcore punk"...like the misfits, and such

minus a few exceptions here and there, and basically the whole "pop/popular culture" kind of stuff : P

I love Crown the Lost...anyone else heard of them?

Kage 07-02-2010 00:02

Re: The Official Metalheads Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 912295)
I would easily call Dream Theater metal long before I'd call Slipknot metal. I'm somewhat of a Dream Theater fan myself, in that I've heard a little and enjoy it.

Black clouds and silver linings is *** amazing... enough said

Lil' Lavery 19-02-2010 14:07

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What's everyone's favorite album of 2010 so far? I'm partial to Black Trinity's (Greece) In This Infernal Night of Black Thrashing Hell and Petrychor's demo, Dryad. The new Ihsahn album, After, and Shining's (Norway) Blackjazz are also solid. Haven't had a chance to listen to the new Orphaned Land, yet. Arsis' latest (Starve for the Devil) was terrible, though.

Josh Fox 19-02-2010 15:09

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Can't say I've really listened to anything from 2010 yet, I'm never on top of when artists are releasing new material.

Anxiously awaiting the new Cynic EP though.

Kage 19-02-2010 15:41

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My favorite album as of the past few years is The Bedlam in Goliath by The Mars Volta (2008)... Wich also happens to be my favorite band of ALL TIME
If you have never heard of them, go look them up.
I recomend the songs "Goliath", or "Metatron" for first time listeners...

Chris is me 19-02-2010 15:51

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Considering I've listened to 1 metal album in 2010, Priestess

Lil' Lavery 19-02-2010 15:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kage (Post 924008)
My favorite album as of the past few years is The Bedlam in Goliath by The Mars Volta (2008)... Wich also happens to be my favorite band of ALL TIME
If you have never heard of them, go look them up.
I recomend the songs "Goliath", or "Metatron" for first time listeners...

Wouldn't really consider The Mars Volta to be metal, though I do enjoy them (particularly De-loused in the Comatorium and Frances the Mute). The Bedlam in Goliath was okay, but didn't really hit me the same way as their first two LPs did. Fun (albeit expensive) live band, though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 924015)
Considering I've listened to 1 metal album in 2010, Priestess

I've considered them as a stoner rock band rather than metal, but once again, a band I enjoy. Haven't had a chance to listen to their new one, but I do have a copy waiting for me to listen to.

-42- 19-02-2010 22:47

Re: The Official Metalheads Thread
 
No 2010 music as of yet, I'm still somewhat new to the metal scene, so I've been working my way backwards as opposed to forwards. Highly anticipating Snakes for the Divine though.

Lil' Lavery 28-02-2010 23:44

Re: The Official Metalheads Thread
 
Very much enjoying the new albums from Burzum and High on Fire. Mixed feelings about the new Darkthrone album, and I usually enjoy crusty Darkthrone. Orphaned Land's was pretty good as well, but I need to give it another listen or two.

The Farmer 06-03-2010 22:07

Re: The Official Metalheads Thread
 
I recently revisited some of the older bands, and I enjoyed it a lot. Mostly classic stuff like Black Sabbath and Iron Maiden. This classic metal binge was brought upon by listening to Dio, which then spread out into Judas Priest. Suffice to say, I haven't listened to anything recent until just a short while ago, which was Sabaton, which I'm actually enjoying quite a bit at the moment.

Thomas_S 07-03-2010 01:15

Re: The Official Metalheads Thread
 
WHITECHAPEL. THE ACACIA STRAIN. THY ART IS MURDER. LAMB OF GOD. nuff said

Hmmmingbird 24-03-2010 16:51

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I'm not sure I like all the new screamy stuff, but definitely love classic stuff (even if it's still going, IT'S CLASSIC) like Maiden, Sabbath, Metallica, etc. I have to say, Britain is short on good classic metal bands. Dx

Lil' Lavery 25-03-2010 01:26

Re: The Official Metalheads Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hmmmingbird (Post 942665)
I have to say, Britain is short on good classic metal bands. Dx

Are you kidding me?
Black Sabbath
Iron Maiden
Motorhead
Judas Priest
Angel Witch
Blitzkrieg
Venom
Witchfinder General
Saxon
Diamond Head
Samson
Tank
And oh so so so many other NWOBHM bands.

