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We tried this and none of the other 3 rsl lights on each of the dsc work.

As one of you suggested I sent one of our mentors home with a DSC that does not blink and he will bring it to another team he knows and have them try it for us. When he returns with it I will let you know weather the other team got it to work or not!

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Is there any way to "force" the light to work with code or something else??

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Umm, that means it's not wired to the Power Distribution Panel.

White Wago on the DSC to a pair of red/black wagos on the Power Distribution Panel - mind that the wires aren't caught on the insulation instead of the bare wire.
Here's a photo

As a side note: We call those three lights to the left of the Wago connector the power status LEDs, that's why they are labeled "bat, 6v, 5v"
The RSL is only the LED to the right of the Wago connector.

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I wish I had been here earlier. In the picture you can clearly see there isn't anything connected to the wago connector for the DSC.

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What picture are you looking at?

There are minor wiring issues in what Dave showed us, but an obviously empty Digital Sidecar power connector is not one of them.

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I was not talking about the Power indicator lights i was taliking about the 1 RSL light on each of the 3 DSC totaling 3 RSL lights that dont work.
AND
It is wired EXACTLY as you show in the picture.

If this was true the 3 power indicator lights would not be on also the entire DSC works EXCEPT for the RSL led and the big orange light.

If you are talking about the small wires, I have previously mentioned that we have corrected this issue by changing the wires to 16 AWG as recomended.

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Sorry I misunderstood your "3 RSL's".
The RSL is automatic as far as we're concerned. Our code cannot control it.

Does your code or the default code work after you download it?
If it doesn't do anything then I'd have to agree with you that there is an issue with the cRIO running that you have to track down. The RSL may be out because there really isn't any robot code.

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Mark and Alan,
I will defer to you two on this. Is there a step in the procedure that then saves the image to the Crio instead of merely loading it? i.e., the image then reverts to a previous saved image when the power is cycled. (like some step is being skipped in this case) I seem to remember something odd about this last year, but as you know, I am not the software expert.

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There are generally two different ways to download our own code to the robot.

One is temporary where it resides only in memory and only as long as your environment, for instance LabVIEW, is running and connected to the cRIO.
When this is stopped the RSL will go out altogether.

The other way is to permanently download the code and that only starts to run after the cRIO is rebooted. The RSL should always be on after any reboot completes.

The symptoms here could happen, for instance, if the user temporarily ran the code from say LabVIEW, then changed User accounts to start the Driver Station. The act of changing user accounts stops all processes.

I'll have to go play with the cRIO to replicate when the RSL is out altogether. My memory may be faulty on when exactly the RSL is out, because it's become an automatic recognition if I see it in person.
The RSL is basically out whenever no code is actually running on the cRIO.

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One reason for us that we weren't able to make this light work was because we didn't have the jumper on the light. You might want to check that.

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Once again the problem is not our BIG ORANGE LIGHT it is the little green LED that is on the DSC the one that blinks in sync with the big orange one! If that little green one does not blink there is no chance that the big orange one is going to blink!!!!

And for the last time we have our jumper on the light, but it does not matter because we are not plugging in the big orange light!

PS Just to let everyone know the DSC worked for another team, however when we hooked it up to our robot it still did not worked:confused:

We appreciate all the help guys!:)

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Boy Peter, that is starting to look like something in the Crio or the cable, if it worked on another robot. Mark might have more insight after he reports on his tests.
Just to be sure, that digital module is in slot 4. It looks like it is from the pictures.
B. The Digitial Sidecar must be connected to a NI 9403 module in Slot 4 of the cRIO-FRC. If it is connected through any other slot, the light will not function properly.

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From a software perspective, the only reliable ways for the RSL to remain off seem to be:

• Having the Safe Mode DIP switch set on the cRIO
• The cRIO failing to boot properly - need a null modem cable and the cRIO Console Out DIP switch set to read on a PC
• Improper cRIO image formatting

I'm just concentrating on things Teams would normally do, or situations they might expect to get into, not catastrophic HW failures or unusual SW corruptions.
At least that's all I got to repeat the problem in the short time I mucked with it. There are probably other ways as well. I'll look some more when I get a chance.

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We'll have to add that to the standard troubleshooting script.

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Well, i think we've managed to eliminate a lot of possibilities thus far. I would recommend trying the following:

1. Check the dip switch Mark mentioned... It's news to me (i've never had a need to pay attention to it), and seems like it could easily account for the problem.
2. Eliminate your teams software. See if that other team would be willing to let you load your software on their cRio, and see if the signal light works. for safety's sake, pull out all the breakers to any motors before doing this (so the robot doesn't do something strange and break itself). This would eliminate your software.
3. Load the other teams software onto your cRio and see if the light still refuses to work (with the same precautions as in 2). This would indicate a hardware/firmware issue.
4. try replacing the digital module and the cable between it and the cRio.

I'm going to put my money that step 1 will fix the problem... the rest is just to give us more information to figure out where the problem exists.