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Vikesrock 14-02-2010 11:37

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Originally Posted by dodar (Post 919861)
pretty sure the GDC made that illegal

Rule or Q&A link?

dodar 14-02-2010 11:40

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http://usfirst.org/uploadedFiles/Rob...Update%202.pdf

R19

Vikesrock 14-02-2010 11:47

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That rule only limits the intrusion of the ball to 3" inside a mechanism above the bumper zone.

A ramp has 0" of intrusion. You could also have a funnel of some sort with 3" tall sidewalls, that would be 3" of intrusion.

terryo 14-02-2010 11:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 919866)
That rule only limits the intrusion of the ball to 3" inside a mechanism above the bumper zone.

A ramp has 0" of intrusion. You could also have a funnel of some sort with 3" tall sidewalls, that would be 3" of intrusion.

I'm with Vikesrock on this one. As long as the ball bounces off without 'depressing' the deflecting mechanism/ramp 3", your golden.:cool:

dodar 14-02-2010 11:53

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id have to disagree, id have to say that there is like walls around your robot at 3" and if at any point a ball comes in contact with your robot within those walls, then that should be the 3" rule penalty

Brandon Holley 14-02-2010 11:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dodar (Post 919861)
pretty sure the GDC made that illegal

It's been clarified here already, it's perfectly legal. Also, if your "pretty sure" why don't you actually look it up before posting??

dodar 14-02-2010 11:55

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pretty sure is a confident statement if i didnt know, i would have said i think

DonRotolo 14-02-2010 11:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 919866)
That rule only limits the intrusion of the ball to 3" inside a mechanism above the bumper zone.

Here is <R19> in its entirety:
Quote:

<R19> ROBOTS must be designed so that in normal operation BALLS cannot extend more than 3 inches inside
a) the FRAME PERIMETER below the level of the BUMPER ZONE (see Figure 8-5),
b) a MECHANISM or feature designed or used to deflect BALLS in a controlled manner that is above the level of the BUMPER ZONE.
Indeed, Vikesrock's interpretation is what I get as well.

dodar 14-02-2010 12:03

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ok, so then let me see if i am understanding you guys correctly, the 3" rule only applys to the mechanisms or the robot?

Vikesrock 14-02-2010 13:27

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Originally Posted by dodar (Post 919882)
ok, so then let me see if i am understanding you guys correctly, the 3" rule only applys to the mechanisms or the robot?

Above the Bumper Zone, yes, that is correct. That part is covered by <R19-B>.

Below the Bumper Zone the ball may only intrude 3" inside the Frame Perimeter as detailed in <R19-A>.

sdcantrell56 14-02-2010 20:09

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How about some details on those wheels? Are those the upgraded sheet wheels you guys were showing off in 2008?

O'Sancheski 14-02-2010 20:50

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are you guys planning to have kickers on all sides or is that for ground clearance

Allison 14-02-2010 21:06

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Originally Posted by sdcantrell56 (Post 920115)
How about some details on those wheels? Are those the upgraded sheet wheels you guys were showing off in 2008?

I was wondered how long it would take someone to catch my title about the wheels.

Hopefully our students will be assembling some tomorrow and I can get a good picture of one. They are similar to the design that was created in 2008 but 8 inches and have a biohazard symbol as the lightening pattern.

Free Willy 14-02-2010 22:32

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It looks like the structure could be used to right the position of the robot if it flips over when going over the bump

Taylor 15-02-2010 08:46

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