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xtenext 19-01-2010 22:16

Using a body part for a kicker?
 
Is it somehow against the rules to use a severed human leg, stimulated by electricity to kick the ball in this years game? I havnt found any rules in the bible about this, and i already have my leg im going to use. Thanks in advance!

ATannahill 19-01-2010 22:22

Re: Using a body part for a kicker?
 
No. That would not be a COTS item. That doesn't touch on the danger of having rotting flesh on your robot.

Edit: I am also not sure if those circuits would be allowed, I'm not sure if it qualifies as a custom circuit.

xtenext 19-01-2010 22:31

Re: Using a body part for a kicker?
 
Ok. Thank you. Both the electrical and mechanical team leaders were gone today, so i couldnt ask them if it would work. :\ that sucks tho, we have no other ideas.

jamie_1930 19-01-2010 22:35

Re: Using a body part for a kicker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 902735)
No. That would not be a COTS item. That doesn't touch on the danger of having rotting flesh on your robot.

Edit: I am also not sure if those circuits would be allowed, I'm not sure if it qualifies as a custom circuit.

What do you mean it's not COTS anyone can get a severed leg. You just need a hacksaw and a willing, or unwilling, participant.

Oh and I suggest getting a belt to bite

MrForbes 19-01-2010 22:36

Re: Using a body part for a kicker?
 
you can only use custom circuits on the sensor (input) side of the cRio, not on the actuator side. Sorry.

Chris is me 19-01-2010 22:49

Re: Using a body part for a kicker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jamie_1930 (Post 902751)
What do you mean it's not COTS anyone can get a severed leg. You just need a hacksaw and a willing, or unwilling, participant.

You can get severed human limbs off-the-shelf? That's sad! :(

BrendanB 19-01-2010 22:52

Re: Using a body part for a kicker?
 
Have you tried using your head in this predicament?;)

jamie_1930 19-01-2010 22:53

Re: Using a body part for a kicker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 902761)
You can get severed human limbs off-the-shelf? That's sad! :(

Chris you just need to know who to call

Bochek 19-01-2010 22:53

Re: Using a body part for a kicker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrendanB (Post 902764)
Have you tried using your head in this predicament?;)

I don' think a jaw has very much kicking force.

TheOtherGuy 19-01-2010 23:20

Re: Using a body part for a kicker?
 
You started fabrication before build season...

EricH 19-01-2010 23:23

Re: Using a body part for a kicker?
 
If you could figure out how to interface a COTS prosthetic leg to a robot, you might have something...

That budget might disappear pretty quickly, though.

Cow Bell Solo 20-01-2010 16:56

Re: Using a body part for a kicker?
 
I would have a feeling the the current running cost for an arm or a leg would cost more than the cost per item limit that they allow too.

GaryVoshol 20-01-2010 16:59

Re: Using a body part for a kicker?
 
It wouldn't be COTS - no one would be able to supply more than 2, so there wouldn't be sufficient stock to qualify as a vendor.

jamie_1930 20-01-2010 17:30

Re: Using a body part for a kicker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol (Post 903278)
It wouldn't be COTS - no one would be able to supply more than 2, so there wouldn't be sufficient stock to qualify as a vendor.

Ok you win

billbo911 20-01-2010 17:39

Re: Using a body part for a kicker?
 
OK, love the humor, now let's see if we can turn this into an actual, usable idea.

Instead of stimulating rotting human muscle, try using "Muscle Wire". This will take a bit of planning, but not impossible. Next you will just need bones and joints. Hmmm, what would YOU use??

=Martin=Taylor= 20-01-2010 18:40

Re: Using a body part for a kicker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jamie_1930 (Post 902766)
Chris you just need to know who to call

You want a leg? I can get you a leg, believe me. There are ways, Dude.

I can get you a leg by 3 O'clock.

