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fordchrist675 02-02-2010 21:56

Re: Poll:2010 How many wheel drive are you using?
 
You could do like your delphi team of '07 did with 14 wheel drive.

Wayne Doenges 03-02-2010 11:05

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I want to see a 1 wheel bot, that would be awesome
Team 45 came up with a One Ball drive system a few years ago. Does that count?

thefro526 03-02-2010 12:15

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816 is going with an 8wd this year.

It should work pretty well for us - as long as our driver remembers that getting air crossing the bump is a bad thing...

Tristan Lall 03-02-2010 13:36

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Originally Posted by Wayne Doenges (Post 912504)
Team 45 came up with a One Ball drive system a few years ago. Does that count?

Wasn't it two balls? (The robot was 2003's Mighty Mouse, which was ultimately not entered by 45, in favour of their other 2003 robot, Mighty Auk, which used more conventional treads. Mighty Mouse did see use by another team as a result of some extenuating circumstances.)

Ken Leung 03-02-2010 14:02

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Originally Posted by Joe Johnson (Post 912076)
Team #2849, Ursa Major, (and I) are going with 12 Wheel Drive.

Why? It seemed like a good idea at the time ;-)

Honestly, because I am paranoid of getting stuck on those bumps and 12WD seemed like a good way to prevent that from happening.

Would 8WD been enough? Perhaps, but with each new crossing the bump video that gets uploaded to youtube, I grow more convinced that 12WD has its advantages...

Joe J.

I agree, except in this case I think less is more.

We are going with 4 wheels this year after a demonstration showing the dynamics is much more stable than 8 wheels could ever achieve.

Most 8 wheel drives are counting on very low center of gravity, except I don't think you can count on that if you want to do any sort of hanging, or if the CG is anywhere near 10-12 inches off the ground.

Rion Atkinson 03-02-2010 14:08

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Originally Posted by big1boom (Post 911981)
We are using 4, 4" plaction wheels. The real interesting part is that as it stands now, we are using 32 sprockets, on 12 loops of chain.

Sounds like a swerve to me...

Team 2395 is doing 8wd this year.

Austin2046 03-02-2010 15:00

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i suppose you could say that we're going with 12 wd... all will be powered... and all will stay in contact with the ground all of the time, and that's all i'll say. :p

BrendanB 03-02-2010 15:20

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Originally Posted by Austin2046 (Post 912646)
i suppose you could say that we're going with 12 wd... all will be powered... and all will stay in contact with the ground all of the time, and that's all i'll say. :p

Tank drive me guessing?

4wd for us.

Joe Johnson 03-02-2010 15:32

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Originally Posted by Ken Leung (Post 912614)
<snip>
We are going with 4 wheels this year after a demonstration showing the dynamics is much more stable than 8 wheels could ever achieve.

<snip>

Hey Ken,

Long time, no see (though more my fault than yours).

But... ...there you go again making blanket statements that may come back to haunt you.

Of course it is possible to make an 8WD or even a 12WD that is less stable than a 4WD robot going over the bump, I would just caution you about making statements that beg to be proven wrong.

"There are no black swans" only requires 1 observation to be wrong. "Black swans are rare" is a safer statement that is less likely to put egg on the face of the speaker.

Joe J.


JVN 03-02-2010 16:34

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Team 148's robot will have 14 wheels in the drivetrain.

Seriously.

Ken Leung 03-02-2010 16:42

Re: Poll:2010 How many wheel drive are you using?
 
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Originally Posted by Joe Johnson (Post 912676)
Hey Ken,

Long time, no see (though more my fault than yours).

But... ...there you go again making blanket statements that may come back to haunt you.

Of course it is possible to make an 8WD or even a 12WD that is less stable than a 4WD robot going over the bump, I would just caution you about making statements that beg to be proven wrong.

"There are no black swans" only requires 1 observation to be wrong. "Black swans are rare" is a safer statement that is less likely to put egg on the face of the speaker.

Joe J.


I love blanket statements! It's probably going to come back to haunt me, but what I mean is all the flat 8 wheel drive I've seen is much less stable than the 4 wheel drive chassis I have in mind. Of course it's possible to make a 8 and 12 WD base stable when going over the bump, but that's beyond all the flat 8 WD I've seen (rocker bogey comes to mind, as well as other pivoted or pneumatically actuated chassis).

I was so sure of my gut feelings that I convinced my team to choose 4 over 8. I convinced them there is going to be a lot of fights around the bump, and sticking half your base out is probably not the best way to become the king of the hill.

I think this is going to come back to haunt me, but I tend to live dangerously these days...

Besides, I only chose the simple 4 WD because it is well within our manufacturing capabilities to produce. I would love to go crazy, but that will have to be another year in another game when I've gotten used to working with this team...


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Originally Posted by JVN (Post 912718)
Team 148's robot will have 14 wheels in the drivetrain.

Seriously.

I am starting to be really scared of all the drive train that haven't been posted. Seriously.

Cookiemansayno 03-02-2010 16:50

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a 1 wheeled robot would be epic

AcesJames 03-02-2010 16:50

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176 will be going with a *modified* 6 wheel drive this year. ;)

tomy 03-02-2010 17:17

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we are going with eight wheel im going to be posting videos soon but we have so much power that we were able to drag a 115lbs man

Mr.G 03-02-2010 19:26

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With all those wheels teams are using, I see them having a problem making weight.


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