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peter1626 02-01-2010 06:13 PM

Who is hanging and how?
 
Hi I was just wondering what teams plan on hanging, allowing teams to hang from them, hanging from other robots, or sitting on the platform.

Leav 02-01-2010 06:27 PM

Re: Who is hanging and how?
 
You forgot an option, but I'm not allowed to say which :p

Dad1279 02-01-2010 07:52 PM

Re: Who is hanging and how?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leav (Post 911395)
You forgot an option, but I'm not allowed to say which :p

+1
None of the above, but robot will be elevated.

Chris is me 02-01-2010 09:10 PM

Re: Who is hanging and how?
 
If all things go to plan, 2791 will be hangin'-a-round. A lot of convincing will be needed before grabbing onto someone else's robot rather than the tower, in my personal opinion. The robot will have no means to suspend others.

Techgirl675 02-02-2010 10:45 AM

Re: Who is hanging and how?
 
Yeah, I agree. An option has been forgotten ;)

Chris is me 02-02-2010 10:51 AM

Re: Who is hanging and how?
 
Well, there's ramping other robots either onto the platform or onto yourself as you become ELEVATED, but I think that's included in the "hanging others" option personally.

thefro526 02-02-2010 11:22 AM

Re: Who is hanging and how?
 
We'll be elevating ourselves, hopefully.

And depending on how everything shapes up with our mechanism, we may add the provision for another team to hang off of us. If we do, I doubt it'll ever be used in a Qualification match, and would probably only be used in Elims when a win is absolutely necessary.

Josh Drake 02-02-2010 11:34 AM

Re: Who is hanging and how?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leav (Post 911395)
You forgot an option, but I'm not allowed to say which :p

If you are referring to climbing the vertical pole, that may be included in hanging from the tower.

Bruceb 02-08-2010 04:41 PM

Re: Who is hanging and how?
 
I still find myself wondering what the advantage of hanging by yourself is? It's only 2 points and I think it is likely that if you keep playing offense you will score at least 2 points and if you were playing defense you would probably be giving up at least 2 points given an undefended goal. If you can reliably hang and suspend another robot then I can see where 5 points is worth getting. The difficulty in doing so with a teammate that has never seen your robot or practiced with you or has properly anticipated how to hang from you seems quite high and is likely to limit the success of this operation. Thoughts??
Bruce

Lil' Lavery 02-08-2010 04:44 PM

Re: Who is hanging and how?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruceb (Post 915883)
I still find myself wondering what the advantage of hanging by yourself is? It's only 2 points and I think it is likely that if you keep playing offense you will score at least 2 points and if you were playing defense you would probably be giving up at least 2 points given an undefended goal. If you can reliably hang and suspend another robot then I can see where 5 points is worth getting. The difficulty in doing so with a teammate that has never seen your robot or practiced with you or has properly anticipated how to hang from you seems quite high and is likely to limit the success of this operation. Thoughts??
Bruce

What if your mechanism only takes, say, 5-10 seconds to hang? Can you score 2 goals in 5-10 seconds consistently? I'd be impressed.

waialua359 02-08-2010 05:38 PM

Re: Who is hanging and how?
 
Bruceb,
I agree on the hanging by yourself part.
Its only 2 points.
I suspect that the superior robot is one that can hang and "lift" or "carry" another robot for the 5 pointers.
The lack of rampbots discussed in CD is surprising to me for possible 4 pointers. If robots are being built to climb 45 degree angles, isnt it very possible to climb a 30 degree one?;)

Techgirl675 02-08-2010 07:38 PM

Re: Who is hanging and how?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by waialua359 (Post 915939)
Bruceb,
I agree on the hanging by yourself part.
Its only 2 points.
I suspect that the superior robot is one that can hang and "lift" or "carry" another robot for the 5 pointers.
The lack of rampbots discussed in CD is surprising to me for possible 4 pointers. If robots are being built to climb 45 degree angles, isnt it very possible to climb a 30 degree one?;)

very very true ;)

IndySam 02-08-2010 10:25 PM

Re: Who is hanging and how?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by waialua359 (Post 915939)
Bruceb,
I agree on the hanging by yourself part.
Its only 2 points.
I suspect that the superior robot is one that can hang and "lift" or "carry" another robot for the 5 pointers.
The lack of rampbots discussed in CD is surprising to me for possible 4 pointers. If robots are being built to climb 45 degree angles, isnt it very possible to climb a 30 degree one?;)

but how do you fit a 30 degree ramp in a 84 in circle?

ratdude747 02-08-2010 10:31 PM

Re: Who is hanging and how?
 
we are doing it this way:

1- raise hook via screw driven scissor lift
2- disconnect hook from lift
3- use the uber-winch to pull us up (and anybody hanging from us)

we are using both of the 2 "taboo devices"- scissor lifts and vaccums. but as long as it works and is clearly legal, we'll do it.

Chris is me 02-08-2010 10:44 PM

Re: Who is hanging and how?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ratdude747 (Post 916098)
we are using both of the 2 "taboo devices"- scissor lifts and vaccums. but as long as it works and is clearly legal, we'll do it.

What pushed you toward a scissor lift for your hook delivery system versus other kinds of lifts?


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