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Peter Matteson 12-02-2010 10:08

Re: Best of the Best
 
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Originally Posted by coldfusion1279 (Post 917900)
I actually think that this year we will see teams in the 2000's emerge as power house teams. The low 2000's have a couple years experience now. The game seems very heavy on strategy with the new rankings, and strategy is something anyone can be good at, given enough time to study.

Last year we had a rookie on Einstien, so it's not really out of the question that a 2000's team can be a powerhouse.

Chris is me 12-02-2010 10:21

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I don't really see what we have to go on for this thread other than listing the teams everyone knows well due to their past success that will likely lead them to future similar success.

Though I do wonder what elements of success used by veteran teams in other games will be applied to this one. Will 25 have their trademark drivetrain? Will 233 have a variant on their ubiquitous telescoping jointed arm? Will 1771 really suck? (As in air, like in 2008)

I think if there's a year for a 2000 level team to dominate, it's this one. I think the distribution of regional wins this year between the three "blocks" (0000 / 1000 / 2000) will be pretty much even.

Racer26 12-02-2010 10:25

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I will say that our 2010 robot has very few completely "new" concepts on it. It is comprised almost entirely of variants of systems we've built and learned from since 2003.

That being said, some of the systems have had some pretty cool updates.

Taxi Quinn 12-02-2010 10:25

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Originally Posted by thatoneguy23 (Post 917932)
Jordan, Confidence is good, but we are not ensured going to the top.
You never know how it will turn out. Tone it down a little.

Hey. You calm down. He is trying to get pumped. It sounds like your talking to someone who has never been in a frc. You are a first year, you dont understand that the enviroment is like chuckie cheeses. There is a sense of competitivity but it is mostly people having fun with strangers and not being ashamed. The seriousness is only for the teams who are currently competeing and building. Loosen up and stop acting like we are trying to win a million dollars. We are not in it to win it. We are in it to get the experiance, have fun, and meet new people. The compitition is just extra. So get some team spirit and dont hold it back, and never tell someone else to "Tone it down alittle", especially if they are on your own team.

thefro526 12-02-2010 10:27

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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 918495)

Will 25 have their trademark drivetrain? Will 233 have a variant on their ubiquitous telescoping jointed arm?

It's pretty funny that you brought these teams up, I was actually asking those questions to myself the other day.

In 25's case, I totally see them doing extremely well. I really would like to see them bring back a level of Dominance like they had in 2006.

And I really hope that 233's robot has some sort of telescoping arm on it... And I hope they bring the Pink back too.

IBdrummer 12-02-2010 10:38

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Originally Posted by thefro526 (Post 918503)
It's pretty funny that you brought these teams up, I was actually asking those questions to myself the other day.

In 25's case, I totally see them doing extremely well. I really would like to see them bring back a level of Dominance like they had in 2006.

And I really hope that 233's robot has some sort of telescoping arm on it... And I hope they bring the Pink back too.

I want them to bring pink back too...I'm hoping the lack of pink last year jinxed us ;) (I'm in college...so I don't know for sure whether the robot will be pink)

Jordan2389Diaz 18-02-2010 10:27

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Originally Posted by thatoneguy23 (Post 917932)
Jordan, Confidence is good, but we are not ensured going to the top.
You never know how it will turn out. Tone it down a little.

There is nothing wrong in believing in oneself because it be to be optimistic than be a pessimist and believe our team is going to lose.

Chris is me 18-02-2010 13:14

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Originally Posted by Jordan2389Diaz (Post 922865)
There is nothing wrong in believing in oneself because it be to be optimistic than be a pessimist and believe our team is going to lose.

At the risk of jutting in to what should probably be a private team discussion...

There's a difference between confidence and cockiness. Being satisfied and optimistic is acceptable and probably encouraged, while insisting your team is the best and will destroy the competition can come off as delusional or arrogant. There's a line, and while I don't mean to say that anyone's crossed it (no, seriously, I don't), it's something to consider when making comments in public spaces.

Be wary of the dangers of blind confidence as well. If you believe you are the best, you may miss opportunities for improvement.

On that note, 2791 is totally going to be better than every other robot for sure this year! ;)

BrendanB 18-02-2010 13:19

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Originally Posted by IBdrummer (Post 918514)
I want them to bring pink back too...I'm hoping the lack of pink last year jinxed us ;) (I'm in college...so I don't know for sure whether the robot will be pink)

Ummmm it better be PINK;)

Nigel 18-02-2010 13:21

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...how bout a lil love for the 3000 teams? ;)

Daniel_LaFleur 18-02-2010 13:22

Re: Best of the Best
 
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Originally Posted by IBdrummer (Post 918514)
I want them to bring pink back too...I'm hoping the lack of pink last year jinxed us ;) (I'm in college...so I don't know for sure whether the robot will be pink)

I'll be disappointed if 233 isn't Pink and MOE isn't Green

Nevets Amstier 18-02-2010 13:56

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Every year there is always a team (however old or new the team is) that surprises everyone (for better or for worse)...

good luck teams! do your scouting!!!:D

EricH 18-02-2010 14:10

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Originally Posted by Nigel (Post 923014)
...how bout a lil love for the 3000 teams? ;)

Mostly, they're rookies. There have been standout rookies, to be sure--1902 was one win shy of making Einstein in 2006 and made it the next year; 2056 has yet to lose a regional they've entered; 2753 made Einstein after winning New Jersey in 2009. However, my guess is that most of the 3000 teams are going not going to be as good as the 2000s or the 1000s. Yet. (And this is coming from one of the Fantasy FIRST players who snapped up rookies quickly.)

Do your best, and maybe we'll see an all-rookie alliance on Einstein this year... That'll be a surprise.

Racer26 18-02-2010 14:15

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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 923061)
Mostly, they're rookies. There have been standout rookies, to be sure--1902 was one win shy of making Einstein in 2006 and made it the next year; 2056 has yet to lose a regional they've entered; 2753 made Einstein after winning New Jersey in 2009. However, my guess is that most of the 3000 teams are going not going to be as good as the 2000s or the 1000s. Yet. (And this is coming from one of the Fantasy FIRST players who snapped up rookies quickly.)

Do your best, and maybe we'll see an all-rookie alliance on Einstein this year... That'll be a surprise.

2056 also won IRI 2007. Winning IRI in your rookie year is almost unheard of.

DarkFlame145 18-02-2010 14:34

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At the end of the season, it really doesn't matter who was great and who wasn't. All that matters is that everyone had fun, did their best, and learned something new. Having a poor season isn't always a bad thing anyways. In 2007 when I was on 145 we had a bad season, only had a rolling chassis and didn't get picked for eliminations (only the 2nd time that happened up till then). But looking back at our mistakes, such as poorly using build time, low team spirit, and settling on a design 5 times. We made a better robot (with about a week to play with, break, improve and fix), worked on team spirit, even tried to make a new team image with new shirts, got picked by the 1st seed alliance. No 145 did not win FLR in 2008, but everyone had a lot of fun.


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