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falconmaster 14-01-2010 12:30

Video of Kicker Prototypes
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLH-XqNyQ-0

We would love any feedback. We want all pros and cons of both systems. Thanks

MrForbes 14-01-2010 12:44

Re: Video of Kicker Prototypes
 
Need to do some rough calculations of how long it takes to refill the air tank for the pneumatic one, and also how long it would take a motor to pull back the spring (if you use that technique) for the spring version.

Auto is only 15 seconds...you're gonna kick 3 balls upfield in that time, after you find each one...right? :)

Thanks for posting the link to the video Fredi

falconmaster 14-01-2010 12:48

Re: Video of Kicker Prototypes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by squirrel (Post 898989)
Need to do some rough calculations of how long it takes to refill the air tank for the pneumatic one, and also how long it would take a motor to pull back the spring (if you use that technique) for the spring version.

Auto is only 15 seconds...you're gonna kick 3 balls upfield in that time, after you find each one...right? :)

Thanks for posting the link to the video Fredi

Thats the plan!

When are you guys going to have any vids up?

EricLeifermann 14-01-2010 12:50

Re: Video of Kicker Prototypes
 
Awesome video!

I always try and get my team to prototype more before we decide what we want to do, but it doesn't always happen... I'll make sure we watch this video at our meeting tonight. Hopefully they'll finally realize how important prototyping is.

Jared Russell 14-01-2010 12:54

Re: Video of Kicker Prototypes
 
Thank you for posting this.

Chris is me 14-01-2010 13:02

Re: Video of Kicker Prototypes
 
Thanks for posting this. I'll be sure my team sees this. Could be the most influential video of 2010 if you keep this up :)

Do the prototypes follow the 2 inch extension rule as built?

falconmaster 14-01-2010 13:12

Re: Video of Kicker Prototypes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 899002)
Thanks for posting this. I'll be sure my team sees this. Could be the most influential video of 2010 if you keep this up :)

Do the prototypes follow the 2 inch extension rule as built?

yes

IndySam 14-01-2010 13:13

Re: Video of Kicker Prototypes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 899002)
Thanks for posting this. I'll be sure my team sees this. Could be the most influential video of 2010 if you keep this up :)

Do the prototypes follow the 2 inch extension rule as built?

2 inch extension rule?

MrForbes 14-01-2010 13:14

Re: Video of Kicker Prototypes
 
Perhaps the bumper perimeter rule?

IndySam 14-01-2010 13:17

Re: Video of Kicker Prototypes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by squirrel (Post 899014)
Perhaps the bumper perimeter rule?

Exactly. I didn't know if there was a separate rule.

Chuck Glick 14-01-2010 13:20

Re: Video of Kicker Prototypes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IndySam (Post 899013)
2 inch extension rule?

I think Chris means the no extension outside the bumper zone rule, but bumpers are thicker than 2" so I am unsure.

Chris, could you elaborate or post the rule that applies please? I don't remember reading a "2 inch" rule in the manual.

EricLeifermann 14-01-2010 13:23

Re: Video of Kicker Prototypes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck Glick (Post 899021)
I think Chris means the no extension outside the bumper zone rule, but bumpers are thicker than 2" so I am unsure.

Chris, could you elaborate or post the rule that applies please? I don't remember reading a "2 inch" rule in the manual.

You can extend outside the frame perimeter below the bumper zone up to the bumper perimeter for up to 2 seconds then you must come back in the frame perimeter for 2 seconds before extending out again.

<G30> ROBOT Volume – During a MATCH, no part of the ROBOT shall extend outside the vertical projection of the FRAME PERIMETER, except as follows:
a. BALL Interaction Volume – Solely for the purposes of interacting with a BALL, MECHANISMS that are below the BUMPER ZONE may extend up to the BUMPER PERIMETER, for a period not exceeding two seconds. After returning inside the FRAMER PERIMETER, such MECHANISMS are not permitted to re-extend beyond the FRAME PERIMETER for at least two seconds.

Chris is me 14-01-2010 13:27

Re: Video of Kicker Prototypes
 
Sorry guys, I mixed up my inches and seconds.

ErikEdhlund 14-01-2010 13:27

Re: Video of Kicker Prototypes
 
My one say on design number one is that it looks like you had a hard time with one bump and that it looked like some of the balls didn't go over. But design two looks like if adjusted correctly, would be able to score from any of the zones.

IndySam 14-01-2010 13:28

Re: Video of Kicker Prototypes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricLeifermann (Post 899023)
You can extend outside the frame perimeter below the bumper zone up to 2 inches for up to 2 seconds then you must come back in the frame perimeter for 2 seconds before extending out again.

<G30> ROBOT Volume – During a MATCH, no part of the ROBOT shall extend outside the vertical projection of the FRAME PERIMETER, except as follows:
a. BALL Interaction Volume – Solely for the purposes of interacting with a BALL, MECHANISMS that are below the BUMPER ZONE may extend up to the BUMPER PERIMETER, for a period not exceeding two seconds. After returning inside the FRAMER PERIMETER, such MECHANISMS are not permitted to re-extend beyond the FRAME PERIMETER for at least two seconds.

See this is exactly what I am talking about. The bumpers are 3.25 inches not 2. It references 2 seconds not 2 inches.

We need to be very careful when we post things that a rookie or casual poster might see and think is a real rule.


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