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Bekah1023bx 28-01-2010 18:57

Spirit Items at Competitions
 
Is there a place on the First website that we can find regulations for spirit items at competitions

Phil Ross 28-01-2010 19:31

Re: Spirit Items at Competitions
 
I am pretty sure that each regional will have their own rules on what is allowed and what isn't...someone correct me if I am wrong.

You should use your common sense about what to bring and not to bring. If you are still unsure ask your RD.

Hope this helps

fordchrist675 28-01-2010 19:35

Re: Spirit Items at Competitions
 
Well I'm pretty sure Thunderstix are no longer allowed, if not FIRST wide at SVR and SAC. Sorry XD

sanddrag 28-01-2010 19:37

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Not sure, but please be respectful to those around you when cheering for your team. I have seen several problems with this in years past. Being excited for your team (or another) is fine, but I've seen several instances where it just becomes obnoxious. Sending your whole team in a parade through the pit area each time you win I think is overboard. Here are the spirit items and actions I personally look down upon, and become very frustrated about:

Loud noises - The competition is loud enough. I don't want your teenage girl screams, your air horns, your thunder sticks, or your whistles right behind my ears. If you must do this, please be all the way in the front, or all the way in the back/top of the arena.

Large things - If your sign, banner, flag, etc is larger than yourself, you are blocking the view of the people behind you. Please be respectful. You are not the only ones trying to watch the game and have a good time.

Standing up - It starts in the front. You stand up to cheer, then everyone behind you has to stand up to see. It's ridiculous. If it's your own team on the field, and it's an exciting pivotal moment, fine, I'd stand too. But to stand up and block the view of those behind you every time you score a point I think is rude.

That being said, small and quiet spirit items are a good. You an decorate your team members. You can hand out giveaways to other teams and judges. You can cheer for your team, on the field side of the arena.

Especially with respect to the Spirit Award, I always like to see teams awarded for the spirit they already have, rather than teams spending loads of money and time on products and routines just to get the award. I come from a team that won a spirit award with 9 members....

GaryVoshol 28-01-2010 19:37

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There's a short list in section 3.17 of the manual of what not to have or do.

As I recall, there was more last year in the Site Info section of the venues. Those aren't up yet for Troy and Detroit.

Bring your train!

DonRotolo 28-01-2010 20:04

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Avoid food items.

Koko Ed 28-01-2010 20:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sanddrag (Post 908842)
Not sure, but please be respectful to those around you when cheering for your team. I have seen several problems with this in years past. Being excited for your team (or another) is fine, but I've seen several instances where it just becomes obnoxious. Sending your whole team in a parade through the pit area each time you win I think is overboard. Here are the spirit items and actions I personally look down upon, and become very frustrated about:

Loud noises - The competition is loud enough. I don't want your teenage girl screams, your air horns, your thunder sticks, or your whistles right behind my ears. If you must do this, please be all the way in the front, or all the way in the back/top of the arena.

Large things - If your sign, banner, flag, etc is larger than yourself, you are blocking the view of the people behind you. Please be respectful. You are not the only ones trying to watch the game and have a good time.

Standing up - It starts in the front. You stand up to cheer, then everyone behind you has to stand up to see. It's ridiculous. If it's your own team on the field, and it's an exciting pivotal moment, fine, I'd stand too. But to stand up and block the view of those behind you every time you score a point I think is rude.

That being said, small and quiet spirit items are a good. You an decorate your team members. You can hand out giveaways to other teams and judges. You can cheer for your team, on the field side of the arena.

Especially with respect to the Spirit Award, I always like to see teams awarded for the spirit they already have, rather than teams spending loads of money and time on products and routines just to get the award. I come from a team that won a spirit award with 9 members....

You would seriously hate FLR. The teams line the field and scream their heads off. I thought the girls on 378 were on fire they were screaming so loud. It gets really intense there in the elims because fo the spirit there.

JaneYoung 29-01-2010 13:45

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Smiles as spirit items -

Smiles are easy to carry and easy to wear - with wrinkle-free resistance.
Smiles are high energy, high impact, low maintenance.
Smiles are not only within the rules, they are out-of-bounds in the places they can make an impact and create change.
Smiles don’t break down or need replacement. Smiles don’t hurt but they are contagious. Smiles leave no team behind - they bring it.
Smiles. From the heart of the team. Easy to share with everyone anytime. Smiles.

Jane

jamie_1930 29-01-2010 14:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 908873)
You would seriously hate FLR. The teams line the field and scream their heads off. I thought the girls on 378 were on fire they were screaming so loud. It gets really intense there in the elims because fo the spirit there.

I second that, last year when we went to the Hartford regional it was a whole different world. There's only enough room in between the stand and field barrier for two people to pass each other, causing panic in many team members that couldn't understand that apparently other teams don't jump, dance, and scream throughout the whole regional. Definitely not a friendly environment for FLR regulars.

Racer26 29-01-2010 14:06

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I've never been to FLR, but it sounds as though its similar to GTR on the spirit front.

We decided we wanted to win spirit at 2009 GTR after watching 781 win it at WAT the week prior. I forget what all we made for spirit items... i remember balloons and big numbers.

Similarly, I know we got yelled at in Flint at KKX for having a bullhorn. Hard to say if that would be allowed at GTR.

JaneYoung 29-01-2010 14:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1075guy (Post 909352)
Similarly, I know we got yelled at in Flint at KKX for having a bullhorn. Hard to say if that would be allowed at GTR.

Well, think about it - if every single person entered the competition venue with a bullhorn, just what would the noise levels be like? If one person is allowed to bring a spirit item, then every person is allowed to bring that spirit item. Common sense plays a role in spirit, as well as knowing the rules and abiding by them.

Racer26 29-01-2010 17:15

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I was reading the rules (specifically Section 3 At The Events) regarding the way things are supposed to go at competitions, and noticed a TON of things that teams do year in and year out that are expressly prohibited by Section 3. Perhaps this is a regional thing, and these rules are more carefully abided by elsewhere, but I doubt it. I think it stems largely from a tendency of teams to read only sections 6 7 and 8 on a regular basis.

GaryVoshol 29-01-2010 17:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1075guy (Post 909478)
I was reading the rules (specifically Section 3 At The Events) regarding the way things are supposed to go at competitions, and noticed a TON of things that teams do year in and year out that are expressly prohibited by Section 3. Perhaps this is a regional thing, and these rules are more carefully abided by elsewhere, but I doubt it. I think it stems largely from a tendency of teams to read only sections 6 7 and 8 on a regular basis.

Another reason is there's no one assigned to police Section 3, unless the venue staff does it or someone complains. Refs and inspectors enforce robot and game rules.

Phoenix Spud 29-01-2010 18:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JaneYoung (Post 909336)
Smiles as spirit items -

Smiles are easy to carry and easy to wear - with wrinkle-free resistance.
Smiles are high energy, high impact, low maintenance.
Smiles are not only within the rules, they are out-of-bounds in the places they can make an impact and create change.
Smiles don’t break down or need replacement. Smiles don’t hurt but they are contagious. Smiles leave no team behind - they bring it.
Smiles. From the heart of the team. Easy to share with everyone anytime. Smiles.

Jane

Jane, that is beautiful.

JaneYoung 29-01-2010 18:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix Spud (Post 909512)
Jane, that is beautiful.

Thank you. It is also true.


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