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jimwick 03-02-2010 08:18

numbers on bumpers
 
This year the numbers are supposed to be 4" high and located on the bumpers. (R15).

How to do this? There is no 4" high flat surface on the bumpers. Paint on the cloth might work (stenciled), but might get rubbed off during energetic action; the cloth is pretty slippery. An applied number would get pulled off.

Right now our best idea is a transparent flexible plastic panel like milk bottle material. The number could be on the back surface and show through, and the panel could be secured with zip ties around the whole bumper.

Any thoughts?

GaryVoshol 03-02-2010 08:24

Re: numbers on bumpers
 
I would consider the plastic overlay to be a "hard part" per rule <R07N>, and thus illegal. But I'm not an inspector.

Many teams have successfully used paint, applique, or embroidery to put numbers on bumper material in the past.

qwertyuiop[]\ 03-02-2010 08:50

Re: numbers on bumpers
 
you could get fabric glue and glue cloth numbers on. also last year my team spraypainted numbers on with stencils and had no problems with abrasion.

Wayne Doenges 03-02-2010 09:09

Re: numbers on bumpers
 
Our team just painted/stencilled our numbers on. They are still there.

Rich Kressly 03-02-2010 09:14

Re: numbers on bumpers
 
We're doing this for the first time as well. We settled on a spray fabric paint after application and collision testing a few different methods. I'd love to have it embroidered, but it's not in our schedule or budget this year. We created our own stencil and painted fabric before it went on the bumper. We just finished painting the red bumper fabric last evening and we'll assemble those bumpers today. All has gone well so far, I'll let you know if anything goes "wrong" from here forward

fsgond 03-02-2010 09:29

Re: numbers on bumpers
 
What we have done in the past is use out t-shirts that have our number on them and sew those on to the bumpers. It is easy to do and we have never had any fall off.

Techgirl675 03-02-2010 09:39

Re: numbers on bumpers
 
We tend to use sharpie. It seems to work without flaw :)

ebarker 03-02-2010 10:46

Re: numbers on bumpers
 
local sign shops / embroidery shops also do heat application of vinyl graphics onto cloth. that is probably what we will do.

CGuenther 03-02-2010 11:22

Re: numbers on bumpers
 
Our team will be using spray paint as well, although our other option was to use iron-on fusable fabric adhesive.

If stability is your main concern, you can find sheets of fabric adhesive at most craft or fabric stores (one main brand is called Heat N' Bond, or it can also be called "fusable webbing"). Sewing the edges of the cut-out numbers in a matching thread in addition to using the fabric adhesive should be more than enough to hold the numbers.

mathking 03-02-2010 12:45

Re: numbers on bumpers
 
We have used fabric paint with stencils (and occasionally just paint with one artistic student's hands) the past three years and have not had any problems with the numbers coming off.

BrendanB 03-02-2010 12:55

Re: numbers on bumpers
 
Fabric paint, works better than expected. Yes, it will start scuffing after a few matches, but it is rare that you will have to repaint in a season. In 2008, we only did a few minor touch ups and that was after 4 competitions. In 2009 no issues at all.

Good luck!

dlavery 03-02-2010 13:55

Re: numbers on bumpers
 
Here are several sources for iron-on athletic jersey number sets that should work perfectly:

- Best Blanks
- Number4Sports
- Spot98

-dave




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Vikesrock 03-02-2010 14:30

Re: numbers on bumpers
 
Thanks Dave, those do look like a great way to apply team numbers to bumpers.

The third link you posted may be the best bet for teams as the first ones may be a bit too tall for as bumper and the second one is pricey as it includes numbers teams will not use and a special coating that is only required if the fabric has already been printed on.

Here are two more sources that look like they might work (although you will end up with a bunch of extra numbers)

http://shop.hobbylobby.com/store/ite...0&ItemId=92682
http://www.shopsei.com/largeImage.cfm?product=881

You may also be able find something like this at your local arts & crafts store such as Michaels or Jo-Ann Fabrics

coldfusion1279 03-02-2010 14:32

Re: numbers on bumpers
 
Our team is using Vinyl numbers (like the ones you put on plexi or lexan) and using Gorilla glue to keep them on.

They do NOT come off. Ha.

Mike Betts 03-02-2010 17:03

Re: numbers on bumpers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimwick (Post 912405)
This year the numbers are supposed to be 4" high and located on the bumpers. (R15).

How to do this? There is no 4" high flat surface on the bumpers. Paint on the cloth might work (stenciled), but might get rubbed off during energetic action; the cloth is pretty slippery. An applied number would get pulled off.

Right now our best idea is a transparent flexible plastic panel like milk bottle material. The number could be on the back surface and show through, and the panel could be secured with zip ties around the whole bumper.

Any thoughts?

Jim,

I'd submit this to the official GDC Q&A. If I had to guess, most inspectors would have heartburn with the covering of the entire bumper with plastic.

A fabric paint stencil is the easiest, fastest and must durable way I have seen to do it.

Regards,

Mike


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