Britain is loaded with "classic" heavy metal.

Lil' Lavery 04-04-2010 14:13

Re: The Official Metalheads Thread
 
If you're a fan of Evile, or thrash metal in general, check out my interview with Matt Drake (of Evile) tomorrow on WKDU at 5PM (Eastern). Hear his thoughts about "retro thrash," Evile's first US tour, touring with thrash legends like Megadeth, Kreator, Overkill, and Exodus, and more.

Lil' Lavery 12-05-2010 19:34

Re: The Official Metalheads Thread
 
Just over two weeks until Maryland DeathFest! Anyone else going?

Josh Fox 13-05-2010 12:18

Re: The Official Metalheads Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 961889)
Just over two weeks until Maryland DeathFest! Anyone else going?

Unfortunately since I do not live nearby I won't be. :p

Who's playing?

Lil' Lavery 13-05-2010 22:43

Re: The Official Metalheads Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh Fox (Post 961967)
Unfortunately since I do not live nearby I won't be. :p

Who's playing?

Everyone who matters.
http://www.marylanddeathfest.com/

I'm particularly excited about Gorguts, Eyehategod, Portal, Magrudergrind, DRI, Pentagram, Converge, Krallice, Repulsion, Autopsy, DRI, N2002, Coffins, Jucifer, Howl, and Entombed. Not to mention Ex Dementia, Nekromantheon, Swarm of the Lotus, and PLF at the pre-fest.

And people come from all over the world for MDF, no excuses! ;)

Kevin Kolodziej 13-05-2010 23:35

Re: The Official Metalheads Thread
 
Recently discovered British band Sylosis. Loving the old school thrash sound. Anyone else into these guys?

Josh Fox 14-05-2010 12:33

Re: The Official Metalheads Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 962040)
Everyone who matters.
http://www.marylanddeathfest.com/

I'm particularly excited about Gorguts, Eyehategod, Portal, Magrudergrind, DRI, Pentagram, Converge, Krallice, Repulsion, Autopsy, DRI, N2002, Coffins, Jucifer, Howl, and Entombed. Not to mention Ex Dementia, Nekromantheon, Swarm of the Lotus, and PLF at the pre-fest.

And people come from all over the world for MDF, no excuses! ;)

Unfortunately I've only heard of a handful of those bands, any favorites you'd recommend?

And I long for the day when I'm able to travel to big festivals... Maybe after high school's over in another few weeks... And I find a steady stream of disposable income :yikes:

Lil' Lavery 14-05-2010 15:51

Re: The Official Metalheads Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh Fox (Post 962130)
Unfortunately I've only heard of a handful of those bands, any favorites you'd recommend?

Depends on what your tastes are. The bands I'm excited about specifically are all pretty great, but plenty of other bands are good, as well.

If you're into thrash, check out D.R.I. and Deceased...
If you're into traditional doom metal, check out Pentagram.
If you dig Grindcore, check out Repulsion, Magrudergrind, and PLF.
If you like dissonant metalcore, go with Converge and Trap Them.
If you want oldschool Swedish death metal, Entombed is legendary, but I actually like Nirvana2002 more.
If you're into death/doom, check out Coffins and Autopsy.
If you like sludge, try out some Eyehategod, Swarm of the Lotus, and Howl.
If you just want something dark and twisted, listen to Portal and Gorguts.
If you want something punkier, try out Capatalist Casualties, Wolfbrigade, and early D.R.I.
If you want something with a middle eastern tinge, give Melechesh a shot.
If you want some unique black metal, listen to Krallice.