Cow Bell Solo 20-01-2010 19:28

Re: Using a body part for a kicker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jamie_1930 (Post 903313)
Ok you win

I still say no, cause one person can just keep grabbing people and there are billions of people out there so the supply is still there

joek 20-01-2010 21:00

Re: Using a body part for a kicker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 902735)
No. That would not be a COTS item. That doesn't touch on the danger of having rotting flesh on your robot.

Edit: I am also not sure if those circuits would be allowed, I'm not sure if it qualifies as a custom circuit.

they are COTS, everyone starts with atleast 1

joek 20-01-2010 21:03

Re: Using a body part for a kicker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol (Post 903278)
It wouldn't be COTS - no one would be able to supply more than 2, so there wouldn't be sufficient stock to qualify as a vendor.

actually, if you go through the right channels( AKA china) you can get tons dirt cheap, and as for custom ciruts, the curcutry is already there

the man 20-01-2010 21:10

Re: Using a body part for a kicker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cow Bell Solo (Post 903276)
I would have a feeling the the current running cost for an arm or a leg would cost more than the cost per item limit that they allow too.

Just put price per cell not as a hole, each cell cost i dont know like $0.00000000001

Dad1279 20-01-2010 21:20

Re: Using a body part for a kicker?
 
Here's a leg, COTS, $20.93
http://www.purespadirect.com/Product...61&click=10549

jamie_1930 20-01-2010 22:02

Re: Using a body part for a kicker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cow Bell Solo (Post 903410)
I still say no, cause one person can just keep grabbing people and there are billions of people out there so the supply is still there

The thing is that the single "vendor" you...um...acquired is out after one leg, because the second would be a different part similar to how right and left window motors are different. Although if we want to settle this once and for all I say we consult the FIRST Q&A. I don't think anyone has asked this yet.

Steven Zehner 20-01-2010 22:15

Re: Using a body part for a kicker?
 
You guys are going in the wrong direction. A kangaroo leg will give you more kick than a human leg. Try contacting the zoo in your area, they sometimes have spare legs to donate. That's how I got one for my Battle-Bot last year.

Travis Hoffman 21-01-2010 04:48

Re: Using a body part for a kicker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dad1279 (Post 903493)

Which "celebrity" was the model for that leg - Rosie O'Donnell? :p

I'm surprised no one has :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: this thread yet.

JesseK 21-01-2010 13:50

Re: Using a body part for a kicker?
 
The real question here is about how hard it would be to convince an inspector that the stimulated muscles are not acting as a solenoid actuator. Any inspectors care to conjecture?

viperred396 21-01-2010 18:20

Re: Using a body part for a kicker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jamie_1930 (Post 902766)
Chris you just need to know who to call

ghostbusters?

haha i think we have a few team members that would be glad to donate some limbs if you need some spare parts:P

spiffyspleen 21-01-2010 19:47

Re: Using a body part for a kicker?
 
I hope this isn't going to be my leg. :ahh:

By the way, you would never get through med school if anyone "saw" this.

Wayne C. 21-01-2010 20:21

Re: Using a body part for a kicker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xtenext (Post 902730)
Is it somehow against the rules to use a severed human leg, stimulated by electricity to kick the ball in this years game? I havnt found any rules in the bible about this, and i already have my leg im going to use. Thanks in advance!

A severed leg may be illegal but you might use one just for kicks

I know of a few firsters who would give their right leg for a good kicker

The Ars-sassin 21-01-2010 20:40

Re: Using a body part for a kicker?
 
hmmm...it would probably be legal to use a severed leg. however, while you're using a severed leg, you might want to also cut the calf muscles short, so you could at the same time, theoretically increase the jumping capabilities of said leg. i wonder what Jigsaw would have to say...

The Megan 2207 22-01-2010 01:29

Re: Using a body part for a kicker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne C. (Post 904281)
A severed leg may be illegal but you might use one just for kicks

Nice pun!

efoote868 22-01-2010 09:10

Re: Using a body part for a kicker?
 
Now, to find a way to mount it on the frame...


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