Chief Delphi - Update #8

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I think the wifi thing is a bad rule and because most venues have wifi and because the field runs at 5GHz/802.11n and most people use b/g 2.4GHz.

A better rule would be:
No robots running wireless in the pits, all robots must be tethered.
No 802.11n wifi hotspots
Wifi cards on DriverStation and Dashboard Computer must be disabled
All teams running WIFI in the pits must register with the event desk.

That or FIRST should provide a single 802.11b/g wifi hotspot for teams for scouting.

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Originally Posted by Alex Cormier (Post 914390)

We are now allowed to use two way radios?

I expect them to fix that in another update.

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Originally Posted by PaW (Post 914848)

That's too bad, but understandable. It's going to be hard to enforce.

Not hard to enforce. Devices are available to do this.

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Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 914877)

2. They talk about bonuses that the referees give to teams, I expect these are points from the finale hanging.

What does a bonus of 1 mean? Bonus points are either 2 or 3.

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3. Goal penalties are seperated from ref penalties (I would prefer them to spell out some of the words instead of doing this).

The goal penalties are done automagically via DOGMA and the counter on the ball return.

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4. Ref penalties go into double digits and goal penalties go into triple digits.

Goal penalties can mount up. If a ball should be dropped and "lost", never returned through the ball return system, you'd get a penalty every two seconds for the rest of the match. Lose two balls during auto mode, and that's in the neighborhood of 120 penalties! Don't fumble the balls, boys and girls!

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5. I believe final score for the example should be 0 (-1) for red and 5 for blue.

This has to be just a format example, not a real accounting. First as noted, how many points were the bonuses? You can surmise 2 points each in this case, as it is impossible to have a SUSPENDED robbot without there also being an ELEVATED robot. But look at the penalties. It's impossible to have 2 goal penalties without having any goals scored.

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Originally Posted by IndySam (Post 914928)

Not hard to enforce. Devices are available to do this.

At Atlanta last year we got to play with a device that was able to localize a "rogue" wifi node so that folks could go talk to them, and then optionally shut it down remotely. Very pretty toy.