Josh Fox 14-05-2010 17:06

Re: The Official Metalheads Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 962168)
If you're into thrash, check out D.R.I. and Deceased...
If you're into traditional doom metal, check out Pentagram.
If you dig Grindcore, check out Repulsion, Magrudergrind, and PLF.
If you like dissonant metalcore, go with Converge and Trap Them.
If you want oldschool Swedish death metal, Entombed is legendary, but I actually like Nirvana2002 more.
If you're into death/doom, check out Coffins and Autopsy.
If you like sludge, try out some Eyehategod, Swarm of the Lotus, and Howl.
If you just want something dark and twisted, listen to Portal and Gorguts.
If you want something punkier, try out Capatalist Casualties, Wolfbrigade, and early D.R.I.
If you want something with a middle eastern tinge, give Melechesh a shot.
If you want some unique black metal, listen to Krallice.

Thanks a lot, I'll have to check some out.

I've crossed over to more traditional metal from the hardcore/metalcore genres, I'm still mostly a -core listener but at the same time I mostly enjoy bands of the more progressive variety like Opeth, Devin Townsend, and Cynic, but I'm always open for suggestions.

Lil' Lavery 16-05-2010 18:26

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The world is going to miss you, Dio. :(

Probably going to do 2 hours of Elf/Rainbow/Sabbath/Dio tomorrow on my show in his memory.

KeatonM 18-09-2010 19:49

Re: The Official Metalheads Thread
 
Some people on my team got me into metal and metal-like stuff (*Cough Josh Fox and Patrick Riggs cough*) last season, and I've been listning to this band called Cloudkicker, primarily because I'm not a big fan of metal vocals. (No, they don't have a singer, as far as I can tell)

Here's the URL if you guys want it... http://cloudkicker.bandcamp.com/
They have 4 albums, and they're all pretty good. I'm liking Avalanche (from The Discovery) a lot.


EDIT: Oops, I bumped this thread from May... Sorry about that.

Lil' Lavery 22-09-2010 16:33

Re: The Official Metalheads Thread
 
As, pretty much, the only one who posts in this thread, I don't object to it being necroed.

As for instrumental metal, I know I listen to a handful of bands that fall into that realm. But I can't really think of any true metal ones off of the top of my head, only bands that border on metal.

Russian Circles is an instrumental post-rock/post-metal band.
Judgement Day is an avant-garde "cello metal" (not like Apoctalyptica) band.
Earthless is an instrumental psychedelic rock band with hints of stoner metal.

Josh Fox 22-09-2010 21:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KeatonM (Post 974554)
Some people on my team got me into metal and metal-like stuff...

You're welcome :p

If you haven't already, download the newest Cloudkicker album. It came out last week. It's definitely less groove oriented, but it's still great.

Also, neither of them are really metal, but check out Scale the Summit and Animals as Leaders for cool instrumental stuff. STS is more melodic and catchy, whereas AAL are more technical. Both good prog-type bands though.

Lil' Lavery 12-01-2011 11:56

Re: The Official Metalheads Thread
 
My Top 20 albums for 2010:
1. Black Breath – Heavy Breathing
2. Kvelertak – Kvelertak
3. Dψdsengel – Mirium Occultum
4. Christian Mistress – Agony and Opium
5. Bastard Priest – Under the Hammer of Destruction
6. Avsky – Scorn
7. Agalloch – Marrow of the Spirit
8. Acid Witch – Stoned
9. Salome – Terminal
10. Woe – Quietly, Undramatically
11. Thou – Summit
12. Grave Miasma – Realm of Evoked Doom
13. Deathspell Omega – Paracletus
14. Electric Wizard – Black Masses
15. Alcest – Escailles De Lune
16. Throats – Throats
17. High on Fire – Snakes for the Divine
18. Sadgiqacea - Submerged in Manichea
19. Coffinworm – When All Became None
20. Negura Bunget – Virstele Pamintuluis

Honorable mentions to:
Withered – Dualitas
Bastard Sapling – A Sepulcher to Swallow the Sea
Slough Feg – Animal Spirits
Kerasphorus – Cloven Hooves at the Holocaust Dawn
Rotten Sound – Napalm
Terzij de Horde – A Rage of Rapture Against the Dying of Light
Satan's Satyrs - Demo
Buzrum - Belus
Ludicra - The Tenant


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