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Allison 13-02-2010 23:05

pic: 1024 Chassis with Biohazard Wheel
 

Rion Atkinson 13-02-2010 23:07

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Well this looks strangely familiar...

I should know. I copied it to make this.

dodar 13-02-2010 23:08

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from the looks, looks like a typical chassis for 1024 but it does seem like you wont be very willing to go over the bump

Tanner 13-02-2010 23:22

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I wonder why you'd want a robot so tall unless you plan to climb the tower and not go over any bumps.

-Tanner

Nuttyman54 13-02-2010 23:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanner (Post 919701)
I wonder why you'd want a robot so tall unless you plan to climb the tower and not go over any bumps.

-Tanner

No reason a tall robot can't go over a bump, as long as it keeps the CG low enough. The tall clearance indicates to me that they're very much intending to go over the bump.

dodar 13-02-2010 23:32

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well if i remember your robots pic from this year, it was also tall...190 & 1024 collaboration??? lol

Chris is me 13-02-2010 23:53

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Cool chassis! How do you plan on overcoming turning scrub?

dodar 13-02-2010 23:55

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i doubt this but is this as far as you guys are this far into build?

meebee 13-02-2010 23:59

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How is the turning with those wheels?

edit: beat me to it Chris_is_me!

Jazonk 14-02-2010 00:03

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Maybe a blocking system of some kind? They will be able to block shots if there is a panel covering the space between the bars.

Chris is me 14-02-2010 00:10

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I think the side is like a half roll cage, so if they tip forward, you can push under it and gain leverage to right them?

Or, much more likely, "just" a hanging arm.

Allison 14-02-2010 09:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dodar (Post 919726)
i doubt this but is this as far as you guys are this far into build?

this was taken last weekend.

Quote:

Originally Posted by meebee (Post 919728)
How is the turning with those wheels?

edit: beat me to it Chris_is_me!

Turning is overrated

Brandon Holley 14-02-2010 10:40

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Bouncing balls back towards your zone off
the tower? That'd be my best guess.

Galum 14-02-2010 11:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon Holley (Post 919847)
Bouncing balls back towards your zone off
the tower? That'd be my best guess.

As well as mine. Can't wait to see what else you guys have in store :)

dodar 14-02-2010 11:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon Holley (Post 919847)
Bouncing balls back towards your zone off
the tower? That'd be my best guess.

pretty sure the GDC made that illegal

Vikesrock 14-02-2010 11:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dodar (Post 919861)
pretty sure the GDC made that illegal

Rule or Q&A link?

dodar 14-02-2010 11:40

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http://usfirst.org/uploadedFiles/Rob...Update%202.pdf

R19

Vikesrock 14-02-2010 11:47

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That rule only limits the intrusion of the ball to 3" inside a mechanism above the bumper zone.

A ramp has 0" of intrusion. You could also have a funnel of some sort with 3" tall sidewalls, that would be 3" of intrusion.

terryo 14-02-2010 11:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 919866)
That rule only limits the intrusion of the ball to 3" inside a mechanism above the bumper zone.

A ramp has 0" of intrusion. You could also have a funnel of some sort with 3" tall sidewalls, that would be 3" of intrusion.

I'm with Vikesrock on this one. As long as the ball bounces off without 'depressing' the deflecting mechanism/ramp 3", your golden.:cool:

dodar 14-02-2010 11:53

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id have to disagree, id have to say that there is like walls around your robot at 3" and if at any point a ball comes in contact with your robot within those walls, then that should be the 3" rule penalty

Brandon Holley 14-02-2010 11:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dodar (Post 919861)
pretty sure the GDC made that illegal

It's been clarified here already, it's perfectly legal. Also, if your "pretty sure" why don't you actually look it up before posting??

dodar 14-02-2010 11:55

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pretty sure is a confident statement if i didnt know, i would have said i think

DonRotolo 14-02-2010 11:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 919866)
That rule only limits the intrusion of the ball to 3" inside a mechanism above the bumper zone.

Here is <R19> in its entirety:
Quote:

<R19> ROBOTS must be designed so that in normal operation BALLS cannot extend more than 3 inches inside
a) the FRAME PERIMETER below the level of the BUMPER ZONE (see Figure 8-5),
b) a MECHANISM or feature designed or used to deflect BALLS in a controlled manner that is above the level of the BUMPER ZONE.
Indeed, Vikesrock's interpretation is what I get as well.

dodar 14-02-2010 12:03

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ok, so then let me see if i am understanding you guys correctly, the 3" rule only applys to the mechanisms or the robot?

Vikesrock 14-02-2010 13:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dodar (Post 919882)
ok, so then let me see if i am understanding you guys correctly, the 3" rule only applys to the mechanisms or the robot?

Above the Bumper Zone, yes, that is correct. That part is covered by <R19-B>.

Below the Bumper Zone the ball may only intrude 3" inside the Frame Perimeter as detailed in <R19-A>.

sdcantrell56 14-02-2010 20:09

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How about some details on those wheels? Are those the upgraded sheet wheels you guys were showing off in 2008?

O'Sancheski 14-02-2010 20:50

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are you guys planning to have kickers on all sides or is that for ground clearance

Allison 14-02-2010 21:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sdcantrell56 (Post 920115)
How about some details on those wheels? Are those the upgraded sheet wheels you guys were showing off in 2008?

I was wondered how long it would take someone to catch my title about the wheels.

Hopefully our students will be assembling some tomorrow and I can get a good picture of one. They are similar to the design that was created in 2008 but 8 inches and have a biohazard symbol as the lightening pattern.

Free Willy 14-02-2010 22:32

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It looks like the structure could be used to right the position of the robot if it flips over when going over the bump

Taylor 15-02-2010 08:46

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sdcantrell56 15-02-2010 15:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Allison (Post 920161)
I was wondered how long it would take someone to catch my title about the wheels.

Hopefully our students will be assembling some tomorrow and I can get a good picture of one. They are similar to the design that was created in 2008 but 8 inches and have a biohazard symbol as the lightening pattern.

Id love to see pictures when you get them assembled. Also are you planning on marketing the wheels anytime soon?

Allison 15-02-2010 18:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sdcantrell56 (Post 920557)
Id love to see pictures when you get them assembled. Also are you planning on marketing the wheels anytime soon?

Here is one of our traction wheels. Right now we don't have any plans on marketing them but maybe in the future if the right opportunity arises.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/34843?